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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Sun Dec 20 05:51:52 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. United defeat lets Chelsea in 
2. Chelsea go top as Middlesbrough win at Old Trafford  
3. Boro Boss Would Be Ideal Replacement For Alex 
4. Personal Chelsea Report from "Our Salford Lass"   It's only a game


Daily RED Trivia  Sun 20th December 1998:

20/12/1947: John Anderson made his debut against Middlesbrough. Anderson scored in
 the 1948 FA Cup Final, becoming the first post-war player to gain a winners medal
 in his debut season. An assured Half-back, he made 39 appearances and scored 2
 goals between 1947-49 before joining Nottingham Forest in October 1949..

1986: United beat Leicester City 2-0 at Old Trafford in a Division 1 game watched
 by 34,180. Colin Gibson and Frank Stapleton got the goals. Team was: Walsh,
 Sivebaek, C.Gibson, O'Brien (Stapleton), Moran, Hogg, Robson, Strachan,
 Whiteside, Davenport, Olsen.


Barry Daily Comment:
Food for thought to debate (sensibly) on this list.......

1 Dwight has not scored in the Premiership since 14/11
2 United have never lost with Wes Brown as a starter
3 Are United missing Brian Kidd already?
4 Did Gary Pallister (Man Of the match) leave too early?
5 Can Pigs Fly? no..... but Turkey's can?

Cool to think we are 3rd AND in European Champions League Finals, NO CRISIS
at all yet.
Do not worry yet
Have a RED Christmas
Lets hope the boys pull their socks up soon:

Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio

Remaining 1998 games: 

ALL Result/Fixture Index:

Today!    Middlesbrough (H) PL 15.00
Sat 26/12 Nottm Forest  (H) PL 15.00
Tue 29/12 Chelsea       (A) PL sky sports time 19.45 UK

UNITED Stats v All teams:


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251
17/10/98    Wimbledon                Home     W  5-1     2    55,265
24/10/98    Derby County             Away     D  1-1     2    30,867
31/10/98    Everton                  Away     W  4-1     2    40,079
08/11/98    Newcastle United         Home     D  0-0     3    55,174
14/11/98    Blackburn Rovers         Home     W  3-2     2    55,198
21/11/98    Sheffield Wednesday      Away     L  1-3     2    39,475
29/11/98    Leeds                    Home     W  3-2     2    55,172
05/12/98    Aston Villa              Away     D  1-1     2    39,241
12/12/98    Tottenham Hotspur        Away     D  2-2     1    36,079
16/12/98    Chelsea                  Home     D  1-1     2    55,159
19/12/98    Middlebrough             Home     L  2-3     3    55,152

Champions League:
Group D         P  W  D  L  F  A   Pts
Bayern Munich   6  3  2  1  9  6  11   
Man United      6  2  4  0 20 11  10
Barcelona       6  2  2  2 11  9   8    
Brondby         6  1  0  5  4 18   3   

Dec  9 Brøndby         0-2  Barcelona
Dec  9 Man Utd         1-1  Bayern Munich


 Manchester Utd    v   Inter Milan
 Real Madrid       v   Dynamo Kiev
 Juventus          v   Olympiakos
 Bayern Munich     v   Kaiserslautern

 Ties to be played on March 3 and 17


             Chelsea   2-0   Tottenham Hotspur     34,881
       Coventry City   1-1   Derby County          16,627
           Liverpool   2-0   Sheffield Wednesday   40,003
   Manchester United   2-3   Middlesbrough         55,152
    Newcastle United   1-0   Leicester City        36,718
   Nottingham Forest   2-2   Blackburn Rovers      22,013
         Southampton   3-1   Wimbledon             14,354
     West Ham United   2-1   Everton               25,998

*** FULL LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 19/12/98 ***

Pos Team                  P  W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A   GD  Pts
 1  Chelsea              18  6  3  0  15   5   2  6  1  14  12   12   33
 2  Aston Villa          17  6  2  1  17  11   3  4  1  10   6   10   33
 3  Manchester United    18  6  3  1  24  12   2  4  2  12  11   13   31
 4  Middlesbrough        18  4  5  0  15   7   3  4  2  15  14    9   30
 5  Leeds United         17  6  2  1  16   3   1  6  1  12  11   14   29
 6  West Ham United      18  5  3  1  14  10   3  2  4   8  12    0   29
 7  Arsenal              17  4  4  0  11   3   2  4  3   6   7    7   26
 8  Wimbledon            18  5  3  1  14   9   2  2  5   9  20   -6   26
 9  Liverpool            18  4  3  2  17  10   3  1  5  12  12    7   25
10  Derby County         18  2  5  2   8   8   3  4  2  10   9    1   24
11  Leicester City       18  5  2  2  14   9   1  4  4   7  11    1   24
12  Newcastle United     18  5  2  2  14  10   1  4  4   8  11    1   24
13  Tottenham Hotspur    18  4  3  2  15  15   2  2  5   8  13   -5   23
14  Sheffield Wednesday  18  5  2  2  13   5   1  2  6   7  14    1   22
15  Everton              18  2  5  2   3   5   3  2  4   9  12   -5   22
16  Charlton Athletic    17  2  3  2  13   8   1  4  5   9  19   -5   16
17  Coventry City        18  3  3  3  10  11   1  1  7   5  15  -11   16
18  Blackburn Rovers     18  3  2  4  10  10   0  3  6   7  16   -9   14
19  Southampton          18  2  2  5  12  18   1  2  6   3  17  -20   13
20  Nottingham Forest    18  1  5  3   8  11   1  1  7   9  21  -15   12


"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: United defeat lets Chelsea in Manchester United 2 Middlesbrough 3 Middlesbrough achieved their first win at Old Trafford for 68 years, allowing Chelsea to go top of the Premiership after their victory over Spurs. But the poor United performance was missed by oppposing number Alex Ferguson, with his team losing vital ground in the race for the championship, despite a second half comeback. Ex-Reds player Bryan Robson arrived with defender Gary Pallister, who was also returning to Old Trafford for the first time since his summer move. Paul Gascoigne missed the game through suspension. Caretaker assistant manager Jimmy Ryan was in charge of the United team in Ferguson's absence, due to a family bereavement, and there were five changes from midweek. Dwight Yorke and Jaap Stam were both injured, and Wes Brown and Jesper Blomqvist were rested as Teddy Sheringham made only his second league start of the season. David Beckham and Ryan Giggs also returned, as did Phil Neville and Ronny Johnsen. Although United started the more dangerous, it was Peter Schmeichel who had the first save to make, stretching to divert Hamilton Ricard's long range effort over the bench. Roy Keane then had a shot deflected from just outside the box and Cole almost put Giggs clear in the box. United asleep Sheringham had a long range shot saved but in the 23rd minute, Deane was allowed to run down the right and behind a United defence, which appeared to have gone to sleep. The former Leeds striker cut the ball back into the area for Ricard to comfortably slot the ball past Schmeichel. On 28 minutes United finally managed to threaten the Middlesbrough goal, but Cole was unable to get a significant touch on an inviting Beckham cross into the near post. Then a ball swung in from the Boro right was cleared by Johnsen, but only to Dean Gordon who thrashed it home from outside the box, leaving Schmeichel with no chance. United finally came close to Mark Schwarzer's goal when Giggs put a 40th minute header wide and Beckham shot narrowly wide after being handed the ball by Gianluca Festa in midfield. But the Italian's error was not typical in a first half when the home side were the team more likely to give the ball away needlessly. No immediate improvement United fans expecting an immediate improvement in the second half would have been disappointed. Cole wasted a good chance, volleying into the ground from six yards, and allowing Boro to clear as the ball bounced high in front of Schwarzer's goal. United were slowly getting better, although their improvement was brought crashing down because of an error at the back. A lazy ball was played in from the United left, and the player most alert to it was Ricard, who fed Deane on the edge of the area for him to smash another long range effort out of Schmeichel's reach and into the net. Beckham then lost his head, with a bad challenge on Ricard which earnt him a yellow card. The England star then helped give his side a goal before being substituted. It was his cross which Nicky Butt headed home as the Boro defence for once failed to clear a ball into ther box. But the United bench can not have been that impressed and replaced Beckham with Paul Scholes, to the obvious displeasure of the departing player. And it was the substitute who got United's second on 70 minutes, arriving late after a scramble in the box following Gordon's tackle on Cole. Middlesbrough seemed to be defending too deeply and looked nervous - not suprising considering their record of conceding late equalisers this season. But they were still threatening an out-of-sorts United on the break and the home side's pressure was not as dangerous as it might have been, despite changes enforced on Robson as Robbie Mustoe pulled up injured. Cole then wasted a glorious chance to level the scores, after Schwarzer's and Pallister contrived to hand him the ball. But the striker shot straight back at the Australian, and although the ball got through his defences it was cleared off the line by a defender. The final stages were frantic, although again Boro appeared to threaten as frequently as the side that actually needed to score. Man Utd: Schmeichel, P. Neville, Irwin, Johnsen, G. Neville, Butt, Beckham, Keane, Giggs, Cole, Sheringham. Subs: Blomqvist, Scholes, Van Der Gouw, Brown, Solskjaer. Middlesbrough: Schwarzer, Gordon, Vickers, Festa, Pallister, Mustoe, Deane, Maddison, Townsend, Ricard, Cooper. Subs: Moore, Beck, Blackmore, Roberts, Stockdale. Referee: G Willard (Worthing)
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: Chelsea go top as Middlesbrough win at Old Trafford By Mitch Phillips LONDON, Dec 19 - Chelsea moved to the top of the English championship for the first time in nine years with a 2-0 home victory over Tottenham Hotspur on Saturday. Middlesbrough underlined their status as a premier league force by beating Manchester United 3-2 in a thriller. It was Middlesbrough's first win at Old Trafford since 1930 and United's first home defeat of the season. Chelsea and Aston Villa, who play Charlton on Monday, have 33 points, with Chelsea ahead on goal difference. United are on 31 points with Middlesbrough up to fourth on 30. Leeds, who visit Arsenal on Sunday, are fifth on 29, ahead of West Ham on goal difference. Chelsea, who battled back to draw 1-1 at United in midweek, had to rely on two late goals to win Saturday's bruising London derby at Stamford Bridge. Things turned their way after an hour when Spurs striker Chris Armstrong was sent off for a second bookable offence. But it was not until 10 minutes from time that the breakthrough came, and again it was Uruguayan Gustavo Poyet who was the hero. The midfielder fired in his 10th goal of the season after a neat touch from player-manager Gianluca Vialli. Norwegian Tore Andre Flo, again coming on as substitute, headed in a Dan Petrescu cross in injury time for the second. "I've just been in the dressing room looking at the league table on TV and it feels good," said Chelsea midfielder Jody Morris. Chelsea were last top of the table in November 1989, before the formation of the premier league. Liverpool found some form with a 2-0 victory over Sheffield Wednesday, Michael Owen scoring the second goal. West Ham United beat Everton 2-1, Newcastle United edged Leicester City 1-0 and Coventry drew 1-1 with Derby. Southampton moved off the bottom with a 3-1 home victory over Wimbledon. Nottingham Forest dropped to last place after Blackburn's Nathan Blake scored in the last minute to earn a 2-2 draw at the City Ground. Middlesbrough's success was only their second victory over United in 25 attempts and was a particularly sweet moment for manager Bryan Robson and centre back Gary Pallister, both former United heroes. United decided to rest centre back Jaap Stam and it looked a poor decision as Boro cashed in on bad defending to lead 2-0 at halftime. Hamilton Ricard, with his 13th goal of the season, and Dean Gordon, with a superb volley from outside the box, were the marksmen. Brian Deane silenced Old Trafford by making it 3-0 on the hour before Nicky Butt and Paul Scholes replied to produce a thrilling finale. Andy Cole should have equalised late on after robbing Pallister, returning for the first time to Old Trafford, but he was foiled by Middlesbrough's Australian keeper Mark Schwarzer. "It's lovely to come back this season and get my first win here," said Boro manager Bryan Robson, who spent 12 years as a player at Old Trafford. "It gives me satisfaction because it was Manchester United and, for me, they're still the best side in the country. It is the most difficult place to come and win three points."
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: Boro Boss Would Be Ideal Replacement For Alex BRYAN ROBSON takes his Middlesbrough side to Old Trafford today for the ultimate test of his managerial ability; a head-to-head clash with his mentor and the man many expect him to ultimately replace as Manchester United manager, especially now that Brian Kidd has decided to go it alone at Blackburn Rovers. No-one could even begin to question the former England captain's commitment to the North East club he has so skilfully re-established as a Premiership force of some note after the disappointment of relegation from the top flight two years ago, and anyone who knows Robson realises that he is not a person to leave a job half done. But there's almost a sense of inevitability about the Manchester United legend returning to Old Trafford at some stage of his managerial career and it is quite obvious listening to people who know Robson best, as a player and boss, that he would be the perfect replacement for Ferguson when the United chief ultimately decides to call it a day. Boro defender Gary Pallister, whose whole playing career with United was masterminded by Ferguson and included a successful spell under Robson the skipper, is now coming to terms with life under Bryan the manager. And so soon after his £2.5m return to the Teessiders, he has no doubts whatsoever that the man he played behind for so long has what it takes to succeed as a boss at the highest level. Robson's leadership qualities as a player and his will to win have not diminished in the intervening years and Pallister sees many similarities between Robbo and the man he learned so much from, Ferguson. ''It comes across in how badly he wants to win,'' says Pallister. ''It's the same thing with Alex at United. You can only learn from someone like Alex Ferguson. You talk about benchmarks, and Alex has proved to be the most successful manager of his era. Bryan has the same qualities." As with Ferguson during his first few years in charge at United, Robson's introduction to life as a top flight manager in England wasn't without its problems. Overseas stars made his life a misery at times and relegation back to the First Division two seasons ago was a rare blemish on a distinguished career. But, like Fergie, Robson has learned from the experience and has grown as a manager and a person. Former United and Leeds defender Gordon McQueen, a first team coach at the Riverside, has noticed the changes and improvements in his boss and says: "He's learning all the time. There have been mistakes made at the club over the last few years, but he's learned from those mistakes and gone from strength to strength. There's no way Bryan has come here to fight off relegation every year. He wants to do better than that." That driving ambition must surely mean that, in order to satisfy the personal demands he continually makes of himself, he will need to answer the call from Old Trafford when, not if, the inevitable happens. In the meantime, he has two huge tests against his mentor - this afternoon and when he returns to Old Trafford for the FA Cup tie in a fortnight.
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: Personal Chelsea Report from "Our Salford Lass" It's only a game My match day started early. I had to go and get our FA Cup tickets, so arrived at OT more than four hours before kick-off. Nothwithstanding the early hour, the forecourt was busy with fans arriving early for the game, tourists soaking up the atmosphere and a few Chelsea fans (all looking like Del Boy, with mobile phones stuck to their ear'oles) making total d*ckheads of themselves. The queue I had expected didn't materialise, so I was soon walking out of the ticket office with our tickets in my hot little hand. The short wait had been enlivened by the arrival of a large Securicor van which proceeded to fill 10 metal boxes with money from the ticket office - one disgruntled fan was heard to mutter "This is taking the p*ss this is!" As it was now only 4pm, and I hadn't arranged to meet Bill McArthur for our mice pies until 5pm, I was tempted into buying some disgusting fish and chips whilst watching the autograph hunters besieging Fergie by reception. The man is a marvel. He must be heartily sick of not being able to appear anywhere within a 10 miles radius of OT without having to sign millions of autographs, but he always has a big smile for the fans and always appears to be happy to do so. Eventually, I tipped what was left of the fish and chips into a bin and decided to waste some more time by having a look round the Super Store which was advertising a "sale". I put the word sale into inverted commas, because the prices in the sale at OT are still way above what the items are actually worth! As I walked round the place I marvelled at the tatt (sp?) on offer. It seems to be getting worse. The merchandise used to be a little tacky but serviceable - I have been tempted to buy the odd pair of pyjamas for my grandaughter in the past - but these days its just tacky, and very expensive! A fiver for a diary which is exactly the same as you could pick up in any newsagent for 2 pounds - the only difference, half-a-dozen pictures of United players and the United crest on the front (minus the two words "Football Club" of course - they are on nothing in the store anymore). Almost a pound for a packet of sweets that would cost 30 pence in your local sweet shop! I looked around at the fans buying up what seemed to be most of the stock in the store (and at the Chelsea fans from the forecourt who were now buying United merchandise!) and decided not to bother. Leaving the shop, I was followed by the Del Boy lookalikes who were off to try and get into the Dog and Partridge, assuming that their Super Store bags would make them look like real United fans!!! Walking very slowly and with a detour into Pound Stretcher to look for cheap Chrissy presents, I finally arrived at the Nest at 5pm. Luckily Pete, Hal and Bill arrived a few minutes later so I didn't have to wait too long. It was good to meet Bill again and to chat about the Simplenet site and the story of how Bill and the Mad Dane got together! Sausage Man soon arrived and the pub began to fill - we soon had a large group of list members with us, including the son-and-heir who had decided to come and spend some time with his mum for a change, and Lisa Bailey who had certain men buzzing around her likes bees round a honey pot - you know who you are!! We arrived in the stadium 15 minutes before kick-off to find the atmosphere already electric. The Chelsea fans were singing their heads off up in the corner and the chat in East Lower was all about the draw against Inter and whether Keane or Wise would win the inevitable punch-up that is always a part of a game between us and Chelsea. Our money was, of course, on Roy. The chanting began as soon as the game started. The first half was one of the best atmospheres seen this season for a Premiership game (it quietened down a bit in the second half). This was mainly due to the fact that the Chelsea fans not only have an exaggerated sense of their own importance but are also pitifully easy to wind up! Throughout the first half, the chants were going back and forwards. They sang "Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea" (the lyrics have to be easy to learn for all the cockneys who have suddenly become lifelong Chelsea fans over the last couple of seasons), we sang "Rent Boys, Rent Boys, Rent Boys, Rent Boys". They sang "Stand up if you hate Man U", we sang "Sit down if you sell your arse". They sang "5-3 and you won f*ck all", we sang "4-0 in your Cup Final" and "Have you ever won the double have you f*ck" and "Chelsea, never won the league". Each time we sang one back at them they were dancing up and down in rage, doing aeroplane impressions and generally providing us with much entertainment. The biggest laugh they gave us was a chorus of "In your Manchester slums" - they must be joking!! I did notice though that one chant wasn't replied to - "Oh Teddy, Teddy come to Man United and you've won fuck all". In fact I could swear one or two around me joined in with that one! On the pitch, the atmosphere was just as volatile, as both teams played out the customary battle which always starts at games between us and the cockney wide boys. Dennis Wise was kicking everything in sight as usual, the Italians were falling all over the place - every time a United player brushed past them they were going down like they'd been shot and Le Saux was doing his usual impression of a total w*nker. And, just like on Saturday, the referee was taken in every bloody time - that, along with a blind linesmen running the line in front of South Stand, meant that United ended up giving away 17 free kicks of which only about 5 were actually deserved. We got so sick of it that late in the half, when yet another Italian was writhing around on the floor in his death throes, the chant that rose from East Lower was "Let him die, let him die, let him die!" The referee did manage to book some Chelsea players at last, close to the end of the first half, but this was for dissent rather than for the diving that had been going on for most of the 45 minutes. Despite the crap refereeing, the blind linesmen and the best efforts of the Chelsea corp de ballet, Andy eventually scored - Butt had a shot at goal which hit Andy, Andy managed somehow to turn and drove the ball past De Goey and into the net in front of us. All of a sudden, the Chelsea rent boys went silent as we danced around and hugged and kissed each other and Andy threw himself to the floor and waited for his team mates to pile on top of him! So the first half ended with us one-up. We had a chat to Pat and Tim, and then to Lisa, who all appeared to say hello and cheered George Best who had come to draw the half-time draw ticket. The second half never quite lived up to the standard of the first, as the players seemed to have been told to cool it a bit and the fans seemed to take forever to eat their pies, drink their beer and get back into the spirit of the thing. Chelsea should have ended the game with 9 men - Wise should have been sent off for a second bookable offence but got away with it, and the whole stadium went bananas when Lambourde brought down Yorke when he was through on goal. The referee simply waved play on as Yorke lay on the floor and Fergie jumped up and down on the touchline screaming at the referee, with no Kiddo to hold him back. We almost scored a couple of times, but nothing was going to go in. Fergie brought on Beckham, then Giggs and then finally Sheringham but these changes seemed to have the opposite effect to the one intended as we sat back and let them come at us. Of course this gave them the room to pass the ball around and for the last 20 minutes it was all hands into defence as we desperately tried to keep them out. What had been threatening to happen then happened, two minutes from the end, as Zola scored an easy chip over Peter. Not Peter's fault, by the way, there was nothing he could have done about it. Of course the Chelsea fans went mad with joy - one lad getting himself thrown out for running right down into South Stand doing a certain hand movement as he went - as we muttered, swore and watched Peter pick the ball out of the net with a look of disgust on his face that echoed the way we felt. There was an exciting last couple of minutes as we desperately tried to score a winner (and they had a shot which just shaved the bar and nearly gave us all a heart attack) but it ended as yet another draw. Man of the match? It has to be Stam. That man is a colossus - he had a superb game, only making one mistake which luckily didn't cost us. He also showed that all the crap that has been written about him being too slow is just that - crap. Time after time he beat one of their forwards to the ball after coming from behind, for such a big bloke, he is very, very fast. The best bit though, was one of his crunching tackles, just before the end, when the whole of OT shuddered from the impact! Ouch!! Others mentioned in dispatches - Andy Cole, another great game and Wesley Brown, who made a few mistakes but the lad is still learning. For one so young and so inexperienced, he is learning very fast and is cool as a cucumber. Which brings me to my moment of the match - seeing Wesley sort out Dennis Wise in front of West Stand, wonderful stuff which brought cheers from the crowd and moves him another notch closer to legendary status. So it was off home feeling a little miffed that yet again we had lost a lead and ended up with a draw. Once in the car we listened to the news on the radio and discovered that the US, with assistance from our own Air Force, were mounting air strikes on Iraq. Knowing that thousands of innocent men, women and children were probably being killed and injured at that very moment, put things into stark perspective. It was just a football game after all. Copyright © 1998 by Our Salford Lass. All rights reserved. Not to be reproduced without permission of the author
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"

Subject: UNITED KEANE TO TIE ROY DOWN Roy Keane is set to scoop a new five year contract with Manchester United worth a potential £8million. The United captain's current deal has 18 months left to run but it is reported that the club are ready to offer him a new blockbusting agreement to keep him at Old Trafford until 2004. The contract is said to include a bumper testimonial in 2003 for the Republic of Ireland midfielder, who joined United in a then record £3.75million transfer from Nottingham Forest five years ago. Keane is back to his best for United following his nightmare cruciate knee ligament injury last season. © PA Sporting Life
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