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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Sun Sep 13 04:30:01 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Manchester United 2 Coventry City 0 
2. Carling/PA Sport
3. Personal Reactions to Simplenet About The Takeover

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Daily RED Trivia  Sunday 14th September:

1907: Jack Ball born in Southport. Ball joined United from Sheffield Wednesday                       where he converted 11 penalties in 1932-33. He scored on his United debut against                   Leicester City in September 1929, and managed 11 goals in 23 games in his first season.
In two spells between 1929-34 he played 50 times and scored 18 goals. Ball joined
Huddersfield Town in September 1934. 

1980: In Division 1 United beat Leicester City 5-0 at Old Trafford with goals from
Nikolai Jovanovic 2, Steve Coppell, Ashley Grimes and Lou Macari watched by
43,229. Team was: Bailey, Nicholl, Albiston, McIlroy, Jovanovic, Buchan, Grimes,
J.Greenhoff, Coppell, Macari (McGarvey), Thomas.

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TODAY!   Coventry  (H) PL 1500 gmt
Wed 16/9 Barcelona (H) CL
Sat 20/9 Arsenal   (A) PL 
Thu 24/9 Liverpool (H) PL 

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http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vsbarcelona.xls Excel File

*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 12/09/98 ***

         Aston Villa   2-0   Wimbledon             32,959
   Charlton Athletic   1-2   Derby County          19,516
             Chelsea   2-1   Nottingham Forest     34,809
             Everton   0-0   Leeds United          36,687
      Leicester City   1-1   Arsenal               21,628
   Manchester United   2-0   Coventry City         55,193
    Newcastle United   4-0   Southampton           36,454
 Sheffield Wednesday   3-0   Blackburn Rovers      20,846
     West Ham United   2-1   Liverpool             26,029

*** FULL LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 12/09/98 ***

Pos Team                  P  W  D  L   F   A   W  D  L   F   A   GD  Pts
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 1  Aston Villa           5  3  0  0   6   1   1  1  0   1   0    6   13
 2  Liverpool             5  1  1  0   2   0   2  0  1   7   4    5   10
 3  Leeds United          5  2  0  0   4   0   0  3  0   1   1    4    9
 4  Derby County          5  1  1  0   1   0   1  2  0   3   2    2    9
 5  Manchester United     4  2  1  0   8   3   0  1  0   0   0    5    8
 6  West Ham United       5  1  1  1   5   5   1  1  0   1   0    1    8
 7  Wimbledon             5  1  1  0   4   2   1  1  1   4   5    1    8
 8  Arsenal               5  1  1  0   2   1   0  3  0   1   1    1    7
 9  Sheffield Wednesday   5  1  0  2   3   2   1  0  1   3   1    3    6
10  Nottingham Forest     5  1  0  1   1   2   1  0  2   4   5   -2    6
11  Tottenham Hotspur     4  1  0  1   2   4   1  0  1   2   3   -3    6
12  Charlton Athletic     5  1  0  1   6   2   0  2  1   1   4    1    5
13  Chelsea               4  1  2  0   3   2   0  0  1   1   2    0    5
14  Leicester City        5  1  1  1   3   2   0  1  1   2   3    0    5
15  Newcastle United      5  1  1  1   5   4   0  1  1   1   2    0    5
16  Everton               5  0  2  1   0   1   1  0  1   2   2   -1    5
17  Middlesbrough         4  0  2  0   1   1   1  0  1   2   3   -1    5
18  Blackburn Rovers      5  1  1  0   1   0   0  0  3   1   6   -4    4
19  Coventry City         5  1  1  0   2   1   0  0  3   0   5   -4    4
20  Southampton           5  0  0  2   2   4   0  0  3   0  12  -14    0

	*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 12/09/98 ***

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
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15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
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"Dwight is right 3 goals 2 games!"

Subject: Manchester United 2 Coventry City 0 DWIGHT YORKE scored his third goal in three games as the soon-to-be Sky Reds cruised to victory over the Sky Blues. Manchester United's record 12.6m signing endeared himself yet further to the Old Trafford faithful following his double against Charlton with a tap-in after 20 minutes. Ronny Johnsen added a second just after the interval to underline United's superiority and seal another three points. With just one win in their last 13 visits and one goal in their last nine, Coventry were always going to be up against it at Old Trafford, and so it proved. Coventry boss and former United midfielder Gordon Strachan's plight was also made worse by his long injury list, and he gave debuts to Marc Edworthy, following his move from Crystal Palace, and 19-year-old Dubliner Barry Quinn. United manager Alex Ferguson also made changes as Ryan Giggs, recovered from illness, and the fit-again Gary Neville returned to his awesome line-up. While everything may be running smoothly on the pitch, some fans continued their campaign against the BSkyB takeover bid off it. The Independent Manchester United Supporters Association (IMUSA) distributed leaflets outside the ground publicising Tuesday night's protest rally at the Bridgewater Hall, although there was little sign of dissent within. Paul Telfer briefly threatened to spoil the atmosphere inside when he gave United an early fright, nodding the ball wide of Peter Schmeichel's goal following a poor defensive header from Jaap Stam. United then took over, and Paul Scholes' shot after 10 minutes was deflected for a corner after he had been set up by Yorke. The former Villa striker was again looking dangerous and he headed wide from David Beckham's cross, as United turned the screw. Coventry were left feeling aggrieved when Darren Huckerby broke through and netted, only to be ruled offside, but there was no argument over Yorke's opening goal for United after 20 minutes. Gary Breen could only partially halt Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and when Magnus Hedman failed to clear Beckham's cross, Scholes played the ball back in for Yorke to turn it home into the unguarded goal with a mis-kick. David Burrows was booked on 31 minutes after he scythed Beckham down in the right-hand corner before Giggs went down the opposite flank to set up Phil Neville but neither he, nor Yorke - on the end of Scholes' shot after it had taken a deflection - could beat Hedman. United finally doubled their lead two minutes after the interval with a rare Johnsen effort. Yorke's shot from Giggs' corner was blocked and when Scholes followed up the Norwegian got a touch to score his third league goal for United. Beckham was just inches away from scoring a third after 56 minutes from a free-kick. George Boateng fouled Scholes 20 yards out, and Beckham curled the ball just past Hedman's goal. Coventry fired a warning to United that they were not dead and buried yet when Telfer flashed a shot wide from Dion Dublin's lay off. Then Beckham displayed the petulant side to his character when he was booked for disputing a free-kick, and when Yorke tried to intervene he was shown the yellow card as well. Coventry threatened to pull one back when first Phil Neville headed Telfer's cross away from the unguarded goal before Boateng was cursing himself after he shot tamely at Schmeichel from a good opening. But such was United's control that Ferguson replaced Beckham and Giggs with Nicky Butt and Jesper Blomqvist 12 minutes from time. Boateng thought he had pulled a goal back for the visitors seven minutes from time when he scored direct from a free kick, but the referee had awarded an indirect free-kick and Telfer shot straight at Schmeichel from the second attempt. It all proved academic, as United recorded their second League win to move closer to the Premiership leaders.
"Dwight is right 3 goals 2 games!"

Subject: Carling/PA Sport Man United (1) 2 v Coventry (0) 0 FT 12/09/98 3.00 Yorke 21 Johnson 48 Dwight Yorke scored his third goal in three games as the soon-to-be Sky Reds cruised to a 2-0 FA Carling Premiership victory over the Sky Blues at Old Trafford. United's record 12.6million signing endeared himself yet further to the Old Trafford faithful following his double against Charlton with a tap-in after 20 minutes. Ronny Johnsen added a second just after the interval to underline United's superiority and seal another three points. With just one win in their last 13 visits and one goal in their last nine, Coventry were always going to be up against the odds at Old Trafford, and so it proved. Coventry boss and former United midfielder Gordon Strachan's plight was also made worse by his long injury list, and he gave debuts to Marc Edworthy, following his move from Crystal Palace, and 19-year-old Dubliner Barry Quinn. United manager Alex Ferguson also made changes as Ryan Giggs, recovered from illness, and the fit-again Gary Neville returned to his awesome line-up. While everything may be running smoothly on the pitch, some fans continued their campaign against the BSkyB takeover bid off it. The Independent Manchester United Supporters Association (IMUSA) distributed leaflets outside the ground publicising Tuesday night's protest rally at the Bridgewater Hall, although there was little sign of dissent within. Paul Telfer briefly threatened to spoil the atmosphere inside when he gave United an early fright after he nodded the ball wide of Peter Schmeichel's goal early on following a poor defensive header from Jaap Stam. United then took over, and Paul Scholes' shot after 10 minutes was deflected for a corner after he had been set up by Yorke. Yorke was again looking dangerous and he headed wide from David Beckham's cross, as United turned the screw. Coventry were left feeling aggrieved when Darren Huckerby broke through and netted, only to be ruled offside, but there was no argument over Yorke's opening goal for United after 20 minutes. Gary Breen could only partially halt Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and when Magnus Hedman failed to clear Beckham's cross, Scholes played the ball back in for Yorke to turn it home into the unguarded goal with a mis-kick. David Burrows was booked on 31 minutes after he scythed Beckham down in the right-hand corner after the England midfielder had beaten him. Phil Neville shot over after 37 minutes following a penetrating run by Giggs down the left wing in front of the 55,193 crowd, the biggest of the season so far at Old Trafford. Yorke almost had a second when he got on the end of Scholes' shot after it had taken a deflection, but Hedman saved the former Aston Villa man's point-blank effort. United doubled their lead two minutes after the interval with a rare Johnsen effort. Yorke's shot from Giggs's corner was blocked and when Scholes followed up the Norwegian got a touch to score his third league goal for United. Beckham was just inches away from scoring a third after 56 minutes from a free-kick. George Boateng fouled Scholes 20 yards out, and Beckham curled the ball just past Hedman's goal. Coventry fired a warning to United that they were not dead and buried yet when Telfer flashed a shot wide from Dion Dublin's lay off. Beckham displayed the petulant side to his character when he was booked for disputing a free-kick, and when Yorke tried to intervene he was shown the yellow card as well. Coventry threatened to pull one back when first Phil Neville headed Telfer's cross away from the unguarded goal before Boateng was cursing himself after he shot tamely at Schmeichel from a good opening. Such was United's control that Ferguson replaced Beckham and Giggs with Nicky Butt and Jesper Blomqvist 12 minutes from time. Boateng thought he had pulled a goal back for the visitors seven minutes from time when he scored direct from a free-kick. But the referee had awarded an indirect free-kick and Telfer shot straight at Schmeichel from the second attempt. It all proved academic, as United recorded their second League win to move closer to the Premiership leaders. Man United: Schmeichel, G. Neville, Johnsen (Berg, 88), Stam, Beckham (Butt, 78), Giggs (Blomqvist, 78), P.Neville, Keane, Scholes, Yorke, Solskjaer. Subs not used: Cole, Van Der Gouw. Booked: Beckham. Coventry: Hedman, Edworthy, Burrows, Breen, Wallemme, Telfer, Huckerby (Hall, 73), Dublin, Boateng, Shaw, Quinn. Subs not used: Ogrizovic, Shilton, Williams, Soltvedt. Booked: Burrows. Attendance: 55,193. Referee: U Rennie (Sheffield). Manchester Utd 2 v 0 Coventry By David Anderson, PA Sport Dwight Yorke underlined his growing hero status at Manchester United when he scored his third goal for his new club against Coventry at Old Trafford. United's 12.6million record signing picked up where he left off against Charlton and his goal after 20 minutes of his third United appearance was well deserved. Coventry will feel slightly aggrieved after Darren Huckerby was halted in his tracks by an offside flag when he was clean through. United settled quickly into their slick passing game, and Yorke laid the ball back to Giggs who released Solskjaer down the left only for Jean-Guy Wallemme to tackle him at the expense of a corner. Richard Shaw went down hurt when a Paul Scholes drive hit him after four minutes, but he was soon on his feet again. Paul Telfer nodded the ball wide of Peter Schmeichel's goal after a poor defensive header from Jaap Stam. United duly took the lead on 20 minutes with that man Yorke once again on target. Magnus Hedman got a hand to Beckham's cross only for Scholes to play the ball back in for Yorke to turn it home into the unguarded net for his third United goal. United fans voiced their concern over the BSkyB deal and passion for their team when they rose as one to chant 'Stand up if you love Man U'. David Burrows was booked on 31 minutes after he scythed Beckham down in the right-hand corner after the England midfielder had beaten him. Phil Neville shot over after 37 minutes following a penetrating run by Giggs down the left wing in front of a 55,193 crowd - the biggest of the season so far at Old Trafford. Yorke almost had a second when he got on the end of Scholes' shot after it had taken a deflection and ballooned up into the air, but Hedman saved the former Aston Villa man's point-blank effort. HT Man Utd 1 Coventry 0 United doubled their lead two minutes after the interval with a rare Ronny Johnsen effort. Yorke's shot from Giggs's corner was blocked and when Scholes followed up the Norwegian got a touch to score only his third league goal for United. The goal came at a bad time for Coventry as they had regrouped at half-time in an effort to find a way back into the game. Beckham was just inches away from adding a third for United after 56 minutes from a free-kick. George Boateng fouled Scholes 20 yards out and Beckham curled the ball just past Hedman's goal. Coventry proved they were not dead and buried yet when Telfer flashed a shot wide from Dion Dublin's lay-off. Beckham displayed the petulant side to his character when he was booked for disputing a free-kick and when Yorke tried to intervene he was shown the yellow card as well. But Beckham then blazed wide after 64 minutes from another flowing United move. PA Sporting Life
"Dwight is right 3 goals 2 games!"

Subject: 5 Personal Reactions to Simplenet About The Takeover Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:42:45 +0800 from Object Ssale I'm a die hard red devil fan and would like to commend on the issue. What's the point of selling Manchester United. For more profit??OR to get more cash for expansion??Why disturb the equilibrium?? The club is on the right tack, aiming for european trophy and local dominance and the players are superb and ready, why sell the club? If it is for profit, the club itself can get more than that throughout the years. Why sell the club to others when it thrive .The club or the players will surely be affected by the changes. For the benefit of the club and all the fans around the world, don't sell. However, it is still the management's deccision that is final. If it would do the club some good, why not? *************************************** Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:36:59 +0800 From: Susan Cook Dear United site, I am appalled to think that the Club I have supported for over 30 years, from which I could hear the 'roar' on Saturdays I wasn't allowed to go to the match, which has such a proud tradition of being 'the people's club' could be bought by a megalomaniac Australian. An Australian who is not interested in football, only in how to make sure he gets a good deal when the next round of bargaining over who should show games to the UK and beyond. And who may charge us to watch them over the air! PLEASE do not allow this to happen. Please contract as many shareholders as possible and urge them to listen to the fans-worldwide--(I now live in Singapore, but used to live near Trafford Park Dock Gates in Salford!) who want their club (And believe me, it is their club--I've met fans in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia who are true Man U supporters) to stay Mancunian. I suggest you get the vote now page onto it's own website to make it more accessible--it took me a while to find it this morning!- and get more votes to show the shareholders. I wonder what Murdoch would do if no one turned up to the next game as a measure of their disapproval of his offer? A hard thing to ask of any supporter but after all, we are what makes the team so successful. Of course, the players are the ones who win the matches, but without the original money supplied by ticket sales and merchandising they wouldn't have been able to buy the players! Anything I can do to help, let me know. (Unfortunately I don't have 625 million pounds...) Sue Cook ************************************* From: "John Ryan" He must not be allowed to destroy the club we love NO TO MURDOCH John Ryan ************************************ From: hdeane Murdoch & United As with most united fans my knee jerk reaction to the Murdoch deal has been altered with time. Unlike most fans however, I was initially pleased at the prospects of Fergie, trolley in hand, going around Europe with as much cash as he needed. Murdoch I thought, brings cash coupled with a radical need to succeed, so why not sit back and enjoy the ride. This was until the media coverage, particularly on Sky Speculation, kept telling me that football is an industry now; in the 90's its all about big business. Any alternative view is, for them, just anachronistic romanticism. Its all about the cash, its a business. I'm of the opinion that such a view is arse and if football proceeds in this fashion it cannot sustain itself. Without the fans football is nothing, it has no market, no consumers. Football always has been, and always will be about the fans, the market. Its basic economics, without the market the product dies. Now football support is an interesting phenomenon. People don't support football clubs based on their bank balances, Monaco may be as rich as the sultan of Brunei's Dad's Boss, but no-one gives a shit. People support clubs based upon identity. They identify with the nature of the club, what it symbolizes. A base example would be football in Glasgow, you support a club and thus become a consumer, a member of footballs market, based upon your identity being interwoven with the identity of a club. If Rangers were as big as Microsoft it would make fuck all difference to a wee Tim from the Falls Road. He/she supports the Club because of what it represents. The tragedy of the Murdoch deal is that, like it or not, Manchester United now represents something different than it used to. Its now a symbol for something else. The club of Busby, of Best and Law, of Robbo and Paul Mcgrath in Paddy Crerand's pub, of magic and identity within the theater of Dreams, this club, is in danger of being swamped by new symbols, a new identity. An identity forged of global economics of faceless capitalism utterly alien to the working class socialism of a Busby, or even, as I naively believed, of a union worker from the Glasgow dockyards. Fergie has come a long way from his dockyards, he's come a long way from his roots, and so too, I fear, has Manchester United. ****************************************** From: Hugh Mc Gauran Look on the bright side I support Manu and always will I support the Football Club NOT the PLC. Manchester United will always be first and foremost a Football Club no matter who owns it. United will always be a great club no matter what. One of the few good things about the proposed takeover is that it might get rid of the bandwagon supporters who think that to say they used to support the club but stoped because they hate Rupert Murdoch Rupert Murdoch has fufiled a dream i would like to have had to be able to say that I was the owner of the GREATEST football club in the world. He bought the club to make sure that when the time came to renew the lease to the TV rights that he would have first refusal now he has got that I dont believe that much will change with the Club obviously we will lose a money mad chairman THANK YOU GOD, but this will be one company that would keep anyone happy it makes an obscene profit every year so the only thing that might happen is that more money will be pumped into the club which cant be a bad thing. Unfortunately United has been known as a producer not as a buyer Obviously they buy but of the current team 10 -11 are products of a youth system if we start buying Ronaldos or the like we are buying mercenaries I want players like Andy Cole Ole Solskjaer, Japp Stam people who are will to make sacrafices for the club they love. I dont want some foreign footballer to come in and get 70-80 grand a week and play without pride in the Club.Thats why I am glad that Kluivert didnt come and that Jaap Stam did Jaap proved that he loves the club by forfeiting the guts of 2 million of transfer fee so he could play here.thats the type of player I want at our Club. I want players at United who want to win for the club and the supporters not because they will make a big bonus if they win.i have to admit i thought Dwight Yorke was a bit of a mercenary but when i heard that he would have made more money had he stayed at Villa another good buy I can seee now but can he do it against barca I think so I hope so I only hope that Andy doesnt get relegated to the bench for the season when that lad scores there is nothing like it the smile says it all i can safely say there is not one true united supporter who can say now that they dont like Andy Cole. We have the complete team now and remember Manchester United is NOTHING WITHOUT THE FOOTBALL TEAM they are the reason the Company functions Web page : www.csn.ul.ie/~cantona
"Dwight is right 3 goals 2 games!"

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