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Date: Tue May 12 16:07:13 GMT+00:00 1998
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Dublin, Owen, Sutton -- joint top-scorers in the league.
Andy Cole 8th!
All Competitions Andy is TOP!
Top scorers All Competitions
Cole (Man United) ............... 25
Hartson (West Ham) .............. 24
Dublin (Coventry) ............... 23
Owen (Liverpool) ............... 23
Bergkamp (Arsenal) .............. 22
Hasselbank (Leeds) .............. 22
Sutton (Blackburn) .............. 21
Gallacher (Blackburn) ........... 20
Vialli (Chelsea) ................ 19
Fjortoft (Barnsley) ............. 18
Wanchope (Derby) ................ 17
Huckerby (Coventry) ............. 15
Jansen (C Palace) ............... 15
Overmars (Arsenal) .............. 15
Flo (Chelsea) ................... 15
This Issue:
1. Andy Cole and the season
2. Reserves Update
3. Mirror Report: KING COLE STAKES LATE CALL-UP CLAIM
4. Teamtalk MONDAY, MAY 11, 1998
5. Wes Brown
6. MEn: Beckham set to turn heads with new five-year deal
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 08:23:43 -0400
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From: Dudley Upton
Subject: Andy Cole and the season
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Andy Cole is on top of the Premiership Goal scorers list:
L F C E O T
Cole Man United 15 5 0 5 0 25
Hartson West Ham 15 3 6 0 0 24
Dublin Coventry 18 4 1 0 0 23
Owen Liverpool 18 0 4 1 0 23
Bergkamp Arsenal 16 3 2 1 0 22
However, I disagree with the ET listing because I have him on 26 goals, 16 in the league:
Sat August 30 v Coventry City 3:0, Cole, Keane Poborsky
Sat October 18 v Derby County 2:2, Sheringham, Cole
Sat October 25 v Barnsley 7:0, Cole 3, Giggs 2, Scholes, Poborsky
Sat November 1 v Sheffield Wednesday 6:1, Cole 2, Sheringham, 2, Solskjaer 2
Sat November 22 v Wimbledon 5:2, Butt, Beckham 2, Scholes, Cole
Sat December 6 v Liverpool 3:1, Cole 2, Beckham
Sun December 21 v Newcastle 1:0, Cole
Fri December 26 v Everton 2:0, Berg, Cole
Sat February 7 v Bolton 1:1, Cole
Mon April 6 v Blackburn 3:1, Cole, Scholes, Beckham
Mon April 8 v Crystal Palace 3:0, Scholes, Butt, Cole
Sun May 10 v Barnsley 2:0, Sheringham, Cole
So although I do not agree with the ET numbers, Andy still tops the list so he has enjoyed a good season. I do not think Andy Cole is off form, in decline, misses too many chances, is not as good as --- (fill in the blank), he has played for the team better than many; has refused to give up when others stopped trying, and has always been willing to die for the cause (figuratively speaking).
The season has ended without significant trophies, but in comparison to the seventies and eighties, it has been a good one. There are some interesting young players coming through, and it showed on Sunday against the relegation fodder Barnsley side. Manchester United played with a commitment even though the championship had been conceded - and no supporter could ask for more.
Jaap Stam will add significance to the midfield, and with Roy Keane coming back after missing most of this season, we have to improve in 1998/9. If Alex Furguson continues to add strength to an already seasoned young side, then I like our chances to improve on the European adventures we embarked on so optimistically at the start of this season.
I too am sorry to see Choccy leave Old Trafford, but I have to believe that he is only temporarily absent before returning to some supporting role in the future.
Reds, do not be disheartened by a one point loss of a championship - believe in the future of our well blended youth and experience. Never give up.
Support the Reds unequivocally.
Dudley Upton
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:07:57 -0700
To: suggs@tiac.net
From: Barry Leeming (by way of Red Devils Mailing List )
Subject: Reserves Update
Updated 11/05/98
Pontins League Premier Division
Results from last week:
Derby County 3 Liverpool 1
Leeds United 1 Everton 0
Leeds United 5 Blackburn Rovers 0
All facts and figures updated by
Paul Hinson P.L.Hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk
Webmaster barry@www.red11.org
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PONTINS PREMIER LEAGUE
P W D L F A Pts
Leeds United (Champs) 24 15 3 6 50 27 48
UNITED 24 14 4 6 55 29 46
Blackburn Rovers 24 11 7 6 41 33 40
Aston Villa 23 10 6 7 33 23 37
Birmingham City 24 9 7 8 33 29 34
Stoke City 24 10 4 1035 41 34
Everton 24 9 6 9 33 32 33
Derby County 24 10 3 1134 46 33
Preston North End 24 10 3 1132 48 33
Liverpool 24 8 5 1132 43 29
Nott Forest 24 7 5 1237 51 26
Tranmere Rovers 23 4 9 1138 48 21
Sheffield Wednesday 24 4 7 1327 40 19
UNITED just fail to retain another title!
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Lancashire League Division 1
Last Weeks/Saturdays results:
Bolton Wanderers 2 Marine 0
Everton 3 Blackburn Rovers 0
Preston North End 0 Oldham Athletic 1
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P W D L F A Pts
UNITED 'A' (Champs) 30 22 6 2 80 29 72
Everton 'A' 28 15 7 6 66 34 52
Crewe Alexandra Reserv 28 16 4 8 67 42 52
Blackburn Rovers 'A' 30 13 9 8 61 36 48
Oldham Athletic 'A' 30 14 6 1049 40 48
Bury 'A' 29 13 9 7 44 41 48
Burnley 'A' 30 13 6 1155 55 45
Liverpool 'A' 29 13 5 1143 42 44
Manchester City 'A' 30 11 8 1147 39 41
Bolton Wanderers 'A' 29 12 5 1236 38 41
Tranmere Rovers 'A' 30 10 7 1357 67 37
Wrexham 'A' 30 10 4 1659 78 34
Morecambe Reserves 30 7 11 1241 56 32
Stoke City 'A' 29 8 6 1537 48 30
Preston North End 'A' 29 3 6 2022 64 15
Marine Reserves 30 4 3 2324 82 15
United's Biggest Wins:
9-0 v Marine Reserves & 5-0 v Tranmere 'A'
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Lancashire League Division 2
Last Weeks/Saturdays results:
Blackpool 1 Liverpool 3
Everton 3 Burnley 0
Stockport County 3 Carlisle United 3
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P W D L F A Pts
Blackburn Rovers 'B' 33 26 4 3 105 27 82
Everton 'B' 35 25 6 4 88 33 81
Tranmere Rovers 'B' 35 21 8 6 77 49 71
Blackpool 'A' 35 21 4 1065 48 67
UNITED 'B' 36 21 3 12110 57 66
Stockport County 'A' 36 17 6 13101 81 57
Oldham Athletic 'B' 36 17 6 1353 43 57
Wigan Athletic 'A' 35 17 5 1357 55 56
Wrexham 'B' 36 16 5 1553 54 53
Manchester City 'B' 36 15 4 1770 62 49
Liverpool 'B' 35 14 6 1566 57 48
Crewe Alexandra 'A' 34 14 6 1462 62 48
Carlisle United 'A' 35 11 8 1654 68 41
Chester City 'A' 35 11 6 1869 82 39
Burnley 'B' 35 11 6 1852 73 39
Rochdale 'A' 35 10 7 1850 74 37
Bury 'B' 36 8 4 2432 88 28
Marine Youth 35 4 4 2739 87 16
Morecambe 'A' 36 3 6 2736 141 15
Theatre Of Dreams Premier League table
All facts and figures updated by
Paul Hinson P.L.Hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk
Webmaster Mufc@simplenet.com
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 16:46:52 +0800
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From: Red Devil Marcus
Subject: Mirror Report: KING COLE STAKES LATE CALL-UP CLAIM
Comments: To: Red Devil List ,
Darul Kisai , Darul
To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
KING COLE STAKES LATE CALL-UP CLAIM
BARNSLEY 0 MAN UTD 2
ANDY COLE gave England boss Glenn Hoddle a reminder that he can provide the
"ooh la la" in France next month.
The Manchester United striker is on the fringe of Hoddle's World Cup squad.
But Cole for one hasn't given up on the scrap for the last few remaining
places for a trip to their Brittany base.
He could easily have put his feet up for the final Premiership weekend and
gone on his holidays along with United's other England stars David Beckham,
Paul Scholes and Gary and Phil Neville.
But Cole chose to stay and hone his sharpness against relegated Barnsley.
His decision was rewarded with a spectacular fifth minute goal when he
turned to rocket a shot past keeper David Watson.
It was Cole's 25th of the season and came with perfect timing for himself -
and Hoddle.
The England boss would also have been notified about the brilliant display
of his another England man Nicky Butt.
There was little to play for against Barnsley other than pride and Butt had
that by the bucket load as United brought in the kids and rested nine
regular stars.
It was an emotional farewell to the Premiership for the Barnsley boys whose
supporters at least promised a quick return to the big time.
Banners proclaimed "we are only on loan to the Nationwide".
It was a defiant response to relegation that was confirmed just eight sad
days ago.
They dropped down, though, with their heads held high after a season of
adventurous football that in the end cost them their Premiership place.
But along their rocky road they picked up many friends, including United
manager Alex Ferguson.
He is sorry to see them go and has paid a tribute to Barnsley from the very
first kick back in August.
His was one of many touching gestures sent Oakwell's way.
Quite frankly, though, Barnsley boss Danny Wilson could well have done
without all the plaudits.
He says in his final epitaph: "We've made a lot of friends, but friends
don't get you points.
"I don't give a damn about making friends. We are all professional and we've
all got a living to make.
"The bottom line is results. and that is the mentality which we have to show
next year.
"We spent long enough trying for promotion and our fans appreciate how hard
a division the First is to get out of.
"We don't have a divine right to promotion just because we've come out of
the Premiership."
On this evidence, Wilson is clearly not joking.
Barnsley toiled and struggled against an obviously under-strength United
side to reveal the main reason for relegation.
They are just not good enough for the top flight even though it hurts me to
say that.
I, like Ferguson have applauded Barnsley's whole hearted commitment to the
way they play soccer.
But while they are away they'll have to find a bit more steel if they are to
survive in a return to the Premiership.
Wilson opted once more for a thin line of defence with just three players
back. A system that can and should work.
But not if you have defenders allowing the ball to drop into danger zones,
instead of being cleared.
It gave the former champions all the ammunition they needed to pepper
Watson's goal, especially in a first half of total domination. United soon
realised that their hosts were in a generous mood as they profited as early
as the fifth minute.
Teddy Sheringham drifted in a high cross which the Barnsley lads just seemed
to stare at.
Cole had his eyes on the ball too, and he was the first to react when he
held off Scott Jones and then swivelled to crash home his 25th goal of the
season.
It was a strike that devastated Barnsley, although Ashley Ward recovered
sufficiently to wriggle through the heart of the United defence before
seeing his shot pushed away by stand-in keeper Raimond van der Gouw.
But then came the United onslaught with Cole flicking off to Sheringham
whose volley flew inches passed the post.
Butt then took control of midfield and he fed to Cole whose shot wrong
footed keeper Watson before he regained his composure to stick out a giant
glove.
Butt the provider became a lethal marksman in his own right as he weaved his
way in front of the box before unleashing a drive which smacked the post.
Ward, voted Barnsley's player of the year, showed why with a long-range shot
that cannoned off Butt's boot and was finger tipped away by van der Gouw.
It was only a momentary lapse in United's concentration and they came
storming back with Phil Mulryne showing the class that has earned him a step
up to the first team.
Mulryne cleverly found room for himself as he tried a shot that was blocked
by a sea of legs.
But he was still on hand to have another go and this time his strike skidded
just past the post.
Butt's influence was outstanding as he controlled play and set up endless
opportunities for United to punish Barnsley even further.
It was Butt who gave Sheringham the chance to get on the scoresheet in the
76th minute with a goal that was simply stunning.
Butt threaded through for the England striker to face Watson in a one-to-one
and really there was no contest.
Sheringham steadied himself and picked his spot to deliver the ball into the
bottom corner.
It was just the strike that Sheringham desired after months of frustration
in a United shirt.
He's taken stick and been the subject of endless speculation that he'll be
packing his bags this summer. But on this evidence with this newly formed
partnership with Cole, Sheringham won't be going anywhere but into Europe
with United come August.
Sheringham is often criticised for his lack of work-rate, but with so many
stars posted missing he revelled in the added responsibility and looked
sharp and committed to make it an upbeat weekend for Hoddle.
Ferguson had nothing but praise for Barnsley and admitted: ""They were
fantastic. You have to feel for Barnsley because they've been a credit to
this division.
"I said before the game and I'll say it again now that I'm sure they will
come back.
"They are more equipped than most teams who go down. They've got the nucleus
of players who can get them back up."
"I decided to rest those players who I knew were definitely going to the
World Cup. I thought the youngsters did well."
Barnsley (3-5-2): Watson, Morgan, Appleby (Eaden 45), Jones, Bullock, Moses,
Redfearn, Sheridan, Barnard, Ward, Hristov (Fjortoft 61).
Man United (4-4-2): Van der Gouw, Berg, May, Brown, Curtis, Clegg
(Higginbotham 59), Butt, Mulryne, Giggs, Cole, Sheringham.
Man of the Match: Nicky Butt.
Marcus Lionel van Geyzel.
"I can only please one person per day.
Today is not your day.
Tomorrow isn't looking very good either". -- Dogbert
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Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:37:38 +0100
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From: J Callaghan
Subject: Teamtalk MONDAY, MAY 11, 1998
MONDAY, MAY 11, 1998
Saints bid to pip United ««
Reports suggest that Southampton are set to do all in their power to try
and beat Manchester United to the signature of Marc Vivian Foe.
The Cameroon international defender/midfielder has been watched by Ferguson
and his scouts on several occasions this season, but the Saints will push
United all the way - they're prepared to shatter the club record in order
to get their man.
Dave Jones will bid around £2.5 million, but that may not be enough with
competition for Foe's signature hotting up. Apart from United, A.C Milan,
Atletico Madrid and Paris St Germain are all poised to move in for the 22
year old Lens player. Foe celebrated Lens title success over the weekend.
Ferguson flew to Paris last week.
Will Pally follow Choccy ? ««
Pally: Willy he go?
Will Gary Pallister be the next long serving player to leave Old Trafford ?
With Brian McClair released on a free transfer last week, their are claims
that BOTH Reds stalwarts might be offered the chance to join Middlesbrough.
The Reds of course have an abundance of central defenders, and Pallister
will not find himself an automatic choice next season.
Jaap Stam will arrive after the World Cup, to join Pally, Berg, May and
Johnsen. We can also add young Wes Brown to the equation. Brown has been a
sensation since breaking into the first team and the 18 year old was part
of the defence which kept a clean sheet against Barnsley.
However if Pally is happy to remain as a squad player then he will stay,
because Alex Ferguson is in no rush to sell his England defender.
The boss wants a squad of immense strength in depth, so Pallister's future
will very much depend on the player himself.
Fergie's World Cup hint ««
Alex Ferguson seems to have given a big clue as to which United players
will be in Glenn Hoddle's World Cup England squad.
Ferguson has taken the unprecedented step of sending four of his regular
first teamer's on holiday to keep them fresh for the summer. He says he
wants to give them a break for the World Cup, even though Glen Hoddle
hasn't yet said who his squad is.
David Beckham, Paul Scholes, plus Gary and Philip Neville, left Old
Trafford following the game against Leeds.
However Teddy Sheringham, Andy Cole and Nicky Butt all stayed behind and
played against Barnsley - are they all World Cup 'fringe players' ?
It does seem as though Andy Cole and Nicky Butt will miss out, but
Sheringham is the player that perhaps should have been given an early break
with the rest of the England certainties.
Teddy WILL be in Hoddle's squad, but perhaps the reason he stayed behind to
play in the last game for United is because in the past Sheringham has been
accused by supporters of putting England first. Was Sheringham determined
to prove a point. If he insisted on remaining for the last game, then his
attitude should be applauded
A Manchester United is for life, not just for christmas.
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From: Jon Leigh
Subject: Wes Brown
To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
Anybody else think Wes Brown's pure class?
The lad took the piss out of Ashley Ward yesterday. Admittedly Ashley
has the terrible cross to bear for the rest of his life of being a
city reject, but he's still a handfull and caused us all sorts of
problems in the Cup game at the hovel.
Looks like our squad next year will have 5 top-notch full backs
(Irwin, Nevilles, Clegg, Curtis), 5-6 top-notch center backs (Palli,
Ronny, Stam, Wes, May, possibly Berg), 5 top-notch midfielders (Keano,
Butt, Scholes, Giggs, Beckham) and 2 strikers (Cole, Ole. Sheringham
never has counted and never will count and will hopefully have fucked
off to 'win medals' elsewhere - how about helping city win the
Autowindscreen shield?).
I reckon that with TWO top strikers and another midfielder - either
Zidane-like or wide right - then a squad with a great nucleus but no
great strength in depth will become one which could piss the League
and seriously mount a challenge for the Holy Grail.
And just how much would THAT piss off the sad ABUs who have been
gleefully proclaiming the end of the United reign?
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Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:18:55 -0700
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From: J Callaghan
Subject: MEn: Beckham set to turn heads with new five-year deal
A Cut Above Beckham set to turn heads with new five-year deal with United
BY Stuart Mathieson
Fringe benefits..Beckham at a book signing
DAVID Beckham will end speculation about his Manchester United future by
signing a new Old Trafford deal after the World Cup.
While his United and England counterparts Paul Scholes, Nicky Butt, Gary
and Phil Neville signed new seven-year deals last month Beckham hadn't got
down to putting his signature to a new contract.
The delay in securing Beckham's long-term United future sparked rumours
that the Londoner was being tempted by a lucrative move abroad and a rift
with Reds' boss Alex Ferguson over off-the-field commercial activities.
But the 23-year-old is ready to commit himself to United until the year
2003 with a five-year deal. United and Beckham's agent Tony Stevens will
thrash out the finer points of the deal when the player returns from
England World Cup duty in the summer.
``I don't anticipate that there will be any problems,'' says Old Trafford
chairman Martin Edwards.
Beckham, who has launched his book in London says: ``I just want to carry
on playing football for United as well as I can.''
Once Beckham's signature is on his new United contract the Reds will have
all their big-name first team squad youngsters and prime stars like Roy
Keane, Andy Cole and new defender Jaap Stam on deals that take them well
into the 21st century.
Meanwhile, Beckham is set to turn a few heads with his new blond look - by
turning back the clock.
``It is getting back to my natural colour, I was blond as a kid,'' he said
after signing copies of his new biography.
And the new look has already been given the seal of approval from his
24-year-old Spice Girl fiancee Victoria `Posh Spice' Adams. Beckham said:
``She loves it.''
Meanwhile Partizan Belgrade goalkeeper Ivica Kral could be on Manchester
United's wanted list. The £3m-rated Yugoslav is also believed to be a
target for Italian club Roma.
British Airways is putting its money where its mouth is with a £350,000
plus Concorde offer to England and Scotland footballers for the World Cup.
If either team wins the competition in France next month the airline has
offered to give every member a free supersonic flight.
The offer extends to every team member and coaching staff AND wives,
girlfriends and children.
A Manchester United is for life, not just for christmas.
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