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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Mon Sep 07  GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. ***WEEKLY STATMAIL***  ISSUE 4: 6th Sept 1998 
2. Man Utd confirms in talks with BSkyB 
5. What Happens Next (TeamTalk)
6. Bskyb takeover
7. Blomqvist & Cruyff Reports
8. Ireland v Croatia - a view from the East Stand
9. BBC: Supporters shirty about kit


Daily RED Trivia  Monday 7th September 98:

1895: Walter Cartwright made his debut against Crewe Alexandra, his former
club. Cartwright played  in every position, including in goal, and amassed 257 games
and 8 goals in a spell with the club lasting from 1895-1905. 

1957: United beat Leeds United 5-0 at Old Trafford in a Division 1 game watched
by 50,842. Johnny Berry 2, Tommy Taylor 2 and Dennis Viollet scored for the
Reds. Team was: Wood, Foulkes, Bryne, Colman, Blanchflower, Edwards, Berry,
Whelan, Taylor, Viollet, Pegg. 


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Wed  9/9 Charlton  (H) PL   Wed 16/9 Barcelona (H) CL  
Sat 12/9 Coventry  (H) PL   Sat 20/9 Arsenal   (A) PL

Republic Of Ireland 2 V 0 Croatia (Latest)
United's Denis Irwin and Roy Keane were named in Mick McCarthy's side for
this afternoon's European Championship qualifier in Dublin.
Denis Irwin opened the scoring from the penalty spot, Roy Keane making it
2-0 when he latched on to McAteer's cross.

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Subject: list: ***WEEKLY STATMAIL*** ISSUE 4: 6th Sept 1998 *** FIXTURES ON 08/09/98 *** Leeds United v Southampton Nottingham Forest v Everton *** FIXTURES ON 09/09/98 *** Aston Villa v Newcastle United Chelsea v Arsenal ***Sky sports TV Derby County v Sheffield Wednesday Leicester City v Middlesbrough Liverpool v Coventry City Manchester United v Charlton Athletic Tottenham Hotspur v Blackburn Rovers West Ham United v Wimbledon *** FIXTURES ON 12/09/98 *** Aston Villa v Wimbledon Charlton Athletic v Derby County Chelsea v Nottingham Forest Everton v Leeds United Leicester City v Arsenal Manchester United v Coventry City Newcastle United v Southampton Sheffield Wednesday v Blackburn Rovers West Ham United v Liverpool *** FIXTURES ON 13/09/98 *** Tottenham Hotspur v Middlesbrough *** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 30/08/98 *** Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts --------------------------------------------------------- 1 Liverpool 3 2 1 0 6 2 4 7 2 Aston Villa 3 2 1 0 4 1 3 7 3 Nottingham Forest 3 2 0 1 4 3 1 6 4 Charlton Athletic 3 1 2 0 5 0 5 5 5 Wimbledon 3 1 2 0 4 2 2 5 6 Arsenal 3 1 2 0 2 1 1 5 7 Leeds United 3 1 2 0 2 1 1 5 8 West Ham United 3 1 2 0 1 0 1 5 9 Leicester City 3 1 1 1 4 3 1 4 10 Blackburn Rovers 3 1 1 1 1 1 0 4 11 Coventry City 3 1 1 1 2 2 0 4 12 Sheffield Wednesday 3 1 0 2 3 2 1 3 13 Derby County 3 0 3 0 1 1 0 3 14 Tottenham Hotspur 3 1 0 2 2 6 -4 3 15 Manchester United 2 0 2 0 2 2 0 2 16 Middlesbrough 3 0 2 1 2 4 -2 2 17 Newcastle United 3 0 2 1 2 5 -3 2 18 Chelsea 2 0 1 1 2 3 -1 1 19 Everton 3 0 1 2 0 3 -3 1 20 Southampton 3 0 0 3 2 9 -7 0 Produced by: E-mail: statmail@iname.com ICQ UIN: 4358182 Homepage: http://www.graphite.demon.co.uk/ MUFC Hon. Executive CP Cheah Webmasters: Barry Leeming & Bill McArthur Graphics: Sam Hayward Stats: Paul Hinson Site Design Diana Low Webmaster Mail: barry@www.red11.org Url: http://www.red11.org World of Manchester United Football Club.
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Subject: Man Utd confirms in talks with BSkyB LONDON, Sept 6 - Manchester United * soccer club confirmed on Sunday it was in discussions with satellite broadcaster BSkyB * on a possible takeover of the club. "The board of Manchester United has noted the recent press speculation regarding the company and confirms that it is in discussions with British Sky Broadcasting Group plc which may or may not lead to an offer being made for the company. A further announcement will be made in due course," a statement issued on behalf of the club said. A Manchester United spokesman said any decision taken by the club would be taken in the interests of the shareholders, the supporters, the players and the staff.
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Monday 07 September 1998 Subject: SKY CONFIRM TALKS OVER MAN UTD Media mogul Rupert Murdoch's BSkyB have confirmed they are in talks to buy Manchester United - a move that could change the face of football forever. If Murdoch is given the opportunity to hand over a cheque, estimated at 575million, to take a controlling interest at Old Trafford, the shockwaves would reverberate around the world's most popu lar team sport. In a statement, the satellite TV company said: "The Board of British Sky Broadcasting Group Plc has noted the recent press speculation, and confirms that it is in discussions which may or may not lea d to an offer being made for Manchester United Plc." United are due to make an announcement to the City on Monday morning, when they are expected to outline the latest developments. Murdoch's purchase would render discussions over future Premier League television contracts meaningless, would almost certainly hasten the arrival of a European Super League and throw the national in stitution that is Manchester United into chaos. Fans, former managers and government ministers were among those lining up to condemn the possible takeover, while nervous mandarins from the Football Association and Premier League await further deve lopments. Sports Minister Tony Banks said: "There are clear implications here that make me feel that this can't be treated as if it were just a normal takeover of one publicly quoted company by another. "We must look very carefully at the way media companies are allowed to buy up football clubs. The commercial implications are fairly profound."
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Sunday 06 September 1998 Subject: DOC FEARS FOR UNITED'S HEALTH Former Manchester United manager Tommy Docherty says the heart will be ripped out of the club for many fans if Rupert Murdoch's proposed bid to buy the club goes through. Murdoch is set to spend up to 575million to buy the Old Trafford giants, and the media magnate's BSkyB, according to a report in the Sunday Telegraph, has already negotiated a cash deal with United chairman Martin Edwards, who is said to be selling his 14% stake in the club for 80million. Docherty said the supporters would never forgive Edwards if he did sell out, and that he felt that with the increased possibility of a European Super League, the Australian-born media tycoon may not stop at United. "Once Murdoch gets hold of the club he will no longer have to negotiate with the Premier League over the introduction of pay-per-view," said Docherty. "They were obviously having problems with the European Super League so they had to find a way of resolving the problem. But I don't think he will stop there, I think he might try to get hold of anoth er couple of top clubs yet." Docherty envisages a day when fans will be a thing of the past, with players plying their trade in front of a purely corporate audience. "Everything will be geared towards television, there will be no fans sitting in the stands, they will all behind glass entertaining their business clients. The game has already moved away from the tr ue fans and this type of thing just dilutes the passion even more," he said. "If this deal goes through I would no longer support the club because from a football point of view it just wouldn't be the same. "Martin Edwards is not a football man and never has been. He has already made a lot of money selling shares and good luck to him but I don't think the fans would ever forgive for selling out to Murdo ch." Docherty concluded: "That club is worth 1billion and for Murdoch to get his hands on it would be like winning the Lottery."
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Subject: What Happens Next (TeamTalk) What Happens Next United fans have been warned what to expect this week over the prospective buyout of the club by Rupert Murdoch's BSkyB - just look at recent American sports history. The Aussie-born tycoon took control of the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball club last year amid frenzied denials of any involvement. The current takeover saga looks like running along similar lines at the moment after the present round of comments claiming the reports to be pure speculation. Murdoch's US TV arm Fox Sports eventually did the deal and the proceeded to shake-up the mediocre ball club and it's fans by abandoning all links with tradition and trading it's best player. The Dodgers moved to a new stadium and traded slugger Mike Piazza to a rival after the star refused to sign a contract extension, upsetting fans from day one. It is unlikely that there will be such wholesale changes should Murdoch's money gain control at Old Trafford but the portents are there for all to see. United's plc decision makers have become increasingly removed from the fans over the last few seasons which has seen some strange things happen. Take, for example, how United could launch a European home kit for the Champions' League in the same year of the 40th anniversary of Munich and include white socks in the kit, when United's traditional black socks were first introduced as a Munich tribute. But questions will surely arise about how long this deal has been on the table with indications now emerging that the Brokers, Goldman Sachs, have been working on the deal for several months. Martin Edwards has been steadily offloading his stock in the club since the flotation in 1991 while rumours mounted that he wanted to get out via the back door. Tommy Doherty summed up the view of most fans on Edwards today when he said: "He would sell his own grandmother if he thought he could get a good price."
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 17:44:09 -0700 From: walker@mail.bogo.co.uk (john walker) Subject: Bskyb takeover I like the idea of the takeover by bskyb. It seems obvious that the future of football is closely linked to global media and communications, so who better to be partners with than bskyb? Ok, the ideal situation would be for united to be owned by thousands of small shareholders with a board which is 100 per cent obsessed with manchester united football club. it's nearly so at present, 22 per cent of the shares are held by 'small shareholders', but the board has always seemed to be fattening up the club for a takeover. it's always seemed to be likely that we would be bought...if we have to be bought, then I can think of no better purchaser than bskyb. their expertise in the media world is to our benefit. their economic clout will be to our benefit. this company can make governments sit up and listen, never mind the idiots and abus at the fa. There is a brave new world dawning. football has changed so much over the last 5 or 10 years, but this is only the beginning! in 5 years time the organisation of football will be vastly different to the way it is now. the recent euro super league talks are only the start. if the talks fail then uefa will at least reorganise and make concessions, if the talks are succesful...either way we will need some backing to compete with clubs like juventus, milan and barcelona. they keep telling us that we are the richest club in the world, but this is only because they only take into account our earnings as a football club. juve are backed by fiat...milan by berlusconi and his satellite tv company...if they want to they can just stick their hand in their pocket and come up with countless millions that we as a football club cannot afford. if we are backed by bskyb we can compete. we will be there when decisions are made, the decisions which will affect how the game is run for the next decade and beyond. One good indication of how good this deal is for us, is that it has truly pissed off just about everyone else! this deal puts us in our rightful position of being able to dictate to everyone else just how we want the game to be organised. for too long little clubs like chelsea, coventry, leicester, villa have been exerting an undue influence over our operations. uefa and the fa dreams up restrictions to stop us growing as we should. why should they be allowed to stop us recruiting youngsters from wherever we can? why should we be restricted to the number of 'foreign' players we had in our team. the bskyb deal will give us the power to develop in the way our popularity gives us the right to. Small clubs rely on us for a large part of their revenue, the fa and premier league rely on united for any credibility, and uefa rely on the big clubs like united, bayern, milan, juve, real, barcelona...why should they dictate to us how we operate? these people are not the custodians of some corinthian ideal, they are just ripping us off and restricting us in their own interest. Closer to home, bskyb will want old trafford to remain at the forefront of stadia, and will want the best players and staff at old trafford. On the negative side...if they don't get us they'll move on to arsenal or liverpool...we'll be left behind to be bought later by a lesser 'player' someone like granada. If we have to be sold, and sooner or later that looks likely, then I hope this deal goes ahead quickly with bskyb. glory glory man united :) no copyright
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Subject: Blomqvist & Cruyff Reports Here are some interesting stuff from the Manchester Evening News' The Pink. Colin Extracts from the article Jesper Look Class in The Manchester Evening News The Pink By Chris Butler. Jesper Blomqvist will quickly become a darling of the Old Trafford faithful if his first appearance in a red shirt for Manchester United is anything to go by. United fans have always had a soft spot for wingers and the Swedish international looks set to join the ranks of the wide men whom they have taken into their hearts. His jinking runs down the left wing caused Villa constant unease and his excellent vision set up several openings for his fellow attackers. Tricky footwork, an enthusiasm for taking on defenders, and a huge appetite for running with the ball, had the fans drooling in the stands in anticipation of what's in store when he returns to full fitness. The Dutch international Jordi Cruyff was in eye catching form with a series of darting runs into the Villa area which had the visitors' rearguard scampering to cover. He was a real handful and the abundance of talent which he undoubtedly possesses shone through like a beacon. Cruyff hasn't had the best of fortune since joining from Barcelona two years ago, but a few more displays like this and he will be knocking loudly on the first team dressing room door once again. Although he didn't score, he was involved hugely in three of the goals as the reserves cruised to their first success of the new season. Report on the Reserves match with Everton from The Manchester Evening News The Pink: Jesper chews up the Toffees. (No Author) Everton Res. 0 Man U Res. 2 Jesper Blomqvist's route back to full fitness took him on the short journey along the M62 to Goodison Park this afternoon. The Swedish raider, who impressed on his reserve debut against Villa at Old Trafford in midweek caught the eye again. He completed a full 90 minutes and his surging runs set up a goal for Jonathan Greening. More wizardry forced the Everton defence into strong-arm tactics. He was taken out three tomes in the opening 10 minutes, with the third offender Gavin McCann being booked. McCann was later sent off for a second bookable foul on Michael Clegg. Bright young striker Mark Wilson, who scored twice in midweek, again looked lively as he tested Paul Gerrard, the former Oldham keeper, and hit the bar from 30 yards. United took a firm grip on the match with goals in the opening 10 minutes of the second half. Jordi Cruyff grabbed the first, in the 51 minute, with a delicate chip over Gerrard after clever work by Greening. Three minutes later it was Blomqvist who crowned a fine run by setting up Greening for a simple tap in after the Everton defence, including former Red, John O'Kane had failed to clear.
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From: "Jim Madden" Subject: Ireland v Croatia - a view from the East Stand The United representatives did themselves proud in Ireland's 2-0 defeat of Croatia yesterday. Although the Croatian team was weakened by the loss of such players as Suker and Bilic, they were a shadow of the team that did so well in the World Cup in France. The new-look youthful Ireland team, reverting to a tried and tested 4-4-2 formation that brought them so much success in recent years, looked better balanced and organised than McCarthy's WC qualifying teams. I won't bore you too much with the details of the game that became a bit of a shambles towards the end. With two Croatians walking after serious attempts to damage Steve Staunton, Ireland struggled to take advantage as McCarthy had used his subs to pack the midfield obviously content to take all three points. Denis Irwin, playing at right back got Ireland off to a flier when he was brought down by a combination of two tackles after only five minutes. Irwin himself got up to take the penalty, calmly side-footing to the keper's left. Ten minutes later a deflected shot from McAteer (his only worthwhile contribution to the game - I kid you not!) looped high into the box and skipper Roy Keane reacted first to nod past the stranded keeper. It was mainly "keep-ball" for the Irish after that with Croatia getting only two possible attempts, mainly due to Babb's inadequacies and arrogance. (This is not meant to be a scouse-beating post!). Irwin was as steady as ever and looks like he can play forever. He moved to left-back for the second half to let Staunton move up to replace Duff who was, to use a professional term, knackered! "Clean Den" slotted in perfectly and didn't put a foot out of place. I swear I've never seen a more solid or cool full back in my life. Keano (there's only one Keano - never mind that Robbie kid), back to skipper the side, looked like he'd never been away. Man of the match, and totally awesome. He was everywhere without the 50-yard surging runs, controlling the midfield and popping up for defensive interceptions, plus of course getting time to score! Robbo eat your heart out! His reading of the game allowed him to work the pitch without ever looking stressed. I was concerned how Keane would return after his knee injury, but on this display it looks like he's back to his old self. I only wonder about the runs that were missing, but with the formation there was no real need for him to over-exert himself. A solid enough performance from Ireland, with Keane and Irwin showing a professionalism head and shoulders above anything else on the park. Kenny Cunningham was impressive too, but wasn't really tested. Jim Jim.Madden@btinternet.com 1998 ICQ 1757821
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X-Mailer: Calypso Version 2.40.40 Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:05:37 -0400 From: "William McArthur" To: barrylee@post3.tele.dk Subject: BBC: Supporters shirty about kit As the football season kicks off many fans will be considering stumping up the cash for that badge ofloyalty - their team's new home shirt. Replica kits are big business and it seems that many teams - especially those in the Premier League - change their shirts with alarming frequency. At roughly 40 a throw for an adult's shirt it can prove costly for the dedicated follower of football fashion. Kevin Monks, of the Football Supporters Association, says: "Clubs could bring out a new kit a week if they wanted. It's all done to fleece the fans and to make as much money as possible from the supporters." BBC News online carried out a survey and found that just over half of the teams in the Football Association's Carling Premiership League are changing their home shirts this year. Most of the clubs said they like to keep home shirts for two seasons. Frequent changes The FA is unwilling to set out strict rules governing the number of strips a club introduces, but it says clubs are discouraged from frequently redesigning their strips. But although many clubs do abide by the unofficial two season rule for home shirts, some like Newcastle United change their away kits yearly. Others like Manchester United have third and fourth kits which are also frequently updated. Kevin Monks says he would like to see each team restricted to just two kits. But the frequency of kit changes is only half the story. The high cost of replica kits can also be a financial drain. The Office of Fair Trading is currently investigating the cost of kits. It has written to all 20 clubs following complaints from shops that they are under pressure from suppliers to keep prices high. The OFT says it has evidence that some football clubs are putting pressure on manufacturers and distributors to withold supplies from shops selling replica kits at a discount. Retailers have been urged to blow the whistle on offenders. Supermarket challenge Price fixing is also being attacked by the supermarket giant Tesco, which is now selling Manchester United and Liverpool home strips for 25% less than the recommended club price. The Man Utd home shirt is the most expensive in the Premiership and will set you back hefty 45 from the club shop. But Tesco will sell you one (while stocks last) for 33 - and a child's shirt for 25, an 8 saving over club prices. The supermarket was denied official supplies from brand owners and so sourced the strip entirely outside the UK on the European 'grey' market. But fans of other teams will have to continue to fork out for their shirts. There is some good news for Charlton Athletic fans though. In addition to their club being promoted last season, their shirts are also the cheapest in the Premiership. But despite this, Addicks supporters are still paying for their club's success. Last year when the team was in the first division the shirts were 5 cheaper. Bill McArthur "There's only ONE United - Manchester United!"
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