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Date: Wed Dec 23 07:01:54 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. UNITED DUO BANNED FOR BORO CLASH 
2. Fergie could go for upwardly mobile Moyes
3. THE 365 CHRISTMAS Q & A: RYAN GIGGS 
4. PRESTON DETERMINED TO KEEP MOYES 
5. Let's fill up Beasant's sack on Boxing Day
6. Re: Two questions
7. Manchester United Reserves + Junior Teams Pontins/FA Premier Academy U-17/U-19
8. Re: Self fulfilling prophecy    by "Our Salford Lass"

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Daily RED Trivia  Wed 23rd December 1998:

23/12/1911: United beat Bolton Wanderers 2-0 at Old Trafford in a Division 1 game
 watched by 20,000. Harold Halse and Sandy Turnbull scored the goals. Team
 was: Edmonds, Linkson, Stacey, Duckworth, Roberts, Bell, Meredith, Halse,
 West, Turnbull, Wall.

1962: Terry Gibson born in Walthamstow. Signed from Coventry City for £600,000,
 Gibson made his debut at Liverpool in February 1986. The diminuitive striker
 scored just 1 goal in 27 appearances between 1986-87 before moving on to  Wimbledon. 

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Barry Daily Comment:
Enjoy the Ryan Giggs interview in todays news bulletin!
Have a RED Christmas
 
http://www.iol.ie/~redcafe/kidd.htm
Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio


Remaining 1998 games: 

ALL Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm

Sat 26/12 Nottm Forest  (H) PL 15.00
Tue 29/12 Chelsea       (A) PL sky sports time 19.45 UK


UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/

*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED  ***

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
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15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds                    Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlebrough             Home     L  2-3     3    55,152


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Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich

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CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE QUARTER-FINAL DRAW
 Manchester Utd    v   Inter Milan
 Real Madrid       v   Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus          v   Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich     v   Kaiserslautern

 Ties to be played on March 3 and 17

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"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

BREAKING NEWS - Tuesday 22 December 1998 Subject: UNITED DUO BANNED FOR BORO CLASH David Beckham has joined Gary Neville in the sin bin for Manchester United's FA Cup third-round clash with Middlesbrough at Old Trafford. Beckham will sit out the tie on January 3 because he will be serving a one-match ban after he picked up his fifth booking of the season, ironically in the 3-2 defeat against Boro on Saturday. Neville had already been ruled out of the game after he went past the five cautions mark when he was shown the yellow card against Chelsea last week. The England defender is also banned for United's Boxing Day match against Nottingham Forest at Old Trafford, following his sending off at Tottenham on December 12. Meanwhile Preston are refusing to comment on reports which claim Deepdale boss David Moyes is been lined up by Alex Ferguson to become his new assistant manager. ____________________________ More.............. Suspensions Reds' cruel Yule! BY STUART MATHIESON BALANCING ACT . . . David Beckham in action on Saturday MANCHESTER United are set for a double FA Cup blow with the loss of David Beckham and Gary Neville through suspension. United will have to avenge Saturday's 3-2 Premiership defeat by Middlesbrough in the Cup at Old Trafford on January 3 without their two England internationals. Two yellow cards in a week against Spurs and Boro have brought Beckham's cautions up to five this term which will trigger an automatic one game ban once it is confirmed by the FA, under their new disciplinary procedure. Saturday's booking means he's set to miss the third round of the FA Cup. Gary Neville will join him following his booking against Chelsea last midweek. Neville was sent off at Spurs last weekend and will miss the Boxing Day game with Nottingham Forest this Saturday but his caution against Chelsea has now added a further one match suspension. Jim Ryan was elevated on Saturday against Middlesbrough from his job as stand-in assistant to first team boss due to a family bereavement in Alex Ferguson's family. Fergie was in Scotland with his brother Martin, who is United's European scout, following the death of Martin's wife. The Reds' manager is not expected to be make a decision on the man who'll replace Brian Kidd as his new No 2 until well into the New Year but Ryan won't be disappointed if he goes back to his old role as reserve team manager. ``I am enjoying being the assistant but I am not worked up about it one way or another,'' says Jim. ``I think the reserve job I do, is quite important and the boss thinks I am capable of doing it and he has to consider a lot of other factors. The reserves and Academy teams are leading their leagues at the moment so you have to be mindful of the disruption to them.'' Meanwhile, Blackburn Rovers have denied reports that they've made a £7m bid for United midfielder Nicky Butt.
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: Fergie could go for upwardly mobile Moyes Tuesday, December 22, 1998 Preston's emerging manager Dave Moyes is the surprise name being considered by Manchester United boss Alex Ferguson as his new No.2 at Old Trafford. Ferguson was stunned by former assistant Brian Kidd's move to Blackburn and says he will take his time in appointing a replacement. He has compiled a short-list and Moyes is believed to be on it. Moyes - a Scot like Ferguson - caused a few raised eyebrows when he was named Preston's manager in January following the departure of Gary Peters. Moyes had worked his way up through the coaching ranks at Deepdale to become Peters' assistant. Yet, Second Division Preston appeared to favour a big name as their new boss, with Welsh international Ian Rush among the stars being courted. Instead, Preston turned to Moyes and they have not looked back since. He has rejuvenated the famous Lancashire club's fortunes and turned them from relegation fodder into promotion contenders with a series of impressive performances that have lifted them to fourth place in Division Two. His coaching skills have caught the eye of Ferguson and insiders at Preston are bracing themselves for an approach from Old Trafford. Preston will soon be in the headlines for other reasons when Double holders Arsenal begin their defence of the FA Cup at Deepdale in the third round next month. Ferguson is currently operating with United reserve team coach Jimmy Ryan as his No.2 and the former winger was left in complete charge for Saturday's 3-2 home defeat by Middlesbrough with Fergie absent because of a family bereavement. But Ryan is thought to be happier working with the younger players, helping to maintain the flow of brilliant talent through the club. That leaves Ferguson still searching for Kidd's replacement and he could surprise everyone by going for Moyes, a name not widely known in Premiership circles. While Ferguson's own contract at Old Trafford has another 18 months to run, his natural successor - United old boy Bryan Robson - is under lock and key at Middlesbrough. Robson recently signed a lucrative five-year agreement at the Riverside, with his assistant Viv Anderson ready to follow suit. And he feels a bond of loya
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: THE 365 CHRISTMAS Q & A: RYAN GIGGS Giggs On Injuries, The Reason He'd Rather Play For Wales Than England (Honest) And Why It's Time For United To Stop The Excuses And Win The Champions League He's no longer Old Trafford's most talked-about player, or even its No.1 heart-throb (these days it's Nicky Butt, of course) but the Welsh winger is arguably the most vital cog in Manchester United's New Year assaults on the Premiership and Champions League. Football365 met a man determined to put niggling injury behind him and bring back the silverware and the certainty to a newly self-doubting club... You've had a bit of a stop-start season so far, Ryan. Niggly injuries have held you back a bit... It's been frustrating. I've been lucky inasmuch as I haven't had any serious injuries, touch wood, but I've picked up things that have kept me out for three or four weeks. Once you're out of your stride, it makes it hard to get match fitness back again. It's not too hard in the first couple of games because you're really glad to be back, you're keen and the adrenaline will get you through. But a couple of games in you start lagging a bit and you tend to lose a bit of your sharpness. So what can you do about it? Not a lot, really. I had problems with my hamstring last season. It started off with me just missing a game here and there, but in the end I pulled it completely and was out for about six weeks. That's probably the worst injury I've had. But to prevent it you've just got to keep stretching every day, which I do. You've been plagued by hamstring trouble. Do you think it's anything to do with your style of play? I do. It's two things, really. Both the way I play and the way I'm built make me more prone to hamstring injuries than other people. It's because I do so many sprints in a game. I'm making box-to-box runs from defence to attack all the time so yeah, I'm probably more prone to injury than players in a lot of other positions. So the speed thing's the real problem? Yes - and the lack of recovery time when you're playing Wednesdays and Saturdays. Every game's important now and with Champions League matches on top that's a lot of pressure on your body. So yes, it is hard. You missed out on the most important games in the Champions League last season through injury. How frustrating was that? Very frustrating. You always want to play, and I've hated being out of action this season. But it's not as bad if the team is winning and this time we've been getting good results. Last year was disappointing. We had a break from December to March in the Champions League, so I was gutted to get the injury a couple of weeks before things started up again. When you have been playing though, your form's been good, hasn't it? I've been quite happy with it over the last couple of years. I think my game's developed a lot more, which I suppose it's bound to do with experience. Even though I've been for playing six or seven years I'm still a young lad and playing in a few different positions over the last couple of years has been good for me. It's the same with anyone in any job. The more experienced you get, the better you become. What about the players around you? How good is the current side compared to the other United teams you've played in? I think potentially it could be the best team I've ever been involved with. Individually we've probably got better players than we've ever had. It's just up to us to turn those skills into a team performance. It's always hard when you get two or three new players coming in over the summer. It usually takes a while for them to blend in. Look at Liverpool. They've got quality players, but you need your quality players to work as a team. Getting that blend is the key. Truthfully, I think the best team I've ever played in up to now was the 1994 team, but I think this side has the potential to be better. We've got the talent and we're still very young too. How much has Dwight Yorke added to the side? Oh a lot, definitely. He's settled really quickly. Because he's a striker people are always going to look at how many goals he's scored, so it's been good for him that he's done so well on that score. But that's not all he's contributed. He's made goals as well. And he seems to have a great personality... He's very Caribbean, laid back. Just chilled really. Nothing bothers him. A couple of weeks ago he got hit full in the face with the ball and he still got up smiling. That's just the way he is. He's good to have around. Is there more determination in the side to win something this season after last year's disappointment of ending up with nothing? We're always determined, but this season is definitely a test of character. We've more or less dominated over the last six years, but when we have lost the title - to Blackburn, Leeds and Arsenal - we've always bounced back the next year and done well. It's a test of character for this side to see if we can come back and win the league, but I think that kind of test will be good for us. Youhave dominated the domestic game over the last few years, but the European Cup still eludes you... That's true, but I don't see any reason why we can't win it this time. In the last couple of years we've had injuries which affected us, but this time we've really got a strong squad of players. We've got two or three people in each position now, so we can't make any excuses about not having a big enough squad or about injuries. We should go all the way really. You believe it's time for United to put aside the excuses, then? I think it is. We've got everything in our favour. A lot of the young lads who came in a few years ago now play for England, so they've got valuable experience. The players who've come in - Jaap Stam and Jesper Blomqvist - have got experience of playing in Europe too. So we're as well prepared as anyone. You mentioned the England lads there. A lot of people, of course, wish that you were wearing the white of England rather than the red of Wales. Well that's as maybe, but I want to play for Wales. I want to play for Wales and I want to qualify for major championships just like anyone else. More than anyone else. I think if anyone watched me play for Wales they'd see how much I want to play for my country. Captaining my country has been one of the highlights of my career There's no bigger honour. But don't you ever feel frustrated at international level? Realistically Wales will always be also-rans... It's tough and it's getting harder all the time for countries like Wales. The way that teams are seeded these days means we're getting put in groups with teams like Denmark, Italy and Switzerland, all top nations. If we get a few injuries we haven't got the resources of other countries. Mind you though, if we can put our best side out, then we've got a team that's capable of beating anyone. Is English domestic football getting stronger? I think it is. When you have quality players like Bergkamp, Stam and Zola in the league, then things can't help but improve. And it still looks as if good young lads are coming through. There are a lot of youngsters getting into the England squad these days, so it's a healthy situation all round. There are always plenty of young lads coming through at Old Trafford too. Do you ever feel under pressure for your place? Yeah. I've never taken it for granted that I'm going to be playing. You go on form. The last couple of years I've felt like I've deserved to play every time, but now that Jesper Blomqvist's here, a real left winger, there's real competition. In the last couple of years we haven't had a left winger, apart from Ben Thornley who left last year, so there's a little bit of added pressure now. If you have two or three bad games, then someone's there ready to take your place. So with that kind of strength in depth, are United capable of lifting two or three trophies this season? I think that's difficult. To do that you need an element of luck, especially in cup games. In the last couple of years we've been beaten by Barnsley and Wimbledon in cup competitions. Anyone can beat you on the day. I think it's more realistic to look at the League and the Champions League. I'd love to do well in the Champions League, to go all the way this year. And after getting beaten by Arsenal for the title last season, I really want to prove that we're still the best and win the League again.
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: PRESTON DETERMINED TO KEEP MOYES Preston will block any moves by Manchester United to take manager David Moyes to Old Trafford as Alex Ferguson's new right-hand man. North End chairman Bryan Gray revealed there has been no contact from United following reports claiming Moyes was on Ferguson's short-list. Gray is determined to hold on to Moyes, who has turned the Second Division club around during his 11-month reign at Deepdale, and claims he would rebuff any approach. ''I would not agree to it but I think we're talking about things which are hypothetical,'' he said. ''There has been no contact, and I'm not expecting any from them to be honest. It's flattering for David, but there's nothing happening." Moyes reportedly thought it was a joke when he was told about the speculation - “I know nothing about it" he said yesterday - and he would certainly be a surprise choice to fill the void left at United by Brian Kidd's departure to Blackburn. Having won a Scottish championship medal with Celtic at the start of his career, the 35-year-old, who still plays in defence for Preston reserves, has spent most of his career being successful in the lower divisions. He arrived at Preston as a player five years ago and played in two play-off campaigns and a championship-winning season before becoming assistant to Gary Peters. Like Ferguson, Moyes hails from Glasgow and although he has never worked with the United manager, he is well-known on the Scottish coaching circuit. He spent the summer with Scotland at France 98, his brother was chief scout at Rangers, he is working with three former United reserve players Preston bought from Ferguson last season and he played with David Beckham when he was on loan at Deepdale in 1995. Moyes has transformed the club, now they are riding high in fourth place in Division Two with the mouth-watering prospect of an FA Cup third-round home tie against Arsenal to look forward to in the New Year. He has done it all with virtually the same players, having sold just one player - for £500,000 - and bought another for £25,000. Acting United number two Jim Ryan, who is also the reserve team coach, remains in the frame to replace Kidd, but he appeared to rule himself out of the running when he claimed it might cause too much disruption at the club to make his appointment permanent.
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Subject: Let's fill up Beasant's sack on Boxing Day I agree with an earlier corrrespondent in that Ferguson should sort out an assistant as soon as possible. It is no coincidence that the last game we won was Leeds, when Kidd was still in situ. He was quoted as saying there was no hurry. The results in December suggest otherwise. There is an uncertainty about the club which needs to be dealt with. The takeover saga has destablised the whole ship, and much work has to be done, and fast on the playing side. Big money buys are ruled out for the forseeable future, so some disciplined defending and grafting has to be hammered out in training with the existing squad. Schmeichel is no longer commanding his area, and this is causing uncertainty in front of him. He is becoming the much-derided continental-style keeper who stays on his line when crosses come in. Whether this is due to lingering injury, lack of confidence, or the consequence of the howler in Munich I do not know. The individual errors at the back have to stop. Those who lose possession up the pitch and just stand with hands on hips, or wait for the ball to come to them instead of competing need a good rocket up the backside. George Best is not renowned for talking sense, but his misgivings of an ongoing squad rotation policy hold some water. Are the players who come in busting a gut for a regular place? Are those 'rested' fresh and willing when they return? Does the perming of the back four add to the uncertainty and lack of cohesion? It is very easy to hide behind having a big squad and cover for all positions,, but are we getting the best out of it? Nottingham Forest on Boxing Day offer a great opportunity to put things right, and hopefully with a confidence-boosting win. Paul Hinson (email p.l.hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk) http://www.red11.org The best MANCHESTER UNITED STATS on the Web http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats.htm STATISTICS http://www.red11.org/mufc/pontin.htm RESERVES AND JUNIORS
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Subject: Re: Two questions Tony Smith's two questions certainly set me thinking. I can't come up with an answer for who the ex-Aldershot player is, but I'll hazard a guess about the most depressing result. I know what my own most depressing United result was (more of that in a moment), but since Tony's obviously looking for something a bit farther back in time, I'll suggest a couple of defeats by Third Division teams from my primary school days. The first was by Norwich at home in the Cup in the late 60's and the other was by Villa in the semi-final of the League Cup just before Christmas 1970 (the final nail in Wilf McGuinness's managerial coffin). I can still picture Andy Lochead jumping above Ian Ure to score their first goal. My own lowest ebb came in the home defeat by Sheffield Wednesday on a Sunday afternoon in April 1986. Here was a United side clearly going nowhere, losing to two goals by Carl Shutt on a dreadful Old Trafford surface. The 10 wins in-a-row form of October had long since disappeared and the imminence of Mark Hughes's departure had cast a cloud over the team for months. I can't remember the line-up off hand, but for some reason Mark Higgins sticks in my mind in connection with this game. It may also have been the occasion of Terry Gibson's infamous open goal miss. Robson's injury worries were at their worst, Whiteside's career was in a trough, Gary Bailey's days were numbered due to injury, the new players (Davenport, Gibson and Gibson) were struggling - it seemed that the whole team was in crisis. The pitch and the sleepy Sunday atmosphere only added to the depression. It's games like these that keep me counting my blessings nowadays. Paul O'H pohare@dis.n-i.nhs.uk __________________________ Subject: Re: Two questions Tony asked: >Second, a question that occurred to me in the car tonight. I wondered what >was the most depressing result of a United match ever. I can think of quite >a few obviously: Losing the league in 92; losing cup semi-finals (especially >1970); 5-1 at City; Arsenal last season; Dortmund the year before. But I >reckon there is one game that will be remembered by those who were around as >the most depressing ever. It will be interesting to see if our over-45s >mention it. (And I'm not referring to 1958, which goes without saying, and >wasn't a tragedy because of a football result.) I can remember two European Cup semis - the first in 67 against Partizan Belgrade when they came - defended and conquered. After the game I walked around by the railway side of the ground and was confronted by two deliriously happy Yugoslavs who shouted over "cock of the North eh?". No-one mustered a response, we all felt utterly dejected. I then caught a bus into Manchester and sat opposite a young lad whose face I'll never forget. He looked as pissed off as I felt - so bloody pissed off I felt that even if the ground opened up and the bus drove down to hell I couldn't be more pissed off. He may well remember my face in the same way as both of them were practically on the floor. The second semi was against the Italians in 69 when I was again on the Stretford and saw Law's 'goal'. I mean the ball crossed the line by a good few inches. Unfortunately the ref decided he'd rather have the Rolex and we went out. The thing that pisses me off in retrospect is that I could have gone to both those Finals had United made it, but I couldn't go to Wembley - don't even ask............ And now I'm really pissed off again and I was having quite a good day - thanks Tony and merry bloody christmas mate ;-) Oh and by the way I haven't got a clue what the first answer is! Paul
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Subject: Manchester United Reserves + Junior Teams Pontins/FA Premier Academy U-17/U-19 Bookmark: http://www.red11.org/mufc/pontin.htm Updated 21/12/98 by Paul Hinson 97-8 98-9 AUGUST Thu 20 SUNDERLAND (H) - 0-0 SEPTEMBER Wed 2 ASTON VILLA (H) 1-0 4-0 (Wilson 2, Jaszczun og, Greening) Sat 5 Everton (A) 2-3 2-0 (Cruyff, Greening) Thu 17 BIRMINGHAM CITY (H) 2-0 3-2 (Sheringham 2, Cruyff) Fri 25 Liverpool (A) 2-2 2-0 (Notman, Cruyff) OCTOBER Thu 1 NOTTINGHAM FOREST (H) 1-1 1-0 (Cooke) Wed 14 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H) 2-2 3-2 (Greening 2, Wilson) NOVEMBER Tue 3 STOKE CITY (H) 4-2 4-1 (Notman, Wilson, Greening, Wood) Mon 16 Leicester City (A) - 6-2 (Greening 3, Wilson, Clegg, Wellens) DECEMBER Wed 2 Leeds United (A) 0-3 1-5 (Sheringham) Thu 17 Sunderland (A) - 0-2 JANUARY Wed 6 Aston Villa (A) 1-0 Tue 19 DERBY COUNTY (H) 2-1 FEBRUARY Wed 3 Birmingham City (A) 2-0 Mon 8 Preston North End (A) 6-1 Tue 23 Nottingham Forest (A) 1-0 MARCH Wed 3 LIVERPOOL (H) 0-1 Mon 15 Blackburn Rovers (A) 1-3 Mon 22 Stoke City (A) 2-1 Sat 27 EVERTON (H) 7-0 APRIL Wed 14 LEICESTER CITY (H) - Wed 28 LEEDS UNITED (H) 1-1 TBA PRESTON NORTH END (H) 5-2 TBA Derby County (A) 4-0 First 3 and last 3 Home fixtures at Old Trafford, Kick-off 7pm. Remainder at Gigg Lane, Bury, Kick-off 7.00. All Saturday fixtures Kick-off 2pm. Fixtures subject to alteration. Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 24/11/98) Henning BERG 1 0 Russell BEST 0+1 0 Jesper BLOMQVIST 3 0 Wes BROWN 2 0 Nicky BUTT 2 0 Chris CASPER 2 0 Luke CHADWICK 0+1 0 Michael CLEGG 9 1 Andy COLE 1 0 Terry COOKE 6+1 1 Jordi CRUYFF 5 3 Nick CULKIN 2 0 John CURTIS 5 0 Ryan FORD 2+1 0 Jonathan GREENING 8+1 8 Paul GIBSON 3 0 David HEALY 0+2 0 Danny HIGGINBOTHAM 3 0 Ronny JOHNSEN 1 0 David MAY 5 0 Philip MULRYNE 5 0 Erik NEVLAND 4+2 0 Alex NOTMAN 4 2 John O'SHEA 3 0 Lee ROCHE 2+1 0 Teddy SHERINGHAM 2 3 Michael STEWART 1 0 Dominic STUDLEY 1 0 Paul TEATHER 4+2 0 Raimond VAN DER GOUW 5 0 Ronnie WALLWORK 7+1 0 Richard WELLENS 4+1 1 Mark WILSON 8+1 5 Jamie WOOD 0+3 1 Jaszczun (Aston Villa) 1 og Pontins League Premier Division Results from last week: Aston Villa 1 Leicester City 1 Leeds United 1 Blackburn Rovers 0 Derby County 0 Everton 3 Sunderland 2 UNITED 0 All facts and figures updated by Paul Hinson P.L.Hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk Webmaster barry@www.red11.org PONTINS PREMIER LEAGUE P W D L F A Pts UNITED (2) 11 8 1 226 14 25 Sunderland (-) 12 7 3 225 9 24 Everton (7) 12 6 4 216 10 22 Nottingham Forest (11)10 4 3 312 7 15 Aston Villa (4) 12 4 3 517 16 15 Blackburn Rovers (3) 11 4 3 414 14 15 Leeds United (1) 10 4 2 414 14 14 Birmingham City (5) 13 3 5 515 18 14 Leicester City (-) 12 3 3 614 26 12 Liverpool (10) 7 3 2 210 8 11 Stoke City (6) 10 2 2 69 18 8 Preston North End (9) 8 2 2 47 17 8 Derby County (8) 10 1 3 68 16 6 Last seasons position in brackets --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manchester Senior Cup JANUARY Tue 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H) FEBRUARY Thu 11 BURY (H) MARCH Wed 10 Oldham Athletic (A) Wed 31 Bury (A) APRIL Tue 6 Manchester City (A) Wed 21 OLDHAM ATHLETIC (H) Venues/Kick-off times to be decided. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manchester United FA Premier Academy U-19 SEPTEMBER Sep 5 West Ham United (A) 0-3 Sat 12 DERBY COUNTY (H) 1-1 (Healy) Sat 19 WATFORD (H) 2-4 (O'Shea, Chadwick) Sat 26 WIMBLEDON (H) 4-0 (Healy 3, Chadwick) OCTOBER Sat 3 FULHAM (H) 4-0 (Healy 3, Evans) Sat 17 Manchester City (A) 4-1 (Evans, Healy, Clegg, Daly og) Sat 24 EVERTON (A) 1-0 (Knowles og) Sat 31 LIVERPOOL (H) 1-1 (Healy) NOVEMBER Sat 7 Bolton Wanderers (A) 2-1 (Wheatcroft, Ryan) Sat 14 Blackburn Rovers (A) 1-5 (Fitzpatrick) Sat 21 ASTON VILLA (H) 4-0 (Notman 3, Chadwick) Sat 28 CREWE ALEXANDRA (H) 2-1 (Howard, Fitzpatrick) DECEMBER Sat 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H) 1-0 (Fitzpatrick) JANUARY Sat 16 Liverpool (A) Sat 30 BOLTON WANDERERS (H) FEBRUARY Sat 13 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H) Sat 20 Aston Villa (A) Sat 27 Crewe Alexandra (A) MARCH Sat 6 Crystal Palace (A) Sat 20 BRISTOL CITY (H) Sat 27 Sheffield Wednesday (A) TBA EVERTON (H) Home fixtures played at the Cliff, Lower Broughton, Salford Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 21/11/98) Luke CHADWICK 12+1 3 George CLEGG 8+2 1 Stephen COSGROVE 4 0 Wayne EVANS 6+3 2 Ian FITZPATRICK 9+1 3 David HEALY 6+1 9 Jason HICKSON 0+2 0 Kirk HILTON 6+1 0 Joshua HOWARD 3 1 Mark LYNCH 2 0 Allan MARSH 0+1 0 Alex NOTMAN 1 3 John O'SHEA 9+1 1 Paul RACHUBKA 13 0 Lee ROCHE 12 0 Stephen ROSE 7 0 Michael RYAN 6 1 Michael STEWART 10+1 0 Dominic STUDLEY 6+3 0 John THORRINGTON 7 0 Richard WELLENS 2 0 Paul WHEATCROFT 8+2 1 Lee WHITELEY 0+2 0 Daly (Manchester City) 1 og Knowles (Everton) 1 og Top of Group A (up to and including 30/11/98) FA Premier Academy League Under-19 P W D L F A Pts UNITED 12 7 2 3 26 17 23 Crewe Alexandra 12 7 2 3 19 12 23 Everton 12 6 2 4 17 16 20 Liverpool 10 5 3 2 18 8 18 Aston Villa 12 5 2 5 27 27 17 Blackburn Rovers11 5 0 6 17 15 15 Manchester City 10 2 2 6 8 20 8 Bolton Wanderers12 2 2 8 16 32 8 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manchester United FA Premier Academy U-17 SEPTEMBER Sep 5 West Ham United (A) 2-1 (Walker, Webber) Sat 12 DERBY COUNTY (H) 4-0 (Szmid, Muirhead, Rose, McDermott) Sat 19 WATFORD (H) 2-1 (Wood, Muirhead) Sat 26 WIMBLEDON (H) 5-0 (Webber, Grogan, Wood, Lynch, Davis) OCTOBER Sat 3 FULHAM (H) 9-0 (Webber 5,Davis,McDermott,Lynch,Whiteman) Sat 17 Manchester City (A) 2-0 (Davis, Webber) Sat 24 EVERTON (H) 3-2 (Webber, McDermott, Davis) Sat 31 LIVERPOOL (H) 2-2 (Lynch, Molloy) NOVEMBER Sat 7 WIMBLEDON (A) 1-1 (Webber) Sat 14 Blackburn Rovers (A) 2-0 (Webber, Davis) Sat 21 ASTON VILLA (H) 5-0 (Webber 2, McDermott, Davis, Samuels og) Sat 28 CREWE ALEXANDRA (H) 1-1 (Webber) DECEMBER Sat 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H) 4-0 (Webber 2, Davis, Molloy) JANUARY Sat 16 Liverpool (A) Sat 30 Tottenham Hotspur (A) FEBRUARY Sat 13 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H) Sat 20 Aston Villa (A) Sat 27 Crewe Alexandra (A) MARCH Sat 6 Crystal Palace (H) Sat 20 BRISTOL CITY (H) Sat 27 Sheffield Wednesday (A) TBA Everton (A) Home fixtures played at Littleton Road, Salford Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 21/11/98) CLARK 2 0 James DAVIS 9+1 7 Ashley DODD 1 0 Kevin GROGAN 3+2 1 Mark LYNCH 11 4 Alan MCDERMOTT 10 3 Allan MARSH 1 0 Eric MOLLOY 6+2 2 David MORAN 12 0 Ben MUIRHEAD 11 2 Michael ROSE 13 1 SAMPSON 0+2 0 Mark STUDLEY 12 0 Gareth STRANGE 11 0 Marek SZMID 13 1 Joshua WALKER 8+1 1 Danny WEBBER 11 16 Lee WHITELEY 1 0 Marc WHITEMAN 3+3 1 WILLIAMS 0+2 0 Neil WOOD 5+2 2 Samuels (Aston Villa) 1 og MUFC Hon. 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Subject: Re: Self fulfilling prophecy by "Our Salford Lass" At 15:13 22/12/98 +0000, Idlan wrote: >Is Schmikes off form, or is it time for him to vacate his throne for new >blood? In my humble opinion, the answer to both questions is a resounding "no". I believe that two things are happening: The back four in front of him is never the same one game to the next. Whereas he could rely on his defence in the past he no longer can. Sitting where I do in Old Trafford, I am behind Peter and I see the mistakes that have left him isolated, often he has done very well to parry an impossible ball before it goes into the net, often he has got his fingertips to a ball which few other goalkeepers would have got anywhere near (there was one like that on Saturday). Until he gets the same two central defenders playing in front of him, and playing well, there will be more goals scored passed him. On Saturday, for only one of the three goals could you make out a case for Peter to be even slightly to blame. Which brings me on to my next point. Both press and fans are concentrating on the mistakes and ignoring the very important saves he has been making over the last few games. Had it not been for Peter, we would have lost to Chelsea - watch the video again if you don't believe me. Against Barcelona at the Nou Camp, he made a daft mistake and they scored from a free kick. But he also made at least two wonderful saves that I remember - the score could have been 5-3. Personally, I think many fans are listening to the seagulls too much. Yes, he has made some mistakes recently but then he always has occasionally made mistakes - usually quite spectacular ones! He has also had bad periods in the past, when the press have gone for him eg 11 goals put past him a couple of seasons ago. The difference between then and now is that the seagulls have really got their knives out. I'm not blind, I can see that Peter's confidence is low (although that might have more to do with being generally pissed off with what goes on around the game rather than his age - Eric looked the same towards the end of his last season), but he's still the best keeper in the world. Perhaps if United fans supported him rather than questioning his ability, his confidence might improve. I (and everyone else who sits near me in East Lower) am dreading next season. We can never replace Peter - unfortunately, however, it will only be after he's gone that some United fans will realise just how good he was. Our Salford Lass
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