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Date: Fri Aug 28 07:45:05 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. "Forty Years On" Diary of 40 hours in Manchester 1998 5/5
2. Hot off the Press: Complete Champions League Draw
4. Telegraph Report
6. Phil Neville on the Webring
7. Internet Team on WWW

DRAW: GROUP D Champions League:
 Manchester United - Barcelona - Bayern Munich - Brondby

                      September 16
                      Brondby v Bayern Munich
                      Manchester Utd v Barcelona

                      September 30
                      Barcelona v Brondby
                      Bayern Munich v Manchester Utd

                      October 21
                      Bayern Munich v Barcelona
                      Brondby v Manchester Utd

                      November 4
                      Barcelona v Bayern Munich
                      Manchester Utd v Brondby

                      November 25th
                      Bayern Munich v Brondby
                      Barcelona v Manchester Utd

                      December 9
                      Brondby v Barcelona
                      Manchester Utd v Bayern Munich

Daily RED Trivia  Friday 28th August:

1937: United beat Newcastle United 3-0 at Old Trafford in a Division 2 game
watched by 29,446. Tom Manley 2 and Billy Bryant scored the Reds goals.
Team was: Breen, Griffiths, Roughton, Gladwin, Vose, McKay, Bryant, Murray,
Bamford, Baird, Manley. United won promotion that season as Runners-up.

1982: Arnold Muhren made his debut against Birmingham City. Signed from Ipswich
Town, the skilful Dutchman was on the losing side in the 1983 League Cup Final
but scored the 4th goal in United's victory in the 1983 FA Cup Final. Played 97
times and scored 18 goals between 1982-84.  Many  caps for Holland, gaining a
Winners Medal in the 1992 European Championships. Won a UEFA cup medal with 
Ipswich Town in 1981, and a European Cup Winners Cup Runners-up medal in 1987.

Next 4 games: 
Index: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
Wed  9/9 Charlton  (H) PL   Wed 16/9 Barcelona (H) CL  
Sat 12/9 Coventry  (H) PL   Sat 20/9 Arsenal   (A) PL


Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

Subject: list "Forty Years On" Diary of 40 hours in Manchester 1998 5/5 Diary August 16-19 1998: Last part 5/5: Day 4 Hal & May + long trek home Arriving at Hal & May's house at 23.30pm we were greeted with a hot cuppa and friendly smile from May. I was shown to my excellent room and Hal showed me memories of Sir Matt hanging on the staircase walls. Hal and May are personal friends of the Busby family and their kindness to me was very much appreciated I can assure you. I found a few photos of Pete and family from my last visit, and also a small bottle of "Akavit" from Denmark. Hopefully they can try it out on some friends one day...tastes best ice cold and remains as a liquid in the freezer! I sat down with my tea in the lounge ready for the Testimonial highlights. "This chair is of course the one Matt used" said May. Imagine the nostalgic thoughts one has having just spent the last 34hrs in and around OT! Hal and May have many wonderful stories of the Great Man and all of them confirm that he was simply a marvellous person. Match time on Granada and one hour of close ups of Eric, Fergie and the 12 goals made excellent entertainment even though Hal and I had just come from the match! Fergie's smile in particular was very broad, we rarely see this on a normal Sat afternoon. The antics of Ort....... were confirmed and enjoyed whilst Eric's flicks, shimmy's and finesses were shown to be even better in close up. We all stayed up chatting about Manchester United, Matt and Munich. I think the time was 2am when we decided that we should retire. After all I had to be woken and up and away in 4 hrs! 6am Hal knocked on the door, hot cup of tea, what service! :) Early start for me as the 7.30 train would whisk me off to Euston. Quick shower, chat and thanks with Hal, off to Picadilly 6.30 am. We were in good time and the roads were clear. I thanked Hal for his and May's hospiality and for the fine late night chat we had. Half an hour before the train was due. Newsagent time, I purchased all the Manchester morning papers + The MEN from the day before. There was "Bestie" by Joe Lovejoy on the shelf for 9.99, so in my bag it went! (Normal price for this hardback is 16.99) The train pulled out of Manchester Picadilly at 7.35am Wed thats exactly 42 hours and 35mins after I had arrived! The trek home had started. I slept some of the way and spoke to a chap on his portable computer running a Fantasy Football Game. He was a Chelsea supporter but I gave him my RED card anyway! The buffet car on the train was well supplied and a chat with the waitress. She was RED and revealed the fact that her favorite George Best often travelled on this line to do his Sky Sports program. She met George quite often so I gave her an extra "www.red11.org" card to give to Bestie next time she saw him! The complete journey from Manchester to Aalborg, Denmark took me 16 hrs and I used the following transport in that period of time: car, train, underground, plane, car, boat, car ... arriving home at 11 pm the same night! I even phoned Hal & May to let them know that I had arrived safely home. Sorry Hal, if you had already gone to bed and I woke you up? This ends the entire story of Munich and Eric's farewell. Hope you enjoyed reading this marathon and hope to see you ALL down the Throstes Nest in Manchester one day? THE END Barry Leeming bORN aND bRED in Oldham living in Denmark As RED as you get! *************************************************************** This Multi Media Diary is available on www at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/40years.htm REQUEST TO ALL LIST MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED THE MUNICH TESTIMONIAL: To be used on the website as a multi media story of Munich/Eric's farewell. Please write 100-200 words about your experiences that day. Mail them to me at barrylee@post3.tele.dk If you have any photos even better! (Alan) Thanks in advance Barry
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

Subject: Hot off the Press: Complete Champions League Draw GROUP A 1) Croatia Zagreb (Cro) 2) Olympiakos (Gre) 3) FC Porto (Por) 4) Ajax (Hol) GROUP B 1) Galatasaray (Tur) 2) Rosenborg (Nor) 3) Athletico Bilbao (Spa) 4) Juventus (Ita) GROUP C 1) Spartak Moscow (Rus) 2) Sturm Graz (Aut) 3) Inter Milan (Ita) 4) Real Madrid (Spa) GROUP D 1) Brondby (Den) 2) Manchester United (Eng) 3) Bayern Munich (Ger) 4) Barcelona (Spa) GROUP E 1) Dinamo Kiev (Ukr) 2) Panathinaikos (Gre) 3) Arsenal (Eng) 4) Lens (Fra) GROUP F 1) Helsinki (Fin) 2) Benfica (Por) 3) PSV Eindhoven (Hol) 4) Kaiserslautern (Ger) Groups could be subject to later alteration c PA Sporting Life
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

Subject: 365 Report UNITED PROGRESS AT WALKING PACE Thursday 27 August 1998 News 1 UNITED PROGRESS AT WALKING PACE LKS Lodz 0 Man United 0 (agg: 0-2) A GOALLESS draw and a pretty uninspiring performance, but that won't matter to Alex Ferguson who smiled his way through 90 minutes of tedium as his team progressed into the multi-million pound world of the Champions League. The result in the qualifying round second leg, following on from their 2-0 first leg triumph, was enough to see United through to the Champions League for the fourth time - the draw for which will take place in Monaco today -and guarantees them a windfall of as much as 5million for competing against Europe's elite. Antoni Ptak, owner of the Polish side, welcomed United to Lodz in his programme notes and claimed the industrial city is known as the Manchester of Poland. Yet, in truth, the only similarity between the two teams was that they both had 11 players. This was a controlled performance from United who rarely broke sweat and were hardly ever in trouble against the mediocre Polish champions in their run-down stadium in front of a meagre crowd. Indeed they could, and should, have scored to make their victory margin even greater, but Ferguson will not be too bothered by that. United dealt comfortably with the Poles' early threat and midway through the first half they began to assert themselves. Nicky Butt pounced on a loose ball just outside the area and unleashed a shot which Lodz goalkeeper Boguslaw Wyparlo could only parry. Teddy Sheringham, who was making his first start of the season in place of Andy Cole, should have done better when he rose to head a Ryan Giggs corner, but the England striker directed his weak effort wide of the post. Ferguson will not have been impressed by David Beckham after the midfielder needlessly got himself booked for a clumsy tackle on Tomasz Kos on the half hour. United continued to threaten an away goal, which would have killed the tie, and Ronny Johnsen hit a bouncing effort into the arms of Wyparlo from a Giggs corner. The Lodz keeper was called into action again three minutes before half-time when he produced a fine finger-tip save to touch Beckham's shot over the bar; United's best moment of the game. United continued to control the match and they went close again when Roy Keane found Beckham in space on the right and Sheringham was just centimetres away from connecting with his inviting ball into the middle. Lodz, though, gave United a scare after 61 minutes when Kos' free-kick took a massive deflection and dropped just wide of the goal with Peter Schmeichel, who was making his 25th Champions' League appearance, stranded. Needless to say, the United player who deflected the ball - Ronny Johnsen - got a typical, verbal blast from the Danish keeper, though why we'll never know. United were soon back in charge and Keane shot wide after Beckham's effort had been saved by Wyparlo, while Butt sent a rasping drive just inches over the bar. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, who turned down a move to Tottenham at the weekend, almost stole a late winner three minutes from time only for Wyparlo to block his point-blank shot. By the end of the match the players and supporters in the mostly uncovered ground had been soaked by the rain but it will not have dampened United's spirits. The first hurdle has been cleared and a golden path lies ahead.
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:33:35 -0400 Subject: LIST: Telegraph Report United cruise through as Beckham pulls strings By Henry Winter LKS Lodz (0) 0 Manchester Utd (0) 0 (Man Utd win 2-0 on agg) IN a delapidated stadium resembling a building site, Manchester United last night laid the foundations for another Champions' League journey. Playing with patience and persistence, United qualified for the group stage with a thoroughly professional performance, hewn from the grit of Roy Keane and the guile of David Beckham. Both midfielders were excellent as United dealt with the early pressure of the Poles before imposing their own game. Keane took charge of the central parts while Beckham, always involved, was often behind United's best attacking moments. Jaap Stam, too, was in commanding form, ensuring that United's two-goal first-leg cushion was never threatened. United's focus now turns towards Monaco, home of their European nemesis last season, for tonight's Champions' League draw. United cannot meet Arsenal, the Premiership title-holders, but having qualified through the back-door Ferguson's side know they can expect to face some heavyweight names. Real Madrid, Barcelona, Ajax and Juventus are obviously the ones to avoid. Of the main champions, Porto, Lens and Kaiserslautern represent marginally more attractive alternatives for the round-robin stage that commences on Sept 16. In the uplifting event that either English entrants manage to reach the final on May 26, it will cause the odd headache for Glenn Hoddle, who will be preparing for back-to-back Euro 2000 qualifying matches against Sweden and Bulgaria. Following his dismissal against Argentina at France 98, Beckham will not feature in the squad Hoddle announces today for next week's visit to Stockholm. He certainly attempted to take this morning's headlines with a first-half performance of promise last night. Although cautioned for tripping Tomasz Kos, Beckham showed his positive side by busily tracking back to shield Phil Neville. The England midfielder, whose touches triggered chants of "Argentina" from the vocal locals, enjoyed United's best chance as the half climaxed, running on to Ryan Giggs's pass before shooting powerfully goalwards. Boguslaw Wyparlo again displayed his first-leg excellence with a fine push-over save. Earlier, Wyparlo had required the assistance of Witold Bendkowski to deal with Nicky Butt's long-range shot as United slowly swung into life. United's prominence arrived after they had weathered the predictable Polish storm, much of it whipped up by Rafal Niznik, a lively playmaking presence. Niznik's early shot, close enough to send Peter Schmeichel scurrying across his line, gave warning of the Poles' intent. Zbigniew Wyciszkiewicz, sprinting through hungrily as United's defence hesitated, also threatened only for the composed Stam to block. In these alarming moments, United were reliant on Keane to steady their nerves. The Irishman kept his team-mates concentrating, kept them alive to the dangers emanating from LKS, kept playing the ball to feet rather than the hasty and wayward passes of some of his colleagues. Leading by example, United's captain threw himself into tackles, closed down opponents and still found time to charge forward in support of his strikers. Ferguson had elected to start with Teddy Sheringham and Paul Scholes, the argument being that Sheringham was better at retaining possession than Andy Cole. Yet Sheringham looked out of sorts in the first half, missing a straightforward header after 27 minutes. Giggs's inswinging corner did not deserve such profligacy. Giggs's influence rose as the half progressed. Showing wonderful touch and pace, United's Welshman beat Ariel Jakubow ski but his resulting cross was plucked from the cold night air by Wyparlo. The goalkeeper then dealt comfortably with Ronny Johnsen's first-timer as United maintained their pressure. With Keane dominating midfield, Beckham was able to venture forward and exhibit his undoubted talent as the second half unfolded. Moments after the turnaround, a fine Beckham cross should have been read more quickly by Sheringham and the moment was lost. Then Beckham played a wonderful first-time pass out to Neville to set up another attack, although the Poles were rarely short of numbers in their defence. United were running the show with Beckham pulling the strings. He would have scored with a thunderous shot but for the reflexes of Wyparlo; Keane, supporting assiduously, misdirected the follow-up. Butt, impressive alongside Keane, then sent a violent shot just over after 69 minutes. The Poles were reduced to counter-attacks and the occasional set-pieces. Kos's free-kick just after the hour deflected off Johnsen and fell just wide of Schmeichel's right-hand upright. LKS Lodz: Wyparlo, Bendowski, Krysiak, Pawlak, Lenart (Pluciennik 81), Jakubowski (Bugaj 84), Kos, Niznik, Wyciszkiewicz, Wieszczycki, Zuberek (Piotr 51). Subs Not Used: Slawuta, Paszulewicz. Booked: Kos. Man Utd: Schmeichel, Neville, Irwin, Stam, Johnsen, Butt, Keane, Beckham, Giggs (Solskjaer 64), Scholes, Sheringham. Subs Not Used: Van Der Gouw, May, Berg, Cole, Cruyff, Brown. Booked: Beckham. Agg (0-2) Att: 8,000 Ref: C Graziano (Italy).
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

Subject: SOLSKJAER: WHY I'M STAYING AT UNITED SOLSKJAER: WHY I'M STAYING AT UNITED By David Anderson, PA Sport Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is staying at Manchester United because manager Alex Ferguson has assured him he has a future at Old Trafford. The Norwegian international striker appeared to be surplus to requirements at United following the record 12.6million signing of Dwight Yorke and the club agreed to sell him to Tottenham for 5.5million. Speaking for the first time since he rejected the move, Solskjaer revealed that he has opted to remain at United because Ferguson has told him he still figures in his first-team plans. Solskjaer, 25, who joined United in a 1.5million move from Molde in July 1996, was flattered by Spurs' interest, but he is determined to see out the remaining six years of his Old Trafford contract, even if he is not guaranteed a starting place. That is also bad news for Everton manager Walter Smith who would like to bring Solskjaer to Goodison Park. "I'm staying at Manchester United," said Solskjaer. "Of course it is very flattering when a big club like Tottenham is interested in you, but I have enjoyed all of my time at Manchester United. "When I spoke to the manager about it he is not closing any doors for me and that's fair enough. "I want to stay for the remaining six years of my Manchester United contract," he told ClubCall.
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

From: Barry Leeming Subject: Phil Neville on the Webring Webring url: http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=manufan;list Url: http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Shores/8593/philindex.html Name: Philip John Neville. Birthdate: 21st January 1977. Birthplace: Bury. Height: 5'11" Weight: 11st 10lb Squad number: 12 Schools: - Chantlers Primary School,Bury - Elton High School,Bury Junior Football Teams: - St.Stephens Under 10/11 - Ice Juniors Under 12's - Bury Juniors Under 12/13/14/15 - Boundry Park Juniors Under 16s Junior Representative: - Bury & Radcliffe League Under 12(Captain) & Under 14(Captain) - Bury Boys Town Team Under 14(Captain) & Under15(Captain) - Greater Manchester Under 15(Captain) - England Schools(8 caps) Other Sports: - Lancashire Schools Cricket Under 11/12/13/14/15/ 16's(Captained all ages) - North Of England Cricket Under 14's (Captain) & Under 15's(Captain) - England Schools Cricket Under 11(Captain)Under14(Captain)& Under 15 - Lancashire CCC. 2nd. X1 (Youngest Player ever to play at 14 against Middlesex) Career: Joined Manchester United School Of Excellence; September 1988 Signed Schoolboy;September 1990 Joined Manchester United Trainee;1993 Youth Honours; - FA Youth Cup Runner Up 1993 - A Youth Cup Winner 1995 - Lancs Youth Cup Winner 1993 - Lancs League Div 1 Winner 1992/93 & 1993/94 - Point League Winner 1994 - England Under 16s Caps 11 - England Youth Caps 4 Manchester United Debut:FA Cup 3rd Round vs Wrexham 1995 Manchester United League Debut:vs Manchester City,January 1995 England Under 21 6 Caps Debut June 1995 Toulon Tournament England National Team PERSONAL Biggest Influence In Youth Career: Eric Harrison and Brian Kidd. Biggest Influence In Professional Career: Alex Ferguson,Brian Kidd and Gary Neville Footballing Hero: Brian Robson and Gary Neville Favourite Manchester United Player: Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville Favourite England Player: Gary Neville Team Supported As A Youngster: Manchester United and Bury ("because my mum and my dad work there") Favourite Ground: Old Trafford and Coventry Favourite Food: Any Pasta,Steak and Chocolate Fudge Cake Best Friends: Gary Neville,Grant Brebner and David Gardner Other Hobbies: Golf and Cricket Cars: Honda Prelude,Vauxhall Frontera,BMW and Mercedes Favourite Film: Dumb & Dumber Favourite Actor: Jim Carey Favourite books: Any Autobiography Favourite Music: Any Sole Music Favourite Clothes: Armani and Polo Ralph Lauren Boots/Size & Make: Size 9 Diadora Favourite Newspaper: The Sun Proudest Moment: Making My League Debut For Manchester United ("That's all I have ever wanted") Worst Moment: Had been sicked and injuried during 1996/1997 season Ambition: "To Play For Manchester United For The Rest Of My Career And Play For England As Many Time As Possible" Quote "You shiver just at the thought of being here; I want to play with that atmosphere surrounding me." Phil Neville on playing at Old Trafford "Once we're on the pitch it's just like he's another player. You can't treat him as your brother. I think when we played in the Youth Team together, I used to have a go at him more then anyone because he was my brother. The other lads sorted me out on that one." Gary Neville on his brother Phil "I don't think Phil ever scores a goal, to be honest. He scored one once in the under-elevens! At school he was renowned for scoring own goals!" Gary Neville on Phil _ _ __ __ ______ _______ / \ / \ | | | | _____| ____| / \/ \| |_| | ____|| |____ /___/\/\___\\_____/|__| |_______| *********Theatre of Dreams********* http://www.red11.org
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

X-Sender: giggs@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:30:25 -0700 To: suggs@tiac.net From: "Doug Crouch (MEPCD)" (by way of Red Devils Mailing List ) Subject: Internet Team on WWW Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:30:25 -0700 To: suggs@tiac.net From: "Doug Crouch (MEPCD)" (by way of Red Devils Mailing List ) Hello The home-page of the Man Utd supporters Internet 'football team' has now been fully updated , forget the last piece of crap - this is the dog's nuts with a full report on WorldNet 98 which was the recent tournament held in Reading. Remember it's your football team - we're always looking for football playing listees so if you're interested then get in touch. Future fixtures include a game against the Man City mailing-list fans on Sept19th and a tournament in Leicester on Oct11th. More details about the team at : www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/palms/4814 Doug WARNING - The intro page contains the famous full-monty photo of Dobson , Scully and Wheeler which may upset young children. View carefully !
Hal & Barry at the Throstles after the Testimonial.

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