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Date: Sun Sep 13 04:30:01 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. Manchester United 2 Coventry City 0
2. Carling/PA Sport
3. Personal Reactions to Simplenet About The Takeover
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Daily RED Trivia Sunday 14th September:
1907: Jack Ball born in Southport. Ball joined United from Sheffield Wednesday where he converted 11 penalties in 1932-33. He scored on his United debut against Leicester City in September 1929, and managed 11 goals in 23 games in his first season.
In two spells between 1929-34 he played 50 times and scored 18 goals. Ball joined
Huddersfield Town in September 1934.
1980: In Division 1 United beat Leicester City 5-0 at Old Trafford with goals from
Nikolai Jovanovic 2, Steve Coppell, Ashley Grimes and Lou Macari watched by
43,229. Team was: Bailey, Nicholl, Albiston, McIlroy, Jovanovic, Buchan, Grimes,
J.Greenhoff, Coppell, Macari (McGarvey), Thomas.
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TODAY! Coventry (H) PL 1500 gmt
Wed 16/9 Barcelona (H) CL
Sat 20/9 Arsenal (A) PL
Thu 24/9 Liverpool (H) PL
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http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vsbarcelona.xls Excel File
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 12/09/98 ***
Aston Villa 2-0 Wimbledon 32,959
Charlton Athletic 1-2 Derby County 19,516
Chelsea 2-1 Nottingham Forest 34,809
Everton 0-0 Leeds United 36,687
Leicester City 1-1 Arsenal 21,628
Manchester United 2-0 Coventry City 55,193
Newcastle United 4-0 Southampton 36,454
Sheffield Wednesday 3-0 Blackburn Rovers 20,846
West Ham United 2-1 Liverpool 26,029
*** FULL LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 12/09/98 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Aston Villa 5 3 0 0 6 1 1 1 0 1 0 6 13
2 Liverpool 5 1 1 0 2 0 2 0 1 7 4 5 10
3 Leeds United 5 2 0 0 4 0 0 3 0 1 1 4 9
4 Derby County 5 1 1 0 1 0 1 2 0 3 2 2 9
5 Manchester United 4 2 1 0 8 3 0 1 0 0 0 5 8
6 West Ham United 5 1 1 1 5 5 1 1 0 1 0 1 8
7 Wimbledon 5 1 1 0 4 2 1 1 1 4 5 1 8
8 Arsenal 5 1 1 0 2 1 0 3 0 1 1 1 7
9 Sheffield Wednesday 5 1 0 2 3 2 1 0 1 3 1 3 6
10 Nottingham Forest 5 1 0 1 1 2 1 0 2 4 5 -2 6
11 Tottenham Hotspur 4 1 0 1 2 4 1 0 1 2 3 -3 6
12 Charlton Athletic 5 1 0 1 6 2 0 2 1 1 4 1 5
13 Chelsea 4 1 2 0 3 2 0 0 1 1 2 0 5
14 Leicester City 5 1 1 1 3 2 0 1 1 2 3 0 5
15 Newcastle United 5 1 1 1 5 4 0 1 1 1 2 0 5
16 Everton 5 0 2 1 0 1 1 0 1 2 2 -1 5
17 Middlesbrough 4 0 2 0 1 1 1 0 1 2 3 -1 5
18 Blackburn Rovers 5 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 3 1 6 -4 4
19 Coventry City 5 1 1 0 2 1 0 0 3 0 5 -4 4
20 Southampton 5 0 0 2 2 4 0 0 3 0 12 -14 0
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 12/09/98 ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
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"Dwight is right 3 goals 2 games!"
Subject: Manchester United 2 Coventry City 0
DWIGHT YORKE scored his third goal in three
games as the soon-to-be Sky Reds cruised to
victory over the Sky Blues.
Manchester United's record £12.6m signing
endeared himself yet further to the Old Trafford
faithful following his double against Charlton with a
tap-in after 20 minutes. Ronny Johnsen added a
second just after the interval to underline United's
superiority and seal another three points.
With just one win in their last 13 visits and one goal
in their last nine, Coventry were always going to be
up against it at Old Trafford, and so it proved.
Coventry boss and former United midfielder Gordon
Strachan's plight was also made worse by his long
injury list, and he gave debuts to Marc Edworthy,
following his move from Crystal Palace, and
19-year-old Dubliner Barry Quinn. United manager
Alex Ferguson also made changes as Ryan Giggs,
recovered from illness, and the fit-again Gary
Neville returned to his awesome line-up.
While everything may be running smoothly on the
pitch, some fans continued their campaign against
the BSkyB takeover bid off it. The Independent
Manchester United Supporters Association (IMUSA)
distributed leaflets outside the ground publicising
Tuesday night's protest rally at the Bridgewater
Hall, although there was little sign of dissent within.
Paul Telfer briefly threatened to spoil the
atmosphere inside when he gave United an early
fright, nodding the ball wide of Peter Schmeichel's
goal following a poor defensive header from Jaap
Stam. United then took over, and Paul Scholes' shot
after 10 minutes was deflected for a corner after
he had been set up by Yorke.
The former Villa striker was again looking
dangerous and he headed wide from David
Beckham's cross, as United turned the screw.
Coventry were left feeling aggrieved when Darren
Huckerby broke through and netted, only to be
ruled offside, but there was no argument over
Yorke's opening goal for United after 20 minutes.
Gary Breen could only partially halt Ole Gunnar
Solskjaer and when Magnus Hedman failed to clear
Beckham's cross, Scholes played the ball back in for
Yorke to turn it home into the unguarded goal with
a mis-kick.
David Burrows was booked on 31 minutes after he
scythed Beckham down in the right-hand corner
before Giggs went down the opposite flank to set
up Phil Neville but neither he, nor Yorke - on the
end of Scholes' shot after it had taken a deflection -
could beat Hedman.
United finally doubled their lead two minutes after
the interval with a rare Johnsen effort. Yorke's
shot from Giggs' corner was blocked and when
Scholes followed up the Norwegian got a touch to
score his third league goal for United. Beckham was
just inches away from scoring a third after 56
minutes from a free-kick. George Boateng fouled
Scholes 20 yards out, and Beckham curled the ball
just past Hedman's goal.
Coventry fired a warning to United that they were
not dead and buried yet when Telfer flashed a shot
wide from Dion Dublin's lay off. Then Beckham
displayed the petulant side to his character when
he was booked for disputing a free-kick, and when
Yorke tried to intervene he was shown the yellow
card as well.
Coventry threatened to pull one back when first Phil
Neville headed Telfer's cross away from the
unguarded goal before Boateng was cursing
himself after he shot tamely at Schmeichel from a
good opening. But such was United's control that
Ferguson replaced Beckham and Giggs with Nicky
Butt and Jesper Blomqvist 12 minutes from time.
Boateng thought he had pulled a goal back for the
visitors seven minutes from time when he scored
direct from a free kick, but the referee had
awarded an indirect free-kick and Telfer shot
straight at Schmeichel from the second attempt.
It all proved academic, as United recorded their
second League win to move closer to the
Premiership leaders.
Subject: 5 Personal Reactions to Simplenet About The Takeover
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:42:45 +0800
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Object Ssale
I'm a die hard red devil fan and would like to commend on the issue.
What's the point of selling Manchester United. For more profit??OR to
get more cash for expansion??Why disturb the equilibrium??
The club is on the right tack, aiming for european trophy and local
dominance and the players are superb and ready, why sell the club?
If it is for profit, the club itself can get more than that throughout
the years.
Why sell the club to others when it thrive .The club or the players will
surely be affected by the changes.
For the benefit of the club and all the fans around the world, don't
sell.
However, it is still the management's deccision that is final. If it
would do the club some good, why not?
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:36:59 +0800
From: Susan Cook
Dear United site,
I am appalled to think that the Club I have supported for over 30 years,
from which I could hear the 'roar' on Saturdays I wasn't allowed to go
to the match, which has such a proud tradition of being 'the people's
club' could be bought by a megalomaniac Australian. An Australian who is
not interested in football, only in how to make sure he gets a good deal
when the next round of bargaining over who should show games to the UK
and beyond. And who may charge us to watch them over the air!
PLEASE do not allow this to happen. Please contract as many shareholders
as possible and urge them to listen to the fans-worldwide--(I now live
in Singapore, but used to live near Trafford Park Dock Gates in
Salford!) who want their club (And believe me, it is their club--I've
met fans in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia who are true Man
U supporters) to stay Mancunian.
I suggest you get the vote now page onto it's own website to make it
more accessible--it took me a while to find it this morning!- and get
more votes to show the shareholders.
I wonder what Murdoch would do if no one turned up to the next game as a
measure of their disapproval of his offer? A hard thing to ask of any
supporter but after all, we are what makes the team so successful. Of
course, the players are the ones who win the matches, but without the
original money supplied by ticket sales and merchandising they wouldn't
have been able to buy the players!
Anything I can do to help, let me know.
(Unfortunately I don't have 625 million pounds...)
Sue Cook
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From: "John Ryan"
He must not be allowed to destroy the club we love
NO TO MURDOCH
John Ryan
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From: hdeane
Murdoch & United
As with most united fans my knee jerk reaction to the Murdoch deal has been altered with time. Unlike most fans however, I was initially pleased at the prospects of Fergie, trolley in hand, going around Europe with as much cash as he needed. Murdoch I thought, brings cash coupled with a radical need to succeed, so why not sit back and enjoy the ride. This was until the media coverage, particularly on Sky Speculation, kept telling me that football is an industry now; in the 90's its all about big business. Any alternative view is, for them, just anachronistic romanticism. Its all about the cash, its a business.
I'm of the opinion that such a view is arse and if football proceeds in this fashion it cannot sustain itself. Without the fans football is nothing, it has no market, no consumers. Football always has been, and always will be about the fans, the market. Its basic economics, without the market the product dies.
Now football support is an interesting phenomenon. People don't support football clubs based on their bank balances, Monaco may be as rich as the sultan of Brunei's Dad's Boss, but no-one gives a shit. People support clubs based upon identity. They identify with the nature of the club, what it symbolizes. A base example would be football in Glasgow, you support a club and thus become a consumer, a member of footballs market, based upon your identity being interwoven with the identity of a club. If Rangers were as big as Microsoft it would make fuck all difference to a wee Tim from the Falls Road. He/she supports the Club because of what it represents.
The tragedy of the Murdoch deal is that, like it or not, Manchester United now represents something different than it used to. Its now a symbol for something else. The club of Busby, of Best and Law, of Robbo and Paul Mcgrath in Paddy Crerand's pub, of magic and identity within the theater of Dreams, this club, is in danger of being swamped by new symbols, a new identity. An identity forged of global economics of faceless capitalism utterly alien to the working class socialism of a Busby, or even, as I naively believed, of a union worker from the Glasgow dockyards. Fergie has come a long way from his dockyards, he's come a long way from his roots, and so too, I fear, has Manchester United.
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From: Hugh Mc Gauran
Look on the bright side
I support Manu and always will
I support the Football Club NOT the PLC.
Manchester United will always be first and foremost a Football Club no matter who owns it. United will always be a great club no matter what. One of the few good things about the proposed takeover is that it might get rid of the bandwagon supporters who think that to say they used to support the club but stoped because they hate Rupert Murdoch
Rupert Murdoch has fufiled a dream i would like to have had to be able to say that I was the owner of the GREATEST football club in the world.
He bought the club to make sure that when the time came to renew the lease to the TV rights that he would have first refusal now he has got that I dont believe that much will change with the Club obviously we will lose a money mad chairman THANK YOU GOD, but this will be one company that would keep anyone happy it makes an obscene profit every year so the only thing that might happen is that more money will be pumped into the club which cant be a bad thing.
Unfortunately United has been known as a producer not as a buyer Obviously they buy but of the current team 10 -11 are products of a youth system if we start buying Ronaldos or the like we are buying mercenaries I want players like Andy Cole Ole Solskjaer, Japp Stam people who are will to make sacrafices for the club they love.
I dont want some foreign footballer to come in and get 70-80 grand a week and play without pride in the Club.Thats why I am glad that Kluivert didnt come and that Jaap Stam did Jaap proved that he loves the club by forfeiting the guts of 2 million of transfer fee so he could play here.thats the type of player I want at our Club.
I want players at United who want to win for the club and the supporters not because they will make a big bonus if they win.i have to admit i thought Dwight Yorke was a bit of a mercenary but when i heard that he would have made more money had he stayed at Villa another good buy I can seee now but can he do it against barca I think so I hope so I only hope that Andy doesnt get relegated to the bench for the season when that lad scores there is nothing like it the smile says it all i can safely say there is not one true united supporter who can say now that they dont like Andy Cole. We have the complete team now
and remember Manchester United is NOTHING WITHOUT THE FOOTBALL TEAM they are the reason the Company functions
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"Dwight is right 3 goals 2 games!"
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