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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Sat Oct 17  GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Fergie must be patient - Injury-hit Man United wait for an international roll-call
2. Foe still in picture for Manchester United  
3. Robbie Earle: Here's mud in your eye, Mr Ferguson
4. All you ever need to know about Brondby FC but did not dare to ask!
6. Books
7. Save our Game T-shirts


Daily RED Trivia  Sat 17th October:

17th Oct 1948: Francis Burns born in Glenboig, Lanarkshire. Burns made his debut at West Ham
United in September 1967 and appearing mainly at Full-Back made 155 appearances
between 1967-72, scoring 7 goals. He won 1 cap for Scotland in 1969 and also played
for Southampton and Preston North End.

17th Oct 1987: United beat Norwich City 2-1 at Old Trafford in a Division 1 game watched
by 39,345. Peter Davenport and Bryan Robson scored for the Reds. Team was:
Walsh, Garton (Moran), Gibson, Duxbury, McGrath, Blackmore (O'Brien), Robson,
Davenport, McClair, Whiteside, Olsen.

Barry Daily Comment:  

QUIZ:  http://www.red11.org/mufc/images/history/nhfc.jpg
This picture is of Newton Heath's FIRST EVER team.
Quiz time:  "Please tell us what is wrong with this picture?"
Comments: ( Received on ftpbox.mot.com from client mothost.mot.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:10:04 +0100
From: Neil Sharp 
No Goalkeeper??
It was probably before even Alex Stepney's time though!!
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   "Correct Neil "NO GOALKEEPER" and that was in record time.
   Your amazing feat is now documented on www.red11.org at
   CONGRATULATIONS! You deserve it"

 Better luck next time to the following attempts:
Dave Menashe Just  17.28 gmt just 1hr 20mins after our winner
 (wrong sleeves? I will have to ask the committee on this one!)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:28:31 -0700
Eleven players all wearing outfield shirts - where's the keeper?
Also player on front row has wrong sleeves on his shirt
Paul Hinson
From: P.L.Hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk
Is it the slight lack of a goalkeeper Barry?   If it was 92-93 then 
Jimmy Warner must have been late.  Maybe it was taken at Stoke
when Warner didn't turn up in time, The Heathens played with 10
men and lost 7-1!

*****   Barry comment: "Paul has the best answer so far 
              with even the reason why and WHO the goalkeeper was!" ****



Next 4 games: 
Result/Fixture Index:

Today! Sat 17/10 Wimbledon   (H) PL
Wed 21/10 Brondby     (A) CL
Sat 24/10 Derby       (A) PL
Wed 28/10 Bury        (H) LC (Worthington Cup)

UNITED Stats v Wimbledon are here:


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251

Champions league:              
Barcelona     2 Brondby 0      
Bayern Munich 2 Man Utd 2

GROUP D     P W D L  GF GA PTS      Next "CL" Match
Barcelona   2 1 1 0  5  3   4         Brondby v Man Utd 21/10
Brondby     2 1 0 1  2  3   3
ManUnited   2 0 2 0  5  5   2
BMunchen    2 0 1 1  3  4   1

*** FIXTURES ON 17/10/98 ***

             Arsenal  v  Southampton
             Chelsea  v  Charlton Athletic
             Everton  v  Liverpool
   Manchester United  v  Wimbledon
       Middlesbrough  v  Blackburn Rovers
    Newcastle United  v  Derby County
   Nottingham Forest  v  Leeds United
     West Ham United  v  Aston Villa

*** FIXTURES ON 18/10/98 ***

       Coventry City  v  Sheffield Wednesday


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Subject: Fergie must be patient - Injury-hit Man United wait for an international roll-call By IAN RODGERS STILL NO PETER - Schmeichel will miss another game tomorrow MANCHESTER United boss Alex Ferguson has been forced to play a waiting game as he prepares for the Premier League clash with Wimbledon at Old Trafford tomorrow. Fergie has been hit by a string of injuries and he needs a head count as his internationals return from duty before he will know who is available. Definitely out are Denis Irwin, Peter Schmeichel and Ronny Johnsen, and there are doubts about Phil Neville, Ryan Giggs and Teddy Sheringham. Raimond van der Gouw continues in goal after taking over from Schmeichel at Southampton a fortnight ago. "The only one of the internationals we definitely know about is Teddy Sheringham, who has a slight calf strain," Ferguson said. "We thought Phil Neville might have been injured during the game against Luxembourg but apparently that may not be the case, but we won't know until they are all back. "We've got Wes Brown, John Curtis and Michael Clegg in reserve and those three will probably be involved, and I was very impressed Jonathan Greening and Mark Wilson, who played for the reserves in mid week. "With them are players like Jordi Cruyff, so we have plenty who can fill in." Wimbledon hit man Efan Ekoku remains very doubtful for the game. The Nigerian international has been suffering from a long term hamstring injury and youngster Carl Cort looks set to fill his boots. Meanwhile, Everton could give new signing Ibrahim Bakayoko a baptism of fire in the Merseyside derby at Goodison Park. Goodison Park manager Walter Smith believes his new £4.5million striker can add invaluable firepower to his side when Liverpool visit on Saturday. The Blues have failed to score in all of their home Premier League matches so far this season and Smith has been impressed with the Ivory Coast man. "It is always awkward for any player who comes from a foreign country during a season," Smith said. "And it is an awkward game to throw somebody in. But in saying that, the lad is keen to get started and he wants to play so I see no reason why he shouldn't start the game." There was further good news for Smith with the return of John Collins from the toe injury which kept him out of the Scotland squad for the European Championship qualifiers against Estonia and the Faroe Islands.
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Subject: Foe still in picture for Manchester United MANCHESTER, England, Oct 16 - English premier league Manchester United said on Friday they might still be interested in signing injury-plagued Cameroon midfielder Marc-Vivien Foe from French club RC Lens. United manager Alex Ferguson was set to sign Foe towards the end of last season but the 23 -year-old player broke a leg, which scuppered the deal and ruined his chances of making a mark on the World Cup. Foe did travel to Manchester during the summer but the United medical staff advised Ferguson to hold off after examining the injury. On Friday, however, Ferguson told ClubCall he had not ruled out making another move for Foe in the near future. "We will monitor the situation when he is playing again. He came here for a fitness test to see the extent of his injury and unfortunately for him it was too serious to sign him at the time. But once he is back playing we can watch him again." --------------------------------------------------------- Friday, October 16, 1998 Published at 10:59 GMT 11:59 UK United revive Foe interest Foe: In action against England at Wembley last year Manchester United are ready to revive their interest in Cameroon international Marc-Vivien Foe. The 23-year-old, who currently plays for French champions Lens, was set to join United in the summer but the deal fell through when he broke his leg. The injury cost him his place in the Cameroon World Cup finals squad but he is now nearing full fitness. "We said we would monitor the situation once he was back playing," commented United manager Alex Ferguson. "He was here for a fitness test to see the extent of his injury and unfortunately for us it was not possible to sign him at the time, but once he is back playing we can watch him again."
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Subject: Robbie Earle: Here's mud in your eye, Mr Ferguson By Robbie Earle of Wimbledon Friday, October 16, 1998 A few seasons ago, in his 'captain's corner' notes in the Manchester United programme, Steve Bruce satirically wrote that United often have more people in their mega-store than Wimbledon do at some of their home games. A little harsh, but true, and a novel illustration of the gap between the two outfits. It is always a special occasion when the most powerful team in the League is pitted against what many cruelly call the smallest. But it goes to show that football does not necessarily have to be based on the cheque book. At 3 o'clock tomorrow afternoon we set off on a level plane: one pitch, two goals, 11 versus 11 for 90 minutes of combat (or 95-ish if United are losing!) And that is all that matters when everything to do with takeovers, pay per view and corporate hospitality stop. Thankfully, the only criteria for Premiership survival is what happens on the turf rather than in the boardroom. But while we may be complete opposites in terms of size, there are more than a few similarities between the two clubs. We are both somewhat despised at most grounds we visit, yet in terms of homegrown talent we probably contain the two highest percentages of any team in the league. Finally, we both have long-serving managers who have a strong influence throughout the whole club structure. While Fergie and Joe have a good working relationship, albeit at different ends of the market, there is a mutual respect between the two clubs. We hold United as the benchmark to which we aspire and I think that, in their own way, they appreciate what we achieve on a limited budget. As we look forward to our trip to the 'theatre of dreams', Old Trafford still holds great appeal to even the most hardened Premiership performers. Coupled with the aura of the place, the stadium is in wonderful condition. Behind the scenes, everything is immaculate from the facilities in the vast dressing room to the openly proud ground staff resplendent in their MUFC blazers. When you walk around the place, it smacks of the feel you get when viewing a show-home. And, of course, before we enter we make sure to wipe our feet. But that's not to say we don't enjoy treading a little mud into the carpet now and then.
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All you ever need to know about Brondby FC but did not dare to ask! http://www.brondby-if.dk/frames.htm Address: Brøndby IF A/S GildhøjCentret Brøndbyvester Boulevard 8 DK-2605 Brøndby Telefon +45 43 63 08 10 Telefax +45 43 43 26 27 E-mail: brondby@brondby-if.dk Chairman of the Board: Ole Borch Managing Director and Chairman of the amateur Club: Per Bjerregaard Headcoach: Ebbe Skovdahl Head-sponsor: CODAN FORSIKRING A/S Sports clothes-sponsor: Reebok Home ground: Brøndby Stadion Capacity 21.300 9 Seating capacity 6.074 Light 1.000 LUX Dimension: 109m x 74m. Club members: About 1.000 active Teams: About 60 teams play in a local tournament Colour (home/away): Yellow-Blue -Blue / Purple-Purple-Purple History With about 1,200 members, a very large and dynamic youth department and room for both èlite and width, Brøndbyernes Idrætsforening is today one of Denmark’s largest and most powerful football clubs. Furthermore, it has Denmark’s largest and best organised fan club “Brøndby Support” with more than 16,100 members. Brøndbyernes Idrætsforening was founded on the 3rd of December 1964 by consolidating the two football clubs Brøndbyøster Idrætsforening and Brøndbyvester Idrætsforening. The reason for the consolidation was a wish from the at the time parish council to unite the sport associations of the municipality. At that time the association comprised several types of sports such as football, team handball, gymnastics, badminton etc. From the beginning the football department concentrated on the youth. Throughout the years, the youth department has always had and still has a very high priority in the club. The senior department was, however, also strengthened by the consolidation and already in 1967 it succeeded in winning the Zealand 1. series and was promoted to the Zealand League. During the same period, the club was divided according to the different sports. The football club kept the name and the mayor of Brøndby, Kjeld Rasmussen, became its first president. In January 1973 he was succeeded by Per Bjerregaard, who has been club president since then. Finn Laudrup, a former player of the Danish national team, coached and played for the team in 1973. But from 1974 he concentrated on playing and became captain of the team and fulfilled the club’s first long-term goal: to become a division club. Later the club was promoted in 1977 and in 1981. With that the next goal was achieved: First Division. During the first three seasons the club took the honourable, but frustrating fourth place. On his 18th birthday on the 15th of June 1982, Michael Laudrup became Brøndby IF’s first player on the Danish national team. Since then, further 30 players from Brøndby IF have played on the Danish national team. The first Danish championship was won in 1985. Later championships in 1987, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1996, 1997 and 1998 followed. The Danish national cup tournament was won by Brøndby IF in 1989, 1994 and 1998. On the international arena Brøndby IF has made a name for itself as Denmark’s most powerful football club since its first European Cup match in the autumn of 1986. Brøndby IF has played a total of 62 European Cup matches in the three European tournaments. The best result achieved was the semi-final in the UEFA Cup in 1991, but also the quarter finals in the European Champions Cup in 1987 and in the UEFA Cup in 1997 has earned the club international respect. The best single results in this context was the win against Liverpool FC in 1995 and Karlsruher SC in 1996. In 1998 Brøndby IF is playing in Champions League group D with FC Bardelona, Byern München and Manchester United.. Brøndbyernes IF Fodbold A/S was founded on the 15th of May 1978 in connection with the introduction of professional football in Denmark. Brøndbyernes IF Fodbold A/S became listed on the Copenhagen Stock Exchange in 1987. Brøndby IF was with this the second football club in the world to be listed. In 1990 Brøndby IF acquired and rebuild GildhøjCentret, the former Gildhøj School, representing an investment of DKK 65 million. The rebuilding was financed by a capital increase in 1990. The GildhøjCentre is situated in the immediate vicinity of Brøndby Stadium and consists of a hotel with 78 rooms, a health centre and a physiotherapeutic clinic, the Team Danmark hostel and other enterprises. The administration of Brøndby IF is situated in the GildhøjCentre. The chairman of Brøndby IF, lawyer Ole Borch, has been Brøndby IF’s lawyer since 1989 and was elected chairman of the board of directors in 1996. Relations to Brøndby Support http://www.bif-support.dk/ http://www.bif-support.dk/html/billede.htm Pictures http://www.bif-support.dk/html/lyd.htm Sound files http://www.bif-support.dk/html/mighty.htm Denmark’s largest and most active fan club “Brøndby Support”, with more than 16,100 members nationwide, was established in 1993. The fan club is an independent organisation with its own rules and management board. Information is exchanged with Brøndby IF and it is very important for Brøndby IF to be able to have a positive influence on the behaviour of the fan club members both at home as well as away games. Brøndby Support plays an active role in ensuring that wherever Brøndby IF plays, the fans appear in great numbers and support the team with a positive spirit. Danish football supporters are generally positive and non-violent. Examples of the contrary are exceptions to the rule. The Squad Goalkeepers: Mogens Krogh Emeka Andersen Defence: Ole Bjur Per Nielsen Kenneth Rasmussen Søren Colding Anders Bjerregaard Brian Jensen Vragel Da Silva Lasse Vigh Centre: Allan Ravn Jensen John FAXE Jensen Kim Daugaard Jesper Thygesen Aurelius Skarbalius Thomas Lindrup Mikkel Jensen Søren Krogh Mads Olsen Attack: Ruben Bagger Ebbe Sand Bo Hansen Peter Madsen Bent Christensen Thorbjørn Atli Sveinsson * Litauen
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Subject: THE 365 INTERVIEW: TEDDY SHERINGHAM From The Keystone Of England's Euro 96 Attack To Old Trafford Bench-Warmer, Teddy Sheringham Is Releasing His Autobiography - But Don't Go Thinking He's Getting Ready To Hang Up His Boots LIFE is head-scratchingly complicated for Teddy Sheringham right now. The Manchester United and England striker, commonly acknowledged as the perfect international partner for Alan Shearer ever since Euro 96, has found that a star can fall just as quickly as it has risen. Sheringham lost his England place to Liverpool’s Michael Owen during the country’s World Cup campaign during the summer, then returned to Manchester only to find that he was no longer an automatic first team choice there either. The arrival of Dwight Yorke at Old Trafford and rumours of being sold off to re-unite him with his former Spurs and England mentor Terry Venables at Crystal Palace have only made headline writers more convinced of the 32-year-old Sheringham’s fall from grace. And yet suddenly there is a clamour for Sheringham to be re-instated in the white of England. Critics are looking at the rotten form being shown by Glenn Hoddle’s side and are starting to draw the conclusion that Owen and Shearer can’t play together and that Sheringham’s deftness of touch, vision and crucial ability to play ‘in the hole’ are exactly what England have been lacking. Sheringham finds himself in a no-man’s land, unsure as to whether his career is about to be spectacularly resurrected or unceremoniously crushed. Probably the best time to be publishing his book, ‘Teddy Sheringham - My Autobiography’, then. If it’s the beginning of the end, then best to make cash while the sun shines. If it’s a new beginning, media interest in The Thoughts Of Spare Man Ted will be of interest. Just good timing, then? “It’s been planned for ages,” he explained. “I didn’t just decide to do it now. And it’s got nothing to do with Glenn Hoddle’s book or with Tony Adams’ book coming out. We started writing it last year and this book is about my whole career, all 15 years of it, not just the World Cup.” And not just the latest Euro 2000 campaign, either. Sheringham says he feels the pressure placed on the players after England’s poor start to the qualification process just as acutely as anyone else. "We’ve made it difficult for ourselves after a poor first couple of games, but we got three points away in Luxembourg, which isn’t to be sneered at," he insisted. "We were on a hiding to nothing there, because everyone expected us to win. I think that media pressure did affect the team and as a result going into the match we found we were more tense than normal. When we came back from the World Cup, we were classed as one of the best sides in the world. Now we’re being talked about as if we’re one of the worst, so draw your own conclusions as to what I think of the people who write this stuff. As a team you can’t win. The ‘build em up, knock em down’ mentality is still alive and well in Britain. We know the campaign’s not started well, but if you look at the other results that happened around Europe on the same night as the Luxembourg game, there have been a few teams which haven’t done as well as expected. To write us off after three games is naïve. There are plenty of matches still to be played.” Ask him about the turn of events at Old Trafford of late, and Sheringham is equally quick to leap to the defence of club as he is country. “United’s the best place I’ve ever played football,” he argued enthusiastically. “I wish I'd gone there two years ago when Alex Ferguson first tried to sign me. There’s a big difference between playing for United and playing for other clubs. If you're playing for Tottenham and you go away to places like Leicester and Bolton and you draw 0-0, then you’re quite happy. But if it’s 0-0 with ten minutes go and you’re playing for United, the home fans are celebrating as though it’s a great victory and then you’re under pressure to get a goal. A draw isn’t really seen as good enough.” But is no longer being an automatic starter at United not really good enough, either? “It’s different at United,” he countered. “But, having said that, I’m 32 now. I’m getting on and I’m no different to any other player - I want to be playing. There’s plenty of time to rest when you’re finished. The manager has assured me that I’ll be playing first team football this season and that’s good enough for me.” The pressures Sheringham has to work under, the uncertainty, are as nothing compared to the scrutiny that teammate David Beckham is put under, though: “He’s had terrible publicity since the World Cup, absolutely shocking. His sending off in the Argentina game was scandalous and the way he’s been treated since then has been scandalous as well. This might cause a stir, but if he’d done what Bergkamp did when he stamped on that fella in the World Cup, then fair enough. The criticism would have been justified. But…” Sheringham blames Diego Simeone’s play-acting for inflaming the situation, too: “If I was Simeone and my son asked: ‘Did that kick from Beckham hurt?’, then how could I look my son in the face and say: ‘Yes it did hurt. That’s why I fell over and that’s why I screamed like a pig'. I just couldn't do that. I room with David at United and you put a consoling arm round him occasionally, but you try not to let these things affect you. He’s OK, though. He was built up and now he’s being knocked down. That’s what happens. He’ll deal with it. And the same thing will happen with Michael Owen. They’re building him up now, and sooner or later they’ll knock him down, too. That’s what you lot do.” Ask Sheringham the footballing question that’s on everyone’s lips - ‘Just where do you play the lad for England?’ - and he’s equally forthright: “I think David is probably the best crosser of a ball in the world, so why not play him wide on the right? I know he’s supposed to prefer playing more in the centre, but I don’t know. I would have thought you play to his strengths.” Simply finding a place in Glenn Hoddle’s starting line-up is a more pressing concern for Sheringham himself than where he can be most effective. He knows he’s currently lagging behind the Shearer and Owen partnership, despite the calls for his re-instatement and the current state of that particular combination. “In the eyes of the manager, they’re the first choice,” he shrugged. “I didn’t do myself any favours in the World Cup. I came back very disappointed. I thought I’d played very well in the opening game against Tunisia, but I know I let myself down against Romania. So I can’t argue with the manager’s decision to go with Alan and Michael. He decides who plays up front and all I can do is work hard to get back in the team. Players can lose form and I’ve never lost confidence in my own abilities. And I’ll tell you something, if I get another chance in the England side, I’ll grab it with both hands. Don’t you worry about that.”
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Subject: Books RELIVING THE DREAM: THE TRIUMPH & TEARS OF MANCHESTER UNITED'S 1968 EUROPEAN CUP HEROES Derick Allsop (Mainstream, £7.99) Just as the title-drought once loomed large at Old Trafford, now they pine for the European Cup. Thirty-one years have passed since the 4-1 demolition of Benfica. It was the 1968 team which closed the circle opened in Munich a decade earlier, and allowed Busby to claim his undisputed spot as the club's greatest manager. This remains the zenith of United's achievements and Allsop chronicles it well. The difficulty for the club was that, as the fourth goal went in, United had already passed their peak. Charlton was ageing, Best was becoming harder to handle, Shankly, Revie and Clough were wresting supremacy from Old Trafford. But the team that graced Wembley that night are still the real United legends. Schmeichel and company will not supplant them until they get hold of the medal that really counts. ------------------------------------------------------------- CHASING PERFECTION Ryan Giggs witb Colin Cameron (Boxtree, £9.99) If the Nevilles’ diary illustrated how hard United’s youngsters work, then the point is hammered home by Giggsy. Another slim volume, it concerns itself with Ryan's preparation for games, both mental and physical. Presumably designed as a coaching aid, it's all a bit humourless and relentless to make an easy read, but it's a useful flipside to the front-page coverage some of our supposedly hedonistic players get. Youngsters will get a useful insight into the sacrifices needed to make it to the top, but those of you who are past running around may find it all a bit exhausting.
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Subject: Save our Game T-shirts For all of you who are going to the Wombles game tomorrow and even those of you who are not, we have had an initial run of SAVE OUR GAME T-shirts printed. They are white shirts with a black band and a red band with white lettering. In the black band it says: SAVE OUR GAME and in the red band it says: UNITED FOR UNITED. The bands are across the middle of each shirt and sit one on top of the other. They are each 20cm wide by 5cm deep. The shirts will be on sale for £6 each from several different stalls or from IMUSA direct if there is enough demand. If anyone overseas is interested in ordering please contact through the IMUSA list: imusa@egroups.com. Each stall selling the T-shirts will have a leaflet to display which will read: IMUSA SAVE OUR GAME UNITED FOR UNITED These T-shirts are being sold to help IMUSA's action against the BSkyB bid to take over 'our' football club. Profits from the sale of every shirt will go towards the IMUSA 'fighting fund'. To find out more about IMUSA, what they are doing and what you can do to help stop Murdoch, send an SAE to: PO Box 69, Stretford, Manchester M32 0UZ. You can telephone: 0161 839 9941 or you can find us on the Internet at www.imusa.org. If you would like to join IMUSA to help the fight to save Manchester United for United fans please send a £5 cheque with an SAE to the above address. So please BUY THESE T-SHIRTS and help fund the fighting fund. Cheers Paul
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