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Date: Fri Apr 10 07:01:35 GMT+01:00 1998
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MATCH DAY! Liverpool Old Trafford k.off 17.00 Uk
Hoping for a great match and a new triumph!
Good luck to  REDS all over the world.
your editor Barry Leeming

                     Todays Pic: NEW 98 Team Strip!
This Issue:
1. Stam/Injury news
2. Jaap Stam for United !!!????
3. Ince Pleads To Reds Fans
4. Roma Swoop For Becks (PA)
5. Warren Barton on Stam (PA)
6. Ince claims "I was the victim of a United vendetta"
7. Pally on Giggs


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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 14:32:56 -0700
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From: J Callaghan  (by way of RED-DEVILS Mailing List )
Subject: Stam/Injury news


Stam deal setback - hopes still alive!  
Manchester United's hopes of signing Dutch central defender Jaap Stam
appear to have receded following a minor breakdown in talks between
officials from both clubs. 

Edwards: breakdown 
United chairman Martin Edwards flew out to Eindhoven earlier today with a
view to completing a 12m deal for Stam, but after forty-five minutes of
negotiations, PSV officials made it clear that they do not wish to part
company with one of the most sought after players in the world.
The Old Trafford chief had hoped to wrap up a deal estimated in total at
around 20m, which, on top of a massive transfer fee, would have netted
Stam 1m-a-year over a five-year contract, resulting in a further
investment of 8m gross. 
Stam, one of the most sought after players in the world, has already
confirmed that he is quitting his current club PSV Eindhoven for the
Premiership, but it is increasingly apparent that United will have to break
the bank in order to sign him.
Stam was recently voted Holland's footballer of the year, and Johan Cruyff
who presented him with the award identified him as the one player in the
world he would love to have in his side.
He is set to play a key role for Holland in the World Cup in the summer,
and Bobby Robson who takes over as the new coach of PSV next season said:
"He's the best defender Holland and PSV have. He is extremely quick and
strong and is also very good in the air.
"I'd like very much to keep him, but it seems it isn't possible."

Schmeichel gets Liverpool all-clear  

Any fears Alex Ferguson may have had regarding Peter Schmeichel possibly
missing Manchester United's Good Friday clash against Liverpool were
dismissed today with confirmation that the big Dane will be available for
The encouraging news for the United boss is that Schmeichel has beaten an
injury scare to stay in the reckoning for United's all-important clash with
Liverpool at Old Trafford.
Doubts were raised when Schmeichel was seen limping at the end of United's
Monday night match against Blackburn, as well as kicking with his left foot
instead of his right, but Ferguson insisted:
"I've got no worries over him for Friday. Peter had some stiffness late on
at Blackburn. But he trained well and is okay."

Legend set for Old Trafford  

Elsewhere, football legend Pele will be at Old Trafford for the Good Friday
clash in preparation for the official opening of United's new museum.
The Brazilian will be introduced to the Old Trafford faithful before the
Liverpool clash and interviewed at half time on the pitch.
On Saturday he will return to Old Trafford for the ceremonial opening at a
gala dinner.

Reserves rained off  

The reserves were due in action last night, but their home game with
Birmingham City was postponed because of a waterlogged pitch.
United's reserves are currently second in the Pontins League Premier Division.

Youth Cup defeat  

United were beaten 4-3 by Tranmere in a thrilling Lancashire FA Youth Cup
semi-final at Prenton Park last night.
Andy Moran headed Tranmere into the final by scoring the winner in extra=

A Manchester United is for life, not just for christmas.

If tomorrow was today, it would be yesterday.

From: Support PC2 SrwaniHQPg 
To: barry@www.red11.org

Subject: Jaap Stam for United !!!????


MANCHESTER United chairman Martin Edwards flies into Eindhoven today to
complete a 12million deal for centre-half Jaap Stam, a world record
transfer fee for a defender. 

The Old Trafford chairman intends to tie up a near 20million package
deal for the player Johan Cruyff predicted would become the most
formidable central defender in the World Cup Finals in France. On top of
the massive transfer fee, Stam will command 1million-a-year net over a
five-year contract, which is a further investment of 8million gross. 

Stam has already announced that he is quitting PSV Eindhoven for the

Liverpool, Arsenal and United immediately led the chase after Chelsea
dropped out following Ruud Gullit's departure from Stamford Bridge. 

Stam is viewed as the long term replacement for injury- plagued Gary
Pallister, but in Holland he is rated world class and the key to any
Dutch success at France 98. He was voted Player of the Year in Holland
last month. Cruyff handed over the trophy and nominated Stam as the
player he would most want in any team. 

Marc Overmars and Dennis Bergkamp had already recommended Stam to their
manager, Arsene Wenger. Liverpool were also desperate to bring Stam to
Anfield. But only Manchester United can write out such an astonishing
cheque for a stopper, not a striker. 

Alex Ferguson does not want to be caught out again. United's supposedly
formidable squad looked somewhat of a myth when Ferguson was forced to
field two injured players in the Champions' League quarter-final home
leg against Monaco. 

Ferguson needs a much stronger squad to have any chance of winning the
European Cup. And Fergie wants to ensure that Stam is tied up as a
United player before his value soars even higher in France. 

PSV have already lost coach Dick Advocaat to Glasgow Rangers and the
Dutchman wants to take Stam to Ibrox. But Stam has made up his mind he
wants to help United win the Champions' League next season. 

PSV originally valued Stam at 15million to emphasise how much they
wanted to keep him. Stam's valuation emphasises the soaring cost of
players still under contract - despite so many foreign stars being
available on free transfers under the Bosman ruling. 

Stam will clearly be Ferguson's gain and Bobby Robson's loss. The former
England manager is returning to PSV from Barcelona next season and he
confirmed last night: "I'm disappointed, but it seems that Stam won't be
at the club when I take over next season. He's the best defender Holland
and PSV have. He is extremely quick and strong and is also very good in
the air. I'd like very much to keep him, but it seems it isn't

Nottingham Forest's Dutch international striker Pierre van Hooijdonk
describes Stam as "the quickest defender I have seen." 

Hooijdonk adds: "He is also very, very powerful and is a good header of
the ball." 

Stam has made it clear he wants to leave PSV this summer, saying: "I'll
definitely be gone at the end of the season." 

Stam has followed English football since boyhood. He said recently:
"Manchester United have always been the club I wanted to join and now it
looks like it could become a reality. Everyone knows what my plans are
and I am assuming that PSV will enter into serious negotiations." 

Stam became a professional only six years ago, but has made a rapid rise
to prominence in Dutch football. 

He started out as a midfielder with the non-league outfit Kampen. In
1992 he joined the pro club Zwolle and one year later he moved to
Luewarden. He was singed by one of Holland's biggest teams, Willem II,
for a club record 500,000 in 1995, but played only 19 times before he
was snapped up by PSV. 

That same season he forced his way into the Dutch national team. He was
in the squad which came to England for Euro 96, but did not play. 

Meanwhile, United go into tomorrow's showdown with Liverpool bolstered
by the news that goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel has survived an injury
scare - leaving boss Fergie with a fighting fit squad. 

United's man mountain skipper limped off during Monday's stirring 3-1
win at Blackburn with fears that he had damaged a hamstring. But
Ferguson says: "Peter has trained well and I have no worries for him

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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:12:49 -0700
To: barry@www.red11.org
From: "Steve-Eccles Reds."  (by way of RED-DEVILS Mailing List )
Subject: Ince Pleads To Reds Fans

>From the Manchester Evening News,

Ince Pleads To Reds Fans 
By Stuart Mathieson 

 MANCHESTER United old boy Paul Ince is hoping his Old Trafford return on
Friday with Liverpool is marked with a show of respect.

The Reds' 7m export to Inter Milan in the summer of '95 is coming back
with the Anfielders for his first competitive match against United and is
also steeling himself for a battle royal with his successor Nicky Butt.

Ince's controversial switch to Italy led to two years in Serie A but United
didn't take up the option last summer to bring him back to Old Trafford.

And on his return, the England midfielder went to rivals Liverpool.

``I was given a good reception by the United fans when I came back for a
pre-season friendly with Inter but obviously it is different returning in a
Liverpool shirt,'' says Ince.

``Whenever you leave a club and then come back you always get stick. I
wasn't playing when United came to Anfield in December and I got a bit of
stick then. But it was only really banter and not anything malicious.

``As long as it is on those lines then I am more than happy to go back.

``I was part of the United team that brought the title back to Old Trafford
after such a long time in '93 and hopefully the fans will respect that. I
certainly respect how they treated me at Old Trafford.''

United boss Alex Ferguson unloaded Ince to Serie A in order to bring on
Nicky Butt.

``I am more than pleased that Nicky has come on and done very well,'' says

``He took my place at United and now he's after my England place as well! I
am looking forward to the confrontation. It should be a good battle.

``We believe on our day we are as good as Manchester United. Liverpool do
still have a chance of winning the championship".

Anyone who plays at Old Trafford wearing a Liverpool shirt deserves to take
plenty of stick,ex United great or not.How can anyone who thinks that Ince
and Redknapp is the best midfield pairing in Europe be respected?To all the
Reds who will be at the game,give it to the scouse bastards,good style.

Steve-Eccles Reds
ICQ  9540478

Subject:  Roma Swoop For Becks (PA)

By Daily Mirror Staff

Roma last night targeted David Beckham for a sensational 12million summer

The Italian club's free-spending president Franco Censi has been alerted to
the fact that 22-year-old Beckham has still to sign a new contract tying him
to Manchester United for the next five years.

He knows, too, that Beckham has also hinted in the past that he would one
day love to play in Italy.

And with the England midfielder and Victoria Adams set to marry next year,
the lira-billionaire can offer the kind of tax haven Posh Spice's pop star
lifestyle demands.

Beckham, currently on 12,000-a-week, is being offered a basic 1m-a-year to
commit himself to United along with the rest of Old Trafford's super six -
Gary and Phil Neville, Ryan Giggs, Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes.

But that 20,000-a-week would be blown out of the water by Roma as they
search for the big-name playmaker to win them the Serie A title.

Censi has made a bulging budget available that is flexible enough to offer
Beckham untold riches of 35,000-a-week and beyond.

Money is clearly no object after spending 20m last year rebuilding Roma's
multi-national squad.

But Censi has been bitterly disappointed by a pride-damaging season.

Roma currently lie in fourth place in Serie A, 11 points adrift of Juventus
and with no chance of qualifying for the Champions' League.

More frustrating than that is the fact that rivals Lazio are above them and
lording it in the Italian capital.

Censi wants that trend reversed next year - or the head of coach Zdenek
Zeman will roll.

So between them they have drawn up a superstar shopping list with Beckham at
No 1.

Liverpool and England star Steve McManaman has also been earmarked along
with Manchester City's Georgi Kinkladze, whose move to Ajax has been

Sources in Italy claim that Roma have already made approaches to United
asking about Beckham's availability.

The two Nevilles have just agreed to new seven-year deals and Giggs has
accepted a bumper five-year contract.

But United are currently in negotiations with Beckham, and that's why Roma
believe they still have a chance of snatching the England star before he
puts pen to paper.

Inter Milan would be interested, too, if there was a chance of Beckham
becoming available.

But United are confident that they can secure his unique skills well into
the next century and believe he will sign on the dotted line along with
Scholes and Butt to guarantee those 1m-a-year pay packets.

It would break boss Alex Ferguson's heart to lose any of the players he's
built into undisputed champions. But he admits: "Any player can move these
days. You are never safe."

 PA Sporting Life

Subject:  Warren Barton on Stam (PA)


Dutch side PSV Eindhoven want up to 15million for centre-half Jaap Stam -
and Newcastle star Warren Barton believes he may be worth the money.

Manchester United are considering breaking the world transfer record for a
defender to sign Stam, but Barton believes stoppers are just as valuable as
attackers in today's game.

Barton became Britain's costliest defender in June 1995 when he signed for
Newcastle from Wimbledon for 4million, and remained so until Slaven Bilic
joined Everton last year for 500,000 more.

A Manchester United official has flown to Holland to negotiate with PSV, and
the asking price of 15million would nearly double the current world record
for a defender of 8.5million for Roberto Rios from Real Betis to Atletico
Bilbao last year.

Barton said: "Each player's value is different. When Tim Flowers cost
Blackburn 2million from Southampton, people said you shouldn't pay that
sort of money for a goalkeeper.

"But look at Peter Schmeichel - is he worth the same as Andy Cole? Would you
have said Franz Beckenbauer was worth as much as Gerd Muller? The answer
must be 'yes' on both counts.

"If a club are willing to pay that sort of money on a player then every
position's equally important.

"Strikers may be seen as a bit more special because they can score goals and
the pressure's on them to do it. Players like Roberto Carlos are world-class
but obviously strikers will get the publicity and praise because their goals
win matches.

"At the end of the day, there will always be that difference in stature
because of what they do.

"To be fair to them, I know the pressure forwards are under and they deserve
the praise when it comes.

"But then you can say a goalkeeper and defenders can save you a game. It's
just how the world is.

"With people like Stam and Slaven Bilic it just shows you how things are
changing with strikers and defenders. It's one up for defenders at the

 PA Sporting Life

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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:16:23 -0700
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From: J Callaghan  

Subject: Ince claims "I was the victim of a United vendetta"

Ince: I was the victim of a United vendetta

Friday, April 10, 1998 

Ken Lawrence on the bitter backdrop to today's clash

Paul Ince faces his old Manchester United team-mates today, claiming he was
forced out of Old Trafford and stabbed in the back.

The Liverpool captain feels he was treated like a 'piece of meat' over his
7million move to Inter Milan three years ago and only left United because
he had become the victim of a secret vendetta.

Ince's astonishing allegations follow the revelation in Alex Ferguson's
most recent book that the England midfielder had engineered his own
departure to Italy.

While the player, who returned to the Premiership from Serie A for 6m last
summer, dismisses such claims as 'rubbish', he absolves the United manager
of any blame.

Instead, Ince points the finger at influences behind closed doors for
conducting a campaign of disinformation against him.

He believes United wanted to cash in on the offer from Italy and, to head
off any fan rebellion over his departure at a time when Mark Hughes and
Andrei Kanchelskis also left the club, they tried to make it look as though
Ince had instigated the move.

As Ince prepared to lead Liverpool in the game he admits will make or break
his club's chances of reaching next season's Champions League, he said: 'I
have the utmost respect for Alex Ferguson. I think he is a great, great
manager and there is no animosity between us. But what went on before I
left wasn't down to Fergie. It was other people in the club whose names I
won't mention - people behind the scenes sticking the knife in.

'United had the offer from Inter and wanted to take it because they had Roy
Keane there and Nicky Butt coming through. I never wanted to leave but they
were getting a lot of money and I don't think they felt they could turn it

'Did I feel like a piece of meat? Yes. It is the first time I have ever
felt like that, yet look what I had given the club. They went 26 years
without winning the championship. I'm not saying I did it on my own but I
am proud of what I achieved there and I did my bit in helping the club move
forward. Yet, you are just a bit of meat when your shelf life is up.'

Though Ince only sat on the bench when United visited Anfield earlier this
season, he was still ridiculed by his former club's fans, who had
worshipped him for six years.

'The worst thing for me about leaving United was the way it all ended,' he
added. 'That was the most upsetting thing of all because some people said
they believed me while some were saying they didn't believe I wanted to stay.

'I knew the situation and I know the club knew the situation. What they
were saying wasn't right.

'If I'd stayed I would have ended up fighting Keane and Butt for a place
and that would have been tough but I still like to think I'm playing well
enough to be compared with them.'

Ince's Anfield midfield colleague Jamie Redknapp is ready to sign a
lucrative contract, estimated to be worth 1m a year, that will secure his
services for at least a further five years.

The talented 24-year-old is one of a number of highly-valued players that
the Anfield club are keen to tie up long term so as to avoid the danger of
losing them on free transfers under the Bosman ruling. 

Have your say on the latest Liverpool 

A Manchester United is for life, not just for christmas.

If tomorrow was today, it would be yesterday.

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From: J Callaghan 
Subject:     Pally on Giggs

Tough Guy Giggs
The Gary Pallister Column

Everyone loves fighter Ryan Giggs
 WHEN I first joined United, I stayed in an hotel and sometimes found
myself at a loose end.

I found myself at Old Trafford one evening watching an FA Youth Cup tie and
was totally transfixed by a 15-year-old waif called Ryan Wilson.

Manager Alex Ferguson had warned me to watch out for the young kid on the
wing, that he was going to be something special.

It didn't take me too long to work out what he was talking about.

This Wilson was so confident, so quick with the ball. He could change the
angle of attack in an instant. He was definitely something special.

Ryan Wilson became Ryan Giggs - but the talent hasn't changed.

What is so impressive about Giggsy is how he can use his talent in what is
a very physical place - a Premiership football field.

Looking at Ryan, you wouldn't think he is the hardest player on earth
because he is so wiry. But, believe me, this is one tough cookie as well as
a gifted player.

He is so mentally tough, just as George Best was. If defenders were dishing
out punishment, Besty wouldn't disappear - he would want to make them look

Giggsy has that same mental strength. When we beat Chelsea 5-3 in the FA
Cup this season, people were rightly talking about the great football we

But I noticed the way that David Beckham and Ryan Giggs worked that day.
The way they tracked back. It was phenomenal.

The United team looked after itself and Ryan was part of that. If anyone
picked on one of the team, the others would help defend them. You have to
look after yourself as a team and, despite his stature, Ryan is part of that.

Certainly, I've never seen Ryan whingeing and weeping that someone has had
a dig at him. He played rugby league as a kid and that's not for the

Intimidation plays a part in the Premier League. If you show weakness to
any bullying tactics, word will spread and people will take advantage. But
any full-back who thought Ryan was an easy touch quickly learned they were
completely wrong.

A lot of people say this is Ryan's best season and I wouldn't disagree. The
biggest clubs in Europe know all about him after his performances against
the likes of Juventus. It's great news for United that he wants to be at
Old Trafford for years to come.

I remember well his debut as a 17-year-old against Manchester City. It
would have scared most teenagers half to death, but I've never seen Ryan
show any nerves and he took that day in his stride - and cut in from the
right to score a brilliant winner!

Even though he was so young, his talent on the pitch earned him respect
from the senior professionals. He showed maturity beyond his years. Since
that day, the hype around him has been extraordinary, but I honestly think
he has handled it better than anyone else who has been in a similar position.

I think a lot of credit has to go to his Mam. Ryan is very close to her and
his brother and sister, and that has helped him a lot.

It makes me laugh on Valentine's Day when Ryan and David Beckham get two
sackloads of mail. The receptionist calls over and goes `Gary, here's one
for you.' It's from some fan who remembers you from 1965!

 Talking to Joe Bernstein

A Manchester United is for life, not just for christmas.

If tomorrow was today, it would be yesterday.

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