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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Fri Dec 25 08:32:42 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Happy Christmas List
2. Just for Christmas fun
3. Santa's stocking stuffers
4. Re: Two answers by Our Salford Lass
5. Two answers from Tony


Daily RED Trivia  Christmas Day Issue Fri 25th December 1998:

25/12/1920: Sammy Lynn born in St Helens. Lynn made his debut at Charlton Athletic
 in January 1948, and the tall Half-back played 13 times between 1948-51, before
 Joining Bradford Park Avenue in February 1951.

25 1957: In Uniteds last Christmas Day fixture they beat Luton Town 3-0 at Old
 Trafford in a Division 1 game watched by 39,444. Bobby Charlton, Duncan
 Edwards and Tommy Taylor scored the goals. Team was: Gregg, Foulkes,
 Bryne, Colman, M.Jones, Edwards, Morgans, Charlton, Taylor, Viollet, Scanlon.


Barry Daily Comment:

A Very Merry Christmas today to RES All Over the World!
Have a RED Christmas football starts again already on Boxing day!
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Barry diggin the potatoes!
"Jingle Bells Jingle Bells" ...hic

Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio

Remaining 1998 games: 

ALL Result/Fixture Index:

Sat 26/12 Nottm Forest  (H) PL 15.00
Tue 29/12 Chelsea       (A) PL sky sports time 19.45 UK

UNITED Stats v All teams:


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds                    Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlebrough             Home     L  2-3     3    55,152

Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich


 Manchester Utd    v   Inter Milan
 Real Madrid       v   Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus          v   Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich     v   Kaiserslautern

 Ties to be played on March 3 and 17


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From: "Seamus Gallen" Subject: Happy Christmas List Happy Christmas to everyone, and lets hope for some improvement in 1999! The recent results have been just so depressing. I've been racking my brain to come up with the answer to Tony Smith's question. Two candidates for me would be the hammering by Ipswich (6-1?), and the 3-2 loss to Forest, after being (I think) 2-0 up. Johnny Metgod scored the winner from a free from about 100 yards. I think the current malaise stems from the management decision to put all the eggs in the Inter Milan basket. It has filtered through to the players. They have taken the managers comment seriously that his biggest worry is having a full squad to pick from for the EC quarter-final. They looked like players (on Saturday) whose main priority was avoiding injury, - apart from Keane. Hardly a recipe for league success, even against Middlesbrough, a very average team composed of has-beens, budget foreigners and Phil Stamp. No amount of talent will win anything without motivation and application. We don't need to buy players (except for a goalkeeper) - just get them organised and focussed. Much is made of the lack of a settled pair in central defence. Chelsea played Duberry and Lambourde against us, and they did OK. Did they ever play together before? They are certainly not first choice. Villa played a 17-year-old against us. Playing centre-half is not exactly rocket science. Gary Neville is not a central defender for the very simple reason that he doesn't have the bulk. Full back is the place for him. He is a fine footballer with a terrific attitude, but he is 11 stone weight. Gary Pallister is 14 stone, and guess who is going to win if they contest a corner? Johnsen and Stam should be picked every game, told to get on with it, and kicked up the arse when they don't. We are scoring more than 2 goals per game and that should be enough to win most games. All we need to do is concede less than two. Could we just win a couple of games?? Please ! Seamus
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Subject: Just for Christmas fun *********************************************** Top 19 Ways To Annoy Other People... *********************************************** \\\|/// \\\\ \\\// ( @ @ ) *---oOOo-(_)-oOOo--------------------------------------* 1. Leave the copy machine set to reduce 150%, dark, 17 inch paper, 99 copies. 2. In the memo field of all of your checks, write "for sensual massage". 3. Specify that your drive-through order is "to go". 4. Insist on keeping your car windshield wipers running in all weather conditions "to keep them tuned up". 5. Reply to everything someone says with "that's what YOU think". 6. Practice making fax and modem noises. 7. Highlight irrelevant information in scientific papers and "cc" them to your boss. 8. Finish all your sentences with the words "in accordance with prophecy". 9. Signal that a conversation is over by clamping your hands over your ears. 10. Adjust the tint on your TV so that all the people are green and insist to others that you "like it that way". 11. Repeat the following conversation a dozen times: "Do you hear that?" "What?" "Never mind, it's gone now." 12. As much as possible, skip rather than walk. 13. Ask people what gender they are. 14. While making presentations, occasionally bob your head like a parakeet. 15. Sit in your front yard pointing a hair dryer at passing cars to see if they slow down. 16. Sing along at the opera. 17. Go to a poetry recital and ask why each poem doesn't rhyme. 18. Ask your co-workers mysterious questions and then scribble their answers in a notebook. Mutter something about "psychological profiles". 19. Send this list to everyone in your e-mail address book even if they sent it to you or ask you not to send things like this. /( )\ \ \___ / | /- _ `-/ ' (/\/ \ \ /\ / / | ` \ O O ) / | `-^--'`< ' (_.) _ ) / `.___/` / `-----' / <----. __ / __ \ <----|====O)))==) \) /==== <----' `--' `.__,' \ | | \ \ ( (_ /\ ______| | | ,' ,-----' | `--{__________) Merry cHristmas from Barry Leeming bORN aND bRED in Oldham living in Denmark As RED as you get! ___________________ copied from a Newsgroup: Alex Ferguson and the Man U team are having a chat in the dressing room before their match against Liverpool. "OK, I know they're shite..", explains Alex, "but we have to play them to keep the FA happy". "I'll tell you what..", pipes up Keane, "You guys go down the pub and I'll play them on my own". "Seems reasonable.", replies Alex and with that they all go down the Manchester Tavern and start playing pool. After an hour or so, Yorke remembers the match and flicks to pub telly onto Ceefax: Man. Utd. 1 (Keane 10min), Liverpool 0 - is the scoreline. Very confidently they resume their pool match for the next hour until switching back to Ceefax, the final score reads: Man. Utd. 1 (Keane 10min), Liverpool 1 (Owen 89min). "WHAT!!", they exclaim and run back to Old Trafford where they find Roy sitting in the dressing room with his head in his hands. "What the hell happened, Roy?", bellows Paul Scholes. Keane sheepishly replies, "I got sent off in the 11th minute".
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From: Paul Rodes Subject: Santa's stocking stuffers Here's what I'm betting the jolly old man will have left for some of our reds this morning: Fergie: A new number two who wears his collar turned up and speaks in bizarre metaphors Becks: A FULL bottle of hair color so the poor lad can do his entire head at once :) Ronnie, Jaap, Gazza, Wes, Dinnizzz, Phizza: A pack of cards and some poker chips so they can spend some time getting used to playing together Shmikes: A strong crowwbar to pry the press off his back Keano: Keano doesn't need anything :) Giggs: A place for Wales in Euro 2000 Coley and Dwight: A tandem bicycle so they can remain joined at the hip off the pitch as well All the internationals stuck in the reserves: promotion to the Premier league so those games will mean something too (we could finish 1-2 in the league ...) Paul Scholes: A phonetic pronunciation guide to send to ESPN announcers Fartin' Martin: A prosthetic spine so he can pretend he has one Rupert Murdoch: A lump of coal, of course, just like every year. Of course, those are just my guesses. Feel free to add your own. Merry Christmas to everyone celebrating Christmas out there. And best wishes to those celebrating Ramadan (did I spell that right?) or Hannukah (just over) or any other such observances. Paul Hoosier Red
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Subject: Re: Two answers by Our Salford Lass At 10:54 24/12/98 -0800, Tony Smith asked: >What was the most depressing result in United's history? It might not have been the most depressing result in history, but it was certainly the most depressing result in recent years for me. I only need say one word - Fenerbahce (sp?). I have rarely been more depressed after a game as I was when I left OT that night and I have never heard a United crowd make so little noise leaving the stadium. It was eerie - 25,000 people leaving the North Stand and hardly a sound. Everyone just walking, lost in their own thoughts. Our proud European record lost - not to a great European side like Real Madrid or Juventus, but to a team we should have beaten without breaking sweat. The other game that came immediately to mind from recent years, was the West Ham game when we lost the league to Blackburn. That one was made worse because I had been prepared to lose - I really expected Blackburn to stuff Liverpool. I couldn't get a ticket and I listened at home on the radio. If all had gone to plan I would have been sad, but not inconsolable, as I said I was prepared. But then bloody Choccy scored and gave us hope, the scousers were doing their bit, and I stared to think perhaps we could do it. So at the end of the game, the disappointment and depression was all the worse - I just sat there, with tears running down my cheeks, hardly able to believe that we came so close. Must go now and resume the begging letters to Father Christmas - "All I want for Christmas is a certain Frenchman" (Dreaming of the sexiest midfield in the world - oops, I think I'm just a little drunk)
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rom: "Tony Smith" Subject: Two answers from Tony I asked a couple of questions a few days ago, and promised to post the answers. A few list members wrote to me privately - thanks to them for that. First, which current United player has also played for Aldershot and Djurgarden in Sweden? The answer is Teddy Sheringham. I was unaware of his Swedish spell till I read his book last week. It was an interesting read, in fact, and shed some light on last season. He was refreshingly honest about his failure to win over the United fans and even the other United players. If anyone read Barney's excellent interview with Teddy in Red News recently they will have heard Sheringham speak in these terms already. Second, I asked what was the most depressing result in United's history. I listed a few that had depressed me, and a few other nightmares were also suggested. I know there's no such thing as THE most depressing result, but I was wondering if anyone would mention Partisan Belgrade in 1966. Though I was a little boy at the time, and too young to understand, it has often seemed to me that on that night United looked as though they would never win the European Cup. The team was at its peak, it had slammed Benfica away in the quarters, and it had a relatively easy semi (on paper). Yet it all went wrong, as we lost 2-0 away and won just 1-0 at home. Were you there that night? How did it compare with other disappointments? Did you feel that Busby was destined never to win the biggy? Merry Christmas to everyone, Tony (c) 1998
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