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Date: Fri Aug 28 07:45:05 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. "Forty Years On" Diary of 40 hours in Manchester 1998 5/5
2. Hot off the Press: Complete Champions League Draw
3. Report  UNITED PROGRESS AT WALKING PACE
4. Telegraph Report
5. SOLSKJAER: WHY I'M STAYING AT UNITED
6. Phil Neville on the Webring
7. Internet Team on WWW


DRAW: GROUP D Champions League:
 Manchester United - Barcelona - Bayern Munich - Brondby

		     CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FIXTURES:
                      September 16
                      Brondby v Bayern Munich
                      Manchester Utd v Barcelona

                      September 30
                      Barcelona v Brondby
                      Bayern Munich v Manchester Utd

                      October 21
                      Bayern Munich v Barcelona
                      Brondby v Manchester Utd

                      November 4
                      Barcelona v Bayern Munich
                      Manchester Utd v Brondby

                      November 25th
                      Bayern Munich v Brondby
                      Barcelona v Manchester Utd

                      December 9
                      Brondby v Barcelona
                      Manchester Utd v Bayern Munich

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Daily RED Trivia  Friday 28th August:

1937: United beat Newcastle United 3-0 at Old Trafford in a Division 2 game
watched by 29,446. Tom Manley 2 and Billy Bryant scored the Reds goals.
Team was: Breen, Griffiths, Roughton, Gladwin, Vose, McKay, Bryant, Murray,
Bamford, Baird, Manley. United won promotion that season as Runners-up.

1982: Arnold Muhren made his debut against Birmingham City. Signed from Ipswich
Town, the skilful Dutchman was on the losing side in the 1983 League Cup Final
but scored the 4th goal in United's victory in the 1983 FA Cup Final. Played 97
times and scored 18 goals between 1982-84.  Many  caps for Holland, gaining a
Winners Medal in the 1992 European Championships. Won a UEFA cup medal with 
Ipswich Town in 1981, and a European Cup Winners Cup Runners-up medal in 1987.

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Next 4 games: 
Index: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
Wed  9/9 Charlton  (H) PL   Wed 16/9 Barcelona (H) CL  
Sat 12/9 Coventry  (H) PL   Sat 20/9 Arsenal   (A) PL

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Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.


Subject: list "Forty Years On" Diary of 40 hours in Manchester 1998 5/5

Diary August 16-19 1998:

Last part 5/5:  Day 4 Hal & May + long trek home

Arriving at Hal & May's house at 23.30pm we were greeted with a hot cuppa
and friendly smile from May. I was shown to my excellent room and Hal showed
me memories of Sir Matt hanging on the staircase walls. Hal and May are
personal friends of the Busby family and their kindness to me was very much
appreciated I can assure you.

I found a few photos of Pete and family from my last visit, and also a small
bottle of "Akavit" from Denmark. Hopefully they can try it out on some
friends one day...tastes best ice cold and remains as a liquid in the freezer!

I sat down with my tea in the lounge ready for the Testimonial highlights. 
        "This chair is of course the one Matt used" said May. 
Imagine the nostalgic thoughts one has having just spent the last 34hrs in
and around OT! Hal and May have many wonderful stories of the Great Man and
all of them confirm that he was simply a marvellous person. 

Match time on Granada and one hour of close ups of Eric, Fergie and the 12
goals made excellent entertainment even though Hal and I had just come from
the match! Fergie's smile in particular was very broad, we rarely see this
on a normal Sat afternoon. The antics of Ort....... were confirmed and
enjoyed whilst Eric's flicks, shimmy's and finesses were shown to be even
better in close up.

We all stayed up chatting about Manchester United, Matt and Munich.
I think the time was 2am when we decided that we should retire. After all I
had to be woken and up and away in 4 hrs!  

6am  Hal knocked on the door, hot cup of tea, what service! :)
Early start for me as the 7.30 train would whisk me off to Euston.
Quick shower, chat and thanks with Hal, off to Picadilly 6.30 am. We were in
good time and the roads were clear. I thanked Hal for his and May's
hospiality and for the fine late night chat we had.

Half an hour before the train was due. Newsagent time, I purchased all the
Manchester morning papers + The MEN from the day before. There was "Bestie"
by Joe Lovejoy on the shelf for 9.99, so in my bag it went! 
(Normal price for this hardback is 16.99)

The train pulled out of Manchester Picadilly at 7.35am Wed thats exactly 42
hours and 35mins after I had arrived! The trek home had started.

I slept some of the way and spoke to a chap on his portable computer running
a Fantasy Football Game. He was a Chelsea supporter but I gave him my RED
card anyway! The buffet car on the train was well supplied and a chat with
the waitress. She was RED and revealed the fact that her favorite George
Best often travelled on this line to do his Sky Sports program. She met
George quite often so I gave her an extra "www.red11.org" card to give
to Bestie next time she saw him!

The complete journey from Manchester to Aalborg, Denmark took me 16 hrs and
I used the following transport in that period of time: car, train,
underground, plane, car, boat, car ... arriving home at 11 pm the same night!

I even phoned Hal & May to let them know that I had arrived safely home.
Sorry Hal, if you had already gone to bed and I woke you up?

This ends the entire story of Munich and Eric's farewell. Hope you enjoyed
reading this marathon and hope to see you ALL down the Throstes Nest in
Manchester one day? 

                THE END

Barry Leeming bORN aND bRED in Oldham
living in Denmark
As RED as you get!

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This Multi Media Diary is available on www at:
        http://www.red11.org/mufc/40years.htm

REQUEST TO ALL LIST MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED THE MUNICH TESTIMONIAL:
To be used on the website as a multi media story of Munich/Eric's farewell.
Please write 100-200 words about your experiences that day.

Mail them to me at barrylee@post3.tele.dk
If you have any photos even better! (Alan)
  Thanks in advance
   Barry

Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.



Subject: Hot off the Press: Complete Champions League Draw

     GROUP A
     1) Croatia Zagreb (Cro)
     2) Olympiakos (Gre)
     3) FC Porto (Por)
     4) Ajax (Hol)

     GROUP B
     1) Galatasaray (Tur)
     2) Rosenborg (Nor)
     3) Athletico Bilbao (Spa)
     4) Juventus (Ita)

     GROUP C
     1) Spartak Moscow (Rus)
     2) Sturm Graz (Aut)
     3) Inter Milan (Ita)
     4) Real Madrid (Spa)

     GROUP D
     1) Brondby (Den)
     2) Manchester United (Eng)
     3) Bayern Munich (Ger)
     4) Barcelona (Spa)

     GROUP E
     1) Dinamo Kiev (Ukr)
     2) Panathinaikos (Gre)
     3) Arsenal (Eng)
     4) Lens (Fra)

     GROUP F
     1) Helsinki (Fin)
     2) Benfica (Por)
     3) PSV Eindhoven (Hol)
     4) Kaiserslautern (Ger)

     Groups could be subject to later alteration
     c PA Sporting Life

Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.



Subject: 365 Report  UNITED PROGRESS AT WALKING PACE

Thursday 27 August 1998   News 1

UNITED PROGRESS AT WALKING PACE
LKS Lodz 0 Man United 0 (agg: 0-2)

A GOALLESS draw and a pretty uninspiring performance, but that won't matter
to Alex Ferguson who smiled his way through 90 minutes of tedium as his team
progressed into the multi-million pound world of the Champions League.

The result in the qualifying round second leg, following on from their 2-0
first leg triumph, was enough to see United through to the Champions League
for the fourth time - the draw for which will take place in Monaco
today -and guarantees them a windfall of as much as £5million for competing
against Europe's elite.

Antoni Ptak, owner of the Polish side, welcomed United to Lodz in his
programme notes and claimed the industrial city is known as the Manchester
of Poland. Yet, in truth, the only similarity between the two teams was that
they both had 11 players.

This was a controlled performance from United who rarely broke sweat and
were hardly ever in trouble against the mediocre Polish champions in their
run-down stadium in front of a meagre crowd. Indeed they could, and should,
have scored to make their victory margin even greater, but Ferguson will not
be too bothered by that.

United dealt comfortably with the Poles' early threat and midway through the
first half they began to assert themselves. Nicky Butt pounced on a loose
ball just outside the area and unleashed a shot which Lodz goalkeeper
Boguslaw Wyparlo could only parry.

Teddy Sheringham, who was making his first start of the season in place of
Andy Cole, should have done better when he rose to head a Ryan Giggs corner,
but the England striker directed his weak effort wide of the post. Ferguson
will not have been impressed by David Beckham after the midfielder
needlessly got himself booked for a clumsy tackle on Tomasz Kos on the half
hour.

United continued to threaten an away goal, which would have killed the tie,
and Ronny Johnsen hit a bouncing effort into the arms of Wyparlo from a
Giggs corner. The Lodz keeper was called into action again three minutes
before half-time when he produced a fine finger-tip save to touch Beckham's
shot over the bar; United's best moment of the game.

United continued to control the match and they went close again when Roy
Keane found Beckham in space on the right and Sheringham was just
centimetres away from connecting with his inviting ball into the middle.
Lodz, though, gave United a scare after 61 minutes when Kos' free-kick took
a massive deflection and dropped just wide of the goal with Peter
Schmeichel, who was making his 25th Champions' League appearance, stranded.

Needless to say, the United player who deflected the ball - Ronny Johnsen -
got a typical, verbal blast from the Danish keeper, though why we'll never
know.

United were soon back in charge and Keane shot wide after Beckham's effort
had been saved by Wyparlo, while Butt sent a rasping drive just inches over
the bar. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, who turned down a move to Tottenham at the
weekend, almost stole a late winner three minutes from time only for Wyparlo
to block his point-blank shot.

By the end of the match the players and supporters in the mostly uncovered
ground had been soaked by the rain but it will not have dampened United's
spirits. The first hurdle has been cleared and a golden path lies ahead.


Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.



Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:33:35 -0400
Subject: LIST: Telegraph Report

United cruise through as Beckham pulls strings
By Henry Winter

LKS Lodz (0) 0 Manchester Utd (0) 0
(Man Utd win 2-0 on agg)

IN a delapidated stadium resembling a building site, Manchester United last
night laid the foundations for another Champions' League journey. Playing
with patience and persistence, United qualified for the group stage with a
thoroughly professional performance, hewn from the grit of Roy Keane and the
guile of David Beckham.

Both midfielders were excellent as United dealt with the early pressure of
the Poles before imposing their own game. Keane took charge of the central
parts while Beckham, always involved, was often behind United's best
attacking moments. Jaap Stam, too, was in commanding form, ensuring that
United's two-goal first-leg cushion was never threatened.

United's focus now turns towards Monaco, home of their European nemesis last
season, for tonight's Champions' League draw. United cannot meet Arsenal,
the Premiership title-holders, but having qualified through the back-door
Ferguson's side know they can expect to face some heavyweight names.

Real Madrid, Barcelona, Ajax and Juventus are obviously the ones to avoid.
Of the main champions, Porto, Lens and Kaiserslautern represent marginally
more attractive alternatives for the round-robin stage that commences on
Sept 16. In the uplifting event that either English entrants manage to reach
the final on May 26, it will cause the odd headache for Glenn Hoddle, who
will be preparing for back-to-back Euro 2000 qualifying matches against
Sweden and Bulgaria.

Following his dismissal against Argentina at France 98, Beckham will not
feature in the squad Hoddle announces today for next week's visit to
Stockholm. He certainly attempted to take this morning's headlines with a
first-half performance of promise last night.

Although cautioned for tripping Tomasz Kos, Beckham showed his positive side
by busily tracking back to shield Phil Neville. The England midfielder,
whose touches triggered chants of "Argentina" from the vocal locals, enjoyed
United's best chance as the half climaxed, running on to Ryan Giggs's pass
before shooting powerfully goalwards. Boguslaw Wyparlo again displayed his
first-leg excellence with a fine push-over save.

Earlier, Wyparlo had required the assistance of Witold Bendkowski to deal
with Nicky Butt's long-range shot as United slowly swung into life. United's
prominence arrived after they had weathered the predictable Polish storm,
much of it whipped up by Rafal Niznik, a lively playmaking presence.
Niznik's early shot, close enough to send Peter Schmeichel scurrying across
his line, gave warning of the Poles' intent. Zbigniew Wyciszkiewicz,
sprinting through hungrily as United's defence hesitated, also threatened
only for the composed Stam to block.

In these alarming moments, United were reliant on Keane to steady their
nerves. The Irishman kept his team-mates concentrating, kept them alive to
the dangers emanating from LKS, kept playing the ball to feet rather than
the hasty and wayward passes of some of his colleagues. Leading by example,
United's captain threw himself into tackles, closed down opponents and still
found time to charge forward in support of his strikers.

Ferguson had elected to start with Teddy Sheringham and Paul Scholes, the
argument being that Sheringham was better at retaining possession than Andy
Cole. Yet Sheringham looked out of sorts in the first half, missing a
straightforward header after 27 minutes. Giggs's inswinging corner did not
deserve such profligacy.


Giggs's influence rose as the half progressed. Showing wonderful touch and
pace, United's Welshman beat Ariel Jakubow ski but his resulting cross was
plucked from the cold night air by Wyparlo. The goalkeeper then dealt
comfortably with Ronny Johnsen's first-timer as United maintained their
pressure.

With Keane dominating midfield, Beckham was able to venture forward and
exhibit his undoubted talent as the second half unfolded. Moments after the
turnaround, a fine Beckham cross should have been read more quickly by
Sheringham and the moment was lost. Then Beckham played a wonderful
first-time pass out to Neville to set up another attack, although the Poles
were rarely short of numbers in their defence.

United were running the show with Beckham pulling the strings. He would have
scored with a thunderous shot but for the reflexes of Wyparlo; Keane,
supporting assiduously, misdirected the follow-up. Butt, impressive
alongside Keane, then sent a violent shot just over after 69 minutes.

The Poles were reduced to counter-attacks and the occasional set-pieces.
Kos's free-kick just after the hour deflected off Johnsen and fell just wide
of Schmeichel's right-hand upright.

LKS Lodz: Wyparlo, Bendowski, Krysiak, Pawlak, Lenart (Pluciennik 81),
Jakubowski (Bugaj 84), Kos, Niznik, Wyciszkiewicz, Wieszczycki, Zuberek
(Piotr 51). Subs Not Used: Slawuta, Paszulewicz. Booked: Kos.

Man Utd: Schmeichel, Neville, Irwin, Stam, Johnsen, Butt, Keane, Beckham,
Giggs (Solskjaer 64), Scholes, Sheringham. Subs Not Used: Van Der Gouw, May,
Berg, Cole, Cruyff, Brown. Booked: Beckham.

Agg (0-2)

Att: 8,000

Ref: C Graziano (Italy).
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.



Subject: SOLSKJAER: WHY I'M STAYING AT UNITED

SOLSKJAER: WHY I'M STAYING AT UNITED

By David Anderson, PA Sport

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is staying at Manchester United because manager Alex
Ferguson has assured him he has a future at Old Trafford.

The Norwegian international striker appeared to be surplus to requirements
at United following the record £12.6million signing of Dwight Yorke and the
club agreed to sell him to Tottenham for £5.5million.

Speaking for the first time since he rejected the move, Solskjaer revealed
that he has opted to remain at United because Ferguson has told him he
still figures in his first-team plans. 

Solskjaer, 25, who joined United in a £1.5million move from Molde in July
1996, was flattered by Spurs' interest, but he is determined to see out the
remaining six years of his Old Trafford contract, even if he is not
guaranteed a starting place. 

That is also bad news for Everton manager Walter Smith who would like to
bring Solskjaer to Goodison Park.

"I'm staying at Manchester United," said Solskjaer.

"Of course it is very flattering when a big club like Tottenham is
interested in you, but I have enjoyed all of my time at Manchester United.

"When I spoke to the manager about it he is not closing any doors for me
and that's fair enough.

"I want to stay for the remaining six years of my Manchester United
contract," he told ClubCall.
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.



From: Barry Leeming 
Subject:  Phil Neville on the Webring
Webring url: http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=manufan;list

Url: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Shores/8593/philindex.html

Name:       Philip John Neville.
Birthdate:  21st January 1977.
Birthplace: Bury.
Height:     5'11"
Weight:     11st 10lb
Squad number: 12
Schools:
     - Chantlers Primary School,Bury
     - Elton High School,Bury

Junior Football Teams:
     - St.Stephens Under 10/11
     - Ice Juniors Under 12's
     - Bury Juniors Under 12/13/14/15
     - Boundry Park Juniors Under 16s

Junior Representative:
     - Bury & Radcliffe League Under 12(Captain) & Under 14(Captain)
     - Bury Boys Town Team Under 14(Captain) & Under15(Captain)
     - Greater Manchester Under 15(Captain)
     - England Schools(8 caps)

Other Sports:
     - Lancashire Schools Cricket Under 11/12/13/14/15/ 16's(Captained all ages)
     - North Of England Cricket Under 14's (Captain) & Under 15's(Captain)
     - England Schools Cricket Under 11(Captain)Under14(Captain)& Under 15
     - Lancashire CCC. 2nd. X1 (Youngest Player ever to play at 14 against Middlesex)

Career:
     Joined Manchester United School Of Excellence; September 1988
     Signed Schoolboy;September 1990
     Joined Manchester United Trainee;1993
     Youth Honours;
     - FA Youth Cup Runner Up 1993
     - A Youth Cup Winner 1995
     - Lancs Youth Cup Winner 1993
     - Lancs League Div 1 Winner 1992/93 & 1993/94
     - Point League Winner 1994
     - England Under 16s Caps 11
     - England Youth Caps 4
     Manchester United Debut:FA Cup 3rd Round vs Wrexham 1995
     Manchester United League Debut:vs Manchester City,January 1995
     England Under 21 6 Caps Debut June 1995 Toulon Tournament
     England National Team

PERSONAL
Biggest Influence In Youth Career:
     Eric Harrison and Brian Kidd.
Biggest Influence In Professional Career:
     Alex Ferguson,Brian Kidd and Gary Neville
Footballing Hero:
     Brian Robson and Gary Neville
Favourite Manchester United Player:
     Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville
Favourite England Player:
     Gary Neville
Team Supported As A Youngster:
     Manchester United and Bury ("because my mum and my dad work there")
Favourite Ground:
     Old Trafford and Coventry
Favourite Food:
     Any Pasta,Steak and Chocolate Fudge Cake
Best Friends:
     Gary Neville,Grant Brebner and David Gardner
Other Hobbies:
     Golf and Cricket
Cars:
     Honda Prelude,Vauxhall Frontera,BMW and Mercedes
Favourite Film:
     Dumb & Dumber
Favourite Actor:
     Jim Carey
Favourite books:
     Any Autobiography
Favourite Music:
     Any Sole Music
Favourite Clothes:
     Armani and Polo Ralph Lauren
Boots/Size & Make:
     Size 9 Diadora
Favourite Newspaper:
     The Sun
Proudest Moment:
     Making My League Debut For Manchester United ("That's all I have ever wanted")
Worst Moment:
     Had been sicked and injuried during 1996/1997 season
Ambition:
     "To Play For Manchester United For The Rest Of My Career And Play For
England As Many Time As Possible"

Quote
"You shiver just at the thought of being here; I want to play with that
atmosphere surrounding me." 
Phil Neville on playing at Old Trafford

"Once we're on the pitch it's just like he's another player. You can't treat him as your brother. I think when we played in the Youth Team together, I used to have a go at him more then anyone because he was my brother. The other lads sorted me out on that one." 
Gary Neville on his brother Phil

"I don't think Phil ever scores a goal, to be honest. He scored one once in
the under-elevens! At school he was renowned for scoring own goals!"
Gary Neville on Phil

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Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.



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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:30:25 -0700
To: suggs@tiac.net
From: "Doug Crouch (MEPCD)"  (by way of Red Devils Mailing List )
Subject: Internet Team on WWW

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:30:25 -0700
To: suggs@tiac.net
From: "Doug Crouch (MEPCD)"  
(by way of Red Devils Mailing List )

Hello
The home-page of the Man Utd supporters Internet 'football team' has now
been fully updated , forget the last piece of crap - this is the dog's nuts
with a full report on WorldNet 98 which was the recent tournament held in
Reading.

Remember it's your football team - we're always looking for football playing
listees so if you're interested then get in touch. Future fixtures include a
game against the Man City mailing-list fans on Sept19th and a tournament in
Leicester on Oct11th. 

More details about the team at :
www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palms/4814

Doug
WARNING - The intro page contains the famous full-monty photo of Dobson ,
Scully and Wheeler which may upset young children. View carefully !





Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.



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