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Date: Sun Oct 25 05:12:28 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
3. Derby-United Telly Report
4. Derby v Man United 24/10/98 3.00
5. Don't forget Cole, says Yorke 
6. MEN Article on Goalscoring Giggs
7. Wes Starts Again (PA)
8. Giggsy Set For Greatness (Mirror)
9. Wes Brown (Mirror)


Daily RED Trivia  Sun 25th October:

25/10/1932: Harry Gregg born in County Derry. Gregg cost £25,000 from Doncaster Rovers             
 and made his debut against Leicester City in December 1957. He was one of  the heroes
 of the Munich  Air Disaster and played in the 1958 FA Cup Final. The Ulsterman played           
 247 times in goal for the Reds between 1957-1966,  and took part in the 1958 World               
 Cup Finals in Sweden with Northern Ireland with whom he won 25 caps. Gregg
 moved to Stoke City in December 1966, later managing Shrewsbury Town, Swansea
 Town, Crewe Alexandra and Carlisle United.

25/10/1997: United thrash Barnsley 7-0 at Old Trafford in a Premiership game watched by
 55,142. Andy Cole 3, Ryan Giggs 2, Paul Scholes and Karel Poborksy scored the
 goals. Team was: Schmeichel, Curtis, G.Neville, P.Neville, Scholes (Cruyff),
 Pallister (Wallwork), Beckham, Butt, Cole, Solskjaer (Poborsky), Giggs. 


Barry Daily Comment:  

We made a draw today but after 11 goals in 2 matches we should
all be happy. Jordi on the score sheet!
Brondby personal match report final part 3/3 tomorrow.


Next 4 games: 
Result/Fixture Index:

Wed 28/10 Bury      (H) LC (Worthington Cup)
Sat 31/10 Everton   (A) PL 
Wed  4/11 Brondby   (H) CL 19.45
Sun  8/11 Newcastle (H) PL
Wed 11/11 L.Cup 4th round?
Sat 14/11 Blackburn (H)  PL

UNITED Stats v Derby are here:


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867

Champions league: 21/10             
Brondby 2-6 Man Utd
Bayern  1-0 Barcelona
Table as at 21/10:
    GROUP D P  W  D  L  GF  GA  Pts 
ManUnited   3  1  2  0   11  7  5     Next "CL" Match
BMünchen    3  1  1  1   4   5  4   Man Utd v Brondby OT 4/11
Barcelona   3  1  1  1   5   4  4 
Brøndby     3  1  0  2   2   9  3 


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Subject: *** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 24/10/98 *** Aston Villa 1-1 Leicester City 39,241 Charlton Athletic 4-2 West Ham United 20,043 Derby County 1-1 Manchester United 30,867 Liverpool 5-1 Nottingham Forest 44,595 Sheffield Wednesday 0-0 Everton 26,592 Southampton 2-1 Coventry City 15,152 Tottenham Hotspur 2-0 Newcastle United 36,047 Wimbledon 2-2 Middlesbrough 14,114 *** FULL LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 24/10/98 *** Pos Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD Pts ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Aston Villa 10 4 1 0 8 2 2 3 0 3 1 8 22 2 Manchester United 9 4 1 0 15 4 1 2 1 4 4 11 18 3 Liverpool 10 2 3 0 11 5 2 1 2 7 6 7 16 4 Middlesbrough 10 2 3 0 9 4 2 1 2 7 7 5 16 5 Chelsea 8 3 2 0 7 3 1 1 1 6 6 4 15 6 Arsenal 9 3 2 0 9 2 0 3 1 1 2 6 14 7 Newcastle United 10 3 1 1 9 5 1 1 3 6 8 2 14 8 Tottenham Hotspur 10 2 1 2 7 10 2 1 2 5 6 -4 14 9 Charlton Athletic 10 2 1 1 11 5 1 3 2 6 9 3 13 10 Derby County 10 2 2 1 4 2 1 2 2 4 5 1 13 11 Leicester City 10 2 2 1 6 4 1 2 2 4 6 0 13 12 West Ham United 10 2 2 1 6 5 1 2 2 3 7 -3 13 13 Wimbledon 10 2 2 1 9 7 1 2 2 6 11 -3 13 14 Leeds United 9 2 1 1 4 1 0 5 0 5 5 3 12 15 Everton 10 0 4 1 0 1 2 2 1 6 5 0 12 16 Sheffield Wednesday 10 2 1 2 4 2 1 0 4 4 8 -2 10 17 Blackburn Rovers 9 2 1 1 7 4 0 1 4 2 8 -3 8 18 Coventry City 10 2 1 2 5 8 0 1 4 2 8 -9 8 19 Nottingham Forest 10 1 2 2 2 4 1 0 4 5 12 -9 8 20 Southampton 10 1 1 3 5 9 0 1 4 1 14 -17 5
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Subject: 365 Report DERBY COUNTY 1 MANCHESTER UNITED 1 Jordi Cruyff continued his Old Trafford renaissance when he came off the substitutes' bench to snatch a point. Lacklustre United were heading towards a surprise defeat at Pride Park after Deon Burton gave Derby a 74th minute lead. But United boss Alex Ferguson went for broke when he sent on Cruyff along with Jesper Blomqvist and Paul Scholes in a triple substitution nine minutes from time and the switch paid off. Cruyff had been on the pitch for only four minutes when he shot past Russell Hoult and into the far corner to haul United level. The goal was the Dutchman's second of the month and further evidence of his return to form after a nightmare run of injuries and loss of form. After United had put Wimbledon and Brondby to the sword in such spectacular fashion in their last two games, Derby were expected to come like Rams to the slaughter. Ferguson's men had banged in 11 goals in those two wins, while Derby had lost their last three on the bounce. Manager Jim Smith responded by handing Burton his first start of the campaign, while skipper Igor Stimac returned to bolster their shaky defence. But Derby have been far from soft touches for United in the last couple of seasons, having now lost only once in their last five meetings. With David Beckham and Nicky Butt back after suspension, Ferguson had almost a full hand to pick from. Kick-off was delayed 15 minutes because of traffic congestion and when the game did start, Stefan Schnoor blundered to present Dwight Yorke with a second-minute chance, but the German recovered to deflect the striker's shot away for a corner. Schnoor was then booked for a foul on Beckham on the halfway line on ten minutes, although the England midfielder was booed by the home fans who felt he had dived. Derby threatened for the first time in the 20th minute and Sturridge had a shot deflected wide before Stimac went close from the resultant corner. The impressive Wes Brown fired narrowly over the bar from 20 yards before Butt also went close, but Derby ended the first half on top, Schnoor blazing over when he should have done better. United were feeling the pressure and Cole was booked for not retreating at a free-kick 25 yards out and he might have been sent off when he obstructed Sturridge outside the box. Tony Dorigo made his Derby debut when he replaced the injured Jacob Laursen at half-time and the signing from Torino quickly made an impression on the game with his crosses from the left. Paulo Wanchope headed into Peter Schmeichel's arms from one delivery and, from another teasing ball, the Costa Rican went down in the box claiming he had been fouled. A Burton shot was blocked by Brown and the 19-year-old came to United's aid again when he blocked Wanchope's header at the back post. Burton latched onto Schnoor's up and under and fired just wide from the edge of the area with Gary Neville furious he had not been given offside. Darryl Powell won the ball just inside his own half and went on a great run but, after playing a one-two with Wanchope, he shot just across goal. Just as United started to get back into the game, Derby took the lead on 74 minutes that their play had deserved. Dorigo back-heeled the ball to Powell and he crossed for Burton to touch it past Schmeichel into the far corner. United then brought on Blomqvist, Cruyff and Scholes as they went for broke - and it worked as Cruyff popped up with three minutes left to secure what had looked like an unlikely point for the Ferguson's men.
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From: Terry Dale Subject: Derby-United Telly Report They showed the Dor-bee - United game as a recording, unbeknowns to me till I tuned in half way through the first half. So I haven't got a clue what happened in the first 20 minutes. This could be a blessing in disguise as the rest of the half was not exactly scintillating sexy football. The weather looked reasonable, sunshine and showers, while Pride Park seems to be a fine stadium, a sort of mini Old Trafford, but without the pin-stripe suits and Havana cigars. A quick run through the team showed me that Butt was in and Blomqvist was out ... in hindsight, not such a great move. Wes Brown had also retained his place. At least, it looked like Wes Brown. From a distance he could have been Jaap's twin brother; close up, he looked like Ronaldo. And, just to make things really interesting, his hair (or bristles) appeared to be orange. (Maybe I need a new TV.) During the game I could almost make out a chant to the tune of 'Knees Up Mother Brown', which I suppose was meant for Wes but I couldn't make out the words. Anyone know them? Wes didn't do as well today as he's done in his previous outings. He got a bit of a roasting from Wanchope (out-tricked occasionally) and from Sturridge (out-run occasionally), but he gave a pleasing enough performance for his age and experience and should stay put for Bury in the Worth-nothing Cup, though I'd be surprised if Fergie extended his run into the next PL game. The kid deserves a rest. I think we may now see Ronny back alongside Jaap with Gazz.. (sorry) Gary Neville shifting back out right. We seemed to be suffering from our now traditional post-Euro lethargy. But Becks, as usual, was interested and made some intelligent through passes. Of course, he got a few boos from the Dor-bee herd but it all sounded a bit forced as if the yobs are just going through the motions of 'hating' him. In fact, this hate thing all seems a bit ridiculous now, given some of the events that have occurred since, like the sending-off and subsequent misbeviour of Big Time Charlie Ince in Sweden and Di Canio's warm Italian 'embrace' of the fragile Mr Allcott. Still, the mob will have their pound of flesh and Becks can cope with this sort of tame stuff. While Becks was rushing around in customary fashion, Giggs didn't seem to be too bothered at all by the afternoon's proceedings (not surprising after all the recent press hype about him). Nor were Yorke and Cole in telepathic mode as they struggled to link up with each other. Butt looked to be a yard off the pace and perhaps should have been given a reserve game or two before being sent straight back into the first team. Jaap was as dependable as ever. I love the way he isn't just a 'stopper' but always tries to play out an intelligent ball to the forwards and, usually, he's deadly accurate. The two Nevilles also did their bit without setting the stadium alight with any individualism, and Keano again was rock solid. Dor-bee weren't any better than we were and their play was also scrappy at times, with the ball pinging around like on a pin ball machine and no-one, with the possible exception of Becks, capable of controlling it to make a telling pass. So that nice Mr Durkin ('Adolf' to his friends) put us all out of our misery by ending the half. But not before he'd exercised his right arm by giving Cole an unnecessary yellow card for encroaching at a free kick. There was an amusing start to the second-half as the TV audience over here were treated to the sounds of the (Arab) commentator crashing into the commentary booth three minutes late. I even think his wristwatch alarm went off at some point during the half. Oh yes, you people who actually go to the match think you get all the excitement, eh? Not at all. It appears Fergie may have thrown a tantrum or three during the break as the lads came out with determination spread across their faces. Or was it blood? (Fergie doesn't mince his words.) Whatever, we were treated to a Giggs shot (just wide), a long-distance Butt effort (just wide), and a near own goal (er, just wide) when a superb cross from Yorke was cut out by a Dor-bee defender. Just when I was beginning to think we might get a shot on target, Dor-bee scored. A cross came in from the left and Burton stuck out a hopeful leg which, it seems, got the slightest of touches on the ball and sent the ball into the net. I should mention at this point that Burton, like Wes, also looks like Ronaldo. Is it me, or do all young players now look like the toothy Brazilian? Are they having plastic surgery or something? After the goal, the camera focused on Fergie and, quite frankly, I was afraid to look in case he too was starting to look like Ronaldo. I needn't have worried. It was Fergie all right, his iron jaws mashing his gum to a helpless pulp while Kiddo sat tight-lipped next to him looking a little constipated. They weren't happy. Time to take some drastic action, Fergie, and, no, I don't mean taking out another piece of gum. So, he made three changes: G. Neville, Butty and Giggs went off and Jordi, Jesper and Paul 'For-God's-sake-score-some-goals' Scholes came on. There was an instant reaction as the pace of our attack dramatically increased with Jesper and Jordi attacking down the wings and everyone else deciding they might as well be bold as well. We pressed Dor-bee back and were rewarded on 84 minutes when Jordi slotted a nice low, left-footed shot into the net after good play from Stam, Brown (I think) and Yorke, who made the final pass. At this pregant point, viewers here were treated to an ad for the forthcoming Blackburn - Arsenal game and another ad for Nissan cars. Great timing. I ground my teeth thinking we were going to miss United's winner till it dawned on me that I was watching a recording and I already knew the result. Anyway, when play resumed, United did indeed almost score a winner. A superbly flighted cross from the right fell to Yorke's head but he couldn't quite control it, mainly because Andy Cole had put him off by leaping for the same ball just in front of him. I mention this only because you may remember Andy's recent comment after the Brondby euphoria that he and Yorke never get in each other's way. Ahem, quite. It seems to be a fundamental law of press reporting that whatever you say to the press today, the exact opposite will happen tomorrow. So the game ended 1-1. Not a bad result as Villa also drew, but I suppose there is some cause for concern about our away form in the PL (4 games, 1 win, 4 goals scored), especially the fact that Yorke never seems to do all that well when he's away from the comfort and wide-open spaces of Old Trafford. Also, with all the power of hindsight, it seems that Fergie should have put Jordi or Jesper (or both) on a bit sooner than he did, or perhaps even started Jesper in place of Butty. Certainly, the late arrival of those two had a significant effect on the course of game. And so I'm off out, wondering anxiously if there any more Ronaldos out there. ___________ Terry Saudi
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Subject: Derby v Man United 24/10/98 3.00 Derby (0) 1 Man United (0) 1 FT Burton 74 Cruyff 86 David Beckham's unpopularity with the Derby fans plunged to a new low when Stefan Schnoor was booked for a foul on the Manchester United midfielder in the FA Carling Premiership clash at Pride Park. The Derby faithful were convinced he had dived and booed him each time he touched the ball for the remainder of the first half. The fans saw little to excite them in the opening 45 minutes and the best thing that happened was when it stopped raining. Derby were given an extra 15 minutes to try to figure out how to stop rampant Manchester United after the kick-off at Pride Park was delayed because of traffic congestion. United have banged in 11 goals in their last two games, while Derby have lost their last three matches. The Rams, though, went into the game boasting a record of just one defeat in their last four league encounters with Alex Ferguson's men. Derby captain Igor Stimac returned and Deon Burton made his first start of the campaign, while Tony Dorigo was among the substitutes after joining from Torino. Beckham and Nicky Butt returned after suspension and Paul Scholes and Jesper Blomqvist dropped down to the bench, while Ryan Giggs shrugged off a reported hamstring injury to start. Schnoor made a mistake on the greasy surface to present Dwight Yorke with a chance in the second minute, but the German recovered to deflect the striker's shot away for a corner. Dean Sturridge tried to weave his way into the United box only to run into Wes Brown, who won the ball and cleared the danger. Sturridge tried again against Brown on the left and this time he won a corner off the England Under-21 international, but United cleared Lee Carsley's inswinger. Schnoor's was the first name into the referee's book for a foul on Beckham on the halfway line on 10 minutes. The England midfielder was booed by the home fans who felt he had dived. Phil Neville played a corner short to Beckham who whipped a shot over the bar from an acute angle. United won a free-kick 25 yards out in front of goal for shirt-tugging by Jacob Laursen, but Beckham shot into the wall before hitting the rebound wide. Derby finally threatened the United goal and Sturridge saw a deflected shot drop just wide and from the resultant corner Stimac headed past the post. Laursen had to come off the pitch for a couple of minutes as he received treatment after hurting his right ankle. Butt eluded a sliding challenge from Paulo Wanchope to set up Wes Brown who fired a 20-yard drive just over the bar. Peter Schmeichel then dropped Wanchope's cross from the left, but United hacked the ball clear before Derby could capitalise. Butt was not far away with a shot which went just past the post on 36 minutes. Schnoor should have done better four minutes later when Burton set him up eight yards out on the left only for the defender to blaze over the bar. Cole was booked for not retreating for a Derby free-kick 25 yards out from goal and when Schnoor eventually took the set-piece he shot against the wall. Cole might have been sent off when he obstructed Sturridge outside the box just before half-time. Derby: Hoult, Schnoor, Powell, Stimac, Sturridge, Wanchope, Delap, Laursen (Dorigo, 46), Prior, Carsley, Burton. Subs not used: Poom, Carbonari, Elliot, Baiano. Booked: Schnoor, Powell. Man United: Schmeichel, G. Neville (Scholes, 81), Stam, Beckham, Butt (Blomqvist, 81), Cole, Giggs (Cruyff, 81), P. Neville, Keane, Yorke, Brown. Subs not used: Van Der Gouw, Berg. Booked: Cole, G. Neville. Attendance: 30,867. Referee: P Durkin (Portland, Dorset).
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Subject: Don't forget Cole, says Yorke Saturday, October 24, 1998 Dwight Yorke last night praised strike partner Andy Cole for having battled back from the Old Trafford axe. At Derby this afternoon, the Manchester United pair will be looking to continue a devastating run that has brought seven goals in three games. Yet Cole was forced to wait on the sidelines after Yorke joined United from Aston Villa for £12.6million shortly after the start of the season. Yorke said: 'Andy was top scorer here with 26 goals last season and was unlucky to be out of the side. He doesn't get as much credit as he deserves. People talk about his pace but he is more skilful and there is more to his game than some seem to think.' Cole has had to compete with Teddy Sheringham and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer but seems to have sealed his place with five goals so far this season while Yorke has picked up seven. Yorke added: 'Everybody is talking about Andy and me but the fact is there is so much quality here. All these guys have been through it before and know what it takes to win. It's a new feeling for me but I'm enjoying every minute of it.'
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Subject: MEN Article on Goalscoring Giggs HERO ACE GIGGS CLOSES ON GOALSCORING LEGEND LAW'S PROUD RECORD REPORT BY PAUL HINCE WING wizard Ryan Giggs is set to be crowned Manchester United's King of Europe . . . as a goal-scorer. The double strike against Brondby on Wednesday night has taken the goal tally for the brilliant Welsh international in European Cup matches up to nine to take him level with legendary George Best. And Giggs - incredibly still only 25 - needs only five more Champions' League goals to equal United's scoring record in the competition, held by Denis Law. ``I had no idea I was level with George Best,'' admitted Giggs as he took a break from signing copies of his new book ``Chasing Perfection'' at Waterstone's book shop in Manchester city centre. ``To be even mentioned in the same breath as United legends like Best and Denis Law is an honour in itself.'' Giggs is honest enough to admit that his Champions' League goal-tally should already be in double figures after scorning a second half chance to complete his hat-trick on Wednesday night. ``I think it was a bit of a misunderstanding between me and Paul Scholes,'' he says. ``But it would have been lovely to have come off with a hat-trick under my belt. ``I took a bit of a knock in the first half and I knew that the boss was going to bring me off later in the game. ``But even though I was expecting it, I was still disappointed when my number came up. It is not too often that I have got myself in a position to take the match-ball.'' Although manager Ferguson and his players could never have envisaged their record-breaking away victory in the Champions' League, Giggs revealed that the confidence of the Old Trafford team was at sky-high level when they travelled to Copenhagen. ``The five goals we put past Wimbledon last Saturday did wonders for our confidence,'' he adds. ``The best thing about Wednesday night's result is that our Champions' League destiny is now in our own hands.'' IF they had their way United's internet fans would leave out England stars Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes from the team to face Derby tomorrow. The fans' team is: Schmeichel, G. Neville, Stam, Irwin, Brown, Beckham, Keane, Blomqvist, Giggs, Cole and Yorke. City supporters XI is: Weaver, Allsopp, Fenton, Tiatto, Wiekens, Mason, Brown, Horlock, Dickov, Goater, Bradbury. Perhaps they didn't realise that Pollock is available again after suspension. (Dave) Perhaps they have never heard of him. The rest are all no-names
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Subject: Wes Starts Again (PA) WES GETS A FIRST TEAM HAT-TRICK Manchester United's latest teenage discovery will start his third successive game on Saturday as Alex Ferguson takes his in-form side to Pride Park for the Premiership clash with Derby. Wes Brown the 19-year-old local lad who gave man-of-the match performances against Wimbledon and Brondby has been told he's in the starting line-up again even though Fergie plans a switch. David Beckham and Nicky Butt both return after missing Wednesday's Champions' League game in Copenhagen because of suspension, and Butt ends a personal nightmare of two dismissals after also being ruled out of last weekend's Premiership action. Ferguson is likely to bring in Beckham at the expense of Jesper Blomqvist with Ryan Giggs returning to his normal role on the left. Butt could find himself on the bench unless the United boss decides to rest Paul Scholes after Wednesday's European victory in the heavy conditions in Copenhagen. Brown will play at right full back once again as Gary Neville continues to partner Jaap Stam at the centre of the defence. Ronny Johnsen and David May are both fit again after recent injuries and could be added to the squad but Denis Irwin and Teddy Sheringham are ruled out because neither has resumed training after being side-lined for the past fortnight. Manchester United (from): Schmeichel, Brown, Stam, G Neville, P Neville, Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Butt, Giggs, Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer, Blomqvist, Berg, Cruyff, Johnsen, May, Wilson, van der Gouw. © PA Sporting Life
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Subject: Giggsy Set For Greatness (Mirror) SAVING PRIVATE RYAN Even his face is aerodynamic. High cheekbones frame eyes set deep and the nose comes to a delicate point. Were the features designed in a wind-tunnel they could not be better set. Ryan Giggs is indeed a remarkable specimen. At 24 the Manchester United icon is firmly established in the pantheon of Old Trafford greats. His book, Chasing Perfection, may already be out of date judging by his exquisite contribution in Copenhagen on Wednesday, including two goals neither of which required the use of his left foot. Giggs' credibility and status as a superstar of the modern game is underpinned by a stack of medals - the like of which few can boast - the respect of his peers at home and abroad, and queues at a Manchester book store this week which trailed halfway down Deansgate. His languid, balletic talent has assumed greater importance in the post-Cantona period. It was no coincidence that United's Championship challenge began to wane in the six weeks he was absent last season. Roy Keane was missed but not as badly as Giggs. The role of talisman sits comfortably on shoulders slender yet strong. Seven years at the cutting edge of the United dream factory have enhanced rather than diminished what is essentially a sensitive soul. Giggs, despite the odd hiccup, has grown into a fairly well-adjusted, balanced young man. He is football's Millennium man. Modesty forbids glowing self-appraisal and a guarded personality keeps his inner-most thoughts locked deep. He is not wholly comfortable talking about himself but he accepts his part of the role that fate has handed him. "I'm aware of my importance to the supporters of United. I have a special relationship with them. I grew up here from the age of seven. I'm a local lad who knows what it is like to shout from the terraces," said Giggs. "I'm a United fan. I watched the likes of Robson, Hughes and Whiteside from the Stretford End. I know how much it hurts when the team loses. How much we the players influence the mood in the town. That is a big responsibility. And one I take seriously. "I have always realised we have a responsibility to do well. Not just for ourselves as players but for the people who pay their money week in week out. "It is an honour and a privilege to play for this club. I've never forgotten about that." Indeed not, evident by the serious hard labour endured for upwards of an hour on Thursday afternoon signing books by the hundred. Never once did he complain despite arriving home in the early hours and reporting for training beforehand. Book shops are not Giggs' natural habitat. That said, his second edition to the burgeoning literary genre - sporting autobiographies - is a creditable effort, beautifully presented and well written. It does, however, have a major flaw. It fails to communicate his sense of humour. According to former team-mate Ben Thornley, now at Huddersfield, Giggs is only a fez short of Tommy Cooper. "No-one believes me when I tell them this. They think Ryan is super serious, but he's not," said Thornley. "He's better than Tommy Cooper at keeping his face straight while delivering a one-liner. He cracks everybody up in the dressing-room." Giggs declined when asked to give an example for his repertoire, admitting only that when the mickey-taking starts it does so with him. Seven years on from his debut, Giggs is a rich man - a millionaire with wealth enough to buy a pile in the country, top of the range Porsche and a home for mum, Lynn, who remains a force in his life. The same is not so of his father, who brought the family north 17 years ago when he signed pro for Swinton Rugby League Club. "I don't see much of my dad," said Giggs, eyes alert as if to forbid further probing. "He lives back in Wales. He is no longer a big part of my life." Though Lynn played league baseball in Wales, it is his father from whom Giggs inherited the major part of his athletic gifts - speed and balance. In full flow he is one of the most awesome sights in world football. How foolish the journalist from The Times must feel three years after putting his name to an article explaining why Giggs would never be a great player. For some he was never anything else. "I remember his first game for Salford Boys Under-11s," said Thornley. "I was only 10 and playing for the B team. Ryan had missed the trials so the coach couldn't pick him for the A team. All he said was: 'this is Ryan he'll be playing on the left wing today'." The match was against Bootle, formidable even at 11 as teams from Merseyside tend to be. "Nobody fancied it," said Thornley. "They all seemed older and bigger than us. I'm sure they had already started shaving. "The A team got beat. We went on straight after fearing the worst. I don't know why. We won 8-1. Ryan scored six. A double hat-trick on his debut. He was all elbows and knees but even then it was obvious he was different class." Six years later Giggs achieved his life-long ambition when he pulled on the cherry red shirt of United. The fortunes of both player and team have risen inexorably since, with only the European Cup eluding their grasp. Not for much longer if the display in Denmark is any guide. For Giggs, like his manager Alex Ferguson, landing the Holy Grail is almost all that matters. "Money doesn't motivate me now. It used to when I was a teenager. As an apprentice, the win bonuses made the difference. A big difference. Money mattered then. But the more you earn, the less money motivates you, I find," explained Giggs in his book. "Having more money has the opposite effect to winning more trophies. The more trophies I win, the more I want to win trophies. "I'm not like that with the money I've earned. Players today are on good money to win games and be successful. But that doesn't mean that players try harder when the cash rewards are increased. For me, it's not about the money." Should United secure the European Cup in the near future, the name Giggs will merit mention alongside Law, Charlton and Best. Not just a great, but a legend. It is a fate his skills demand. And his nature, too. Giggs is hero material from head to toe, a leader by example and deed. The one who can make a difference. Cantona was such a player and it is the Frenchman's mantle that Giggs is beginning to assume. A more fitting successor the King could not have. "I have the chance to make history, to be remembered the same way as the great players of Manchester United,'' added Giggs. "Eric will always be remembered like that. If I can do the same at the end of my career, I'll be happy." And perfectly so, no doubt.
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Subject: Wes Brown (Mirror) WES JOINS THE OWEN GLORY TRAIL By Steve Millar Wes Brown was educated in the same soccer academy as England and Liverpool sensation Michael Owen. And now the 19-year-old Manchester United defender is being tipped to graduate with a similar brilliant pass mark. Brown, born in the Blue side of Manchester but nicked from underneath City's noses, has impressed in the 11-goal battering of Wimbledon and Brondby. Brown based his game on that of Steve Bruce and Gary Pallister. Bruce, now boss of Sheffield United, said: "If he's saying he's modelled himself on me I'm very pleased. "I think the way he's been playing I should have modelled myself on him! We all knew when we first saw Wes that he was an exciting talent. A natural. He sticks out from the rest because of his stature. "He is clearly a wonderful natural athlete. His temperament and composure are superb. "Wes is a footballer who can go on and play at any level. It's not going to faze him. When you play at Old Trafford you know all about that. "I was so impressed with him in the game against Brondby and my mates who saw him play in the Wimbledon game told me that United had once more discovered an unbelievable talent." Another former Old Trafford colleague, Huddersfield's Ben Thornley, said: "Wes is a quiet lad but when I saw him play for the first time in United's reserves last season, I knew then that it wouldn't be long before he was playing in the first team. "He reminds so much of Paul McGrath. Nothing troubles him. He's quick, good in the air and reads the game well." Brown himself is delighted to have settled so quickly into the slip stream of his pal Owen. He tells Match magazine: "I was in the same age group at Lilleshall as Michael for two years. His success hasn't been a surprise to anyone who knows him. "We always knew he would be top class and in the international team one day. I am still learning but as a United fan I model myself on the likes of Gary Pallister. Steve Bruce too. They are both top-class defenders. I am now hungry for more experience."
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