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Date: Thurs 25 Nov 1999 00:45 GMT
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. UNITED AT SEA IN CHANGING EUROPE
2. YORKE OUT?/TURNING JAPANESE
3. KEANE HOLDS UP HANDS AFTER DEFEAT
4. BERG CAN'T EXPLAIN MISTAKES
5. FERGIE: NO EXCUSES
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MANCHESTER UNITED DAILY NEWS Thurs 25th Nov 1999:
Barry Comment:
Comedy on MUTV after Fiorentina
Enjoy a telephone phone in on MUTV after the game last night with
Brian Greenhoff & Lee Martin!
You can download wav file for windows or smaller mp3 at
http://www.red11.org/mickz/mutv_comedy_fiorentina.wav 656k
http://www.red11.org/mickz/mutv_comedy_fiorentina.mp3 240k
http://www.red11.org/champ
If I Die In The Stretford End - scoreboardpaddock@manutd.com
Alex Hulme/Manchester/England
Made by a Manc for Mancs "If I Die In The Stretford End" is for Match Going REDS.
URL:
Taken from The Worldwide Manchester United Fans Webring - 400+ RED sites!
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* UK TV info: BBC TO COVER UNITED'S BRAZIL MISSION
The BBC will broadcast live coverage of Manchester United's World Team
Championship challenge in Brazil.
Manchester United FC Champions League Squad List
1 Mark John Bosnich 2 Gary Alexander Neville 3 Dennis Joseph Irwin
4 David May 6 Jakob Stam 7 David Robert J Beckham
8 Nicholas Butt 9 Andrew Alex. Cole 10 Edward Sheringham
11 Ryan Joseph Giggs 12 Philip Neville 14 Johan Jordi Cruyff
15 Lars Jesper Blomqvist 16 Roy Keane 17 Raimond RJH Van der Gouw
18 Paul Scholes 19 Dwight Yorke 20 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 Henning Berg 23 Michael Jamie Clegg 25 José Quinton Fortune
26 Massimo Taibi 31 Nicholas James Culkin 33 Mark Antony Wilson
34 Jonathan Greening
1999/2000 UEFA Champions League Second Group-Match Stage - Group B
Group B P W D L F A Pts
Valencia CF 1 1 0 0 3 0 3
Fiorentina AC 1 1 0 0 2 0 3
Manchester United 1 0 0 1 0 2 0
Bordeaux 1 0 0 1 0 3 0
Second stage Euro Draw GROUP B
Manchester United Valencia Bordeaux Fiorentina
Tues Nov 23 Fiorentina v Manchester United 2-0
Valencia v Girondins Bordeaux 3-0
Wed Dec 8
Group B: Girondins Bordeaux v Fiorentina
Group B: Manchester United v Valencia
Wed Mar 1
Group B: Manchester United v Girondins Bordeaux
Group B: Fiorentina v Valencia
Tues Mar 7
Group B: Girondins Bordeaux v Manchester United
Group B: Valencia v Fiorentina
Wed Mar 15
Group B: Manchester United v Fiorentina
Group B: Girondins Bordeaux v Valencia
Tuesday, March 21
Group B: Fiorentina v Girondins Bordeaux
Group B: Valencia v Manchester United
FINAL Group D P W D L F A PTS
Manchester United FC 6 4 1 1 9 4 13
Olympique de Marseille 6 3 1 2 10 8 10
SK Sturm Graz 6 2 0 4 5 12 6
NK Croatia Zagreb 6 1 2 3 7 7 5
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*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 20/11/99 ***
Arsenal 5-1 Middlesbrough 38,082
Derby County 1-2 Manchester United 33,370
Everton 1-1 Chelsea 38,225
Leeds United 2-1 Bradford City 39,937
Leicester City 2-1 Wimbledon 18,255
Southampton 0-1 Tottenham Hotspur 15,248
Sunderland 0-2 Liverpool 42,015
Watford 1-1 Newcastle United 19,539
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 21/11/99 ***
West Ham United 4-3 Sheffield Wednesday 23,015
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 22/11/99 ***
Coventry City 2-1 Aston Villa 20,184
*** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 22/11/99 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Manchester United 15 10 3 2 35 20 15 33
2 Leeds United 15 10 2 3 28 19 9 32
3 Arsenal 15 9 2 4 26 15 11 29
4 Sunderland 15 8 4 3 24 14 10 28
5 Liverpool 15 8 3 4 20 12 8 27
6 Tottenham Hotspur 14 8 2 4 24 18 6 26
7 Leicester City 15 8 2 5 25 20 5 26
8 Middlesbrough 15 7 1 7 20 23 -3 22
9 Chelsea 13 6 3 4 19 11 8 21
10 West Ham United 14 6 3 5 16 14 2 21
11 Coventry City 15 5 5 5 23 17 6 20
12 Everton 15 5 5 5 24 22 2 20
13 Aston Villa 15 5 3 7 14 18 -4 18
14 Southampton 14 4 4 6 20 24 -4 16
15 Wimbledon 15 3 7 5 22 29 -7 16
16 Newcastle United 15 3 4 8 25 29 -4 13
17 Bradford City 14 3 3 8 12 23 -11 12
18 Derby County 15 3 3 9 14 26 -12 12
19 Watford 15 3 2 10 11 25 -14 11
20 Sheffield Wednesday 15 1 3 11 13 36 -23 6
*** FIXTURES ON 27/11/99 ***
Coventry City v Leicester City
Everton v Aston Villa
Middlesbrough v Wimbledon
Watford v Sunderland
West Ham United v Liverpool
*** FIXTURES ON 28/11/99 ***
Arsenal v Derby County
Chelsea v Bradford City
Leeds United v Southampton
Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur
*** TEAM STATISTICS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 20/11/99 ***
AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 55,168
HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 25/09/99 - Southampton (55,249)
LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 11/08/99 - Sheffield Wednesday (54,941)
BEST WIN: 11/08/99 - Sheffield Wednesday (4-0)
30/08/99 - Newcastle United (5-1)
HEAVIEST DEFEAT: 03/10/99 - Chelsea (0-5)
BEST HOME WIN: 11/08/99 - Sheffield Wednesday (4-0)
30/08/99 - Newcastle United (5-1)
BEST AWAY WIN: 22/08/99 - Arsenal (2-1)
25/08/99 - Coventry City (2-1)
11/09/99 - Liverpool (3-2)
20/11/99 - Derby County (2-1)
HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT: 03/10/99 - Chelsea (0-5)
NEXT MATCHES
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30-NOV-1999 [10:00] Manchester Utd. vs Palmeiras (Inter Continental Cup, AWAY)
04-DEC-1999 [15:00] Manchester Utd. vs Everton (FA Premier League, HOME)
08-DEC-1999 [19:45] Manchester Utd. vs Valencia (UEFA Champions League, HOME)
Current Injuries
Jesper Blomqvist ankle Dec 4
Ronny Johnsen knee January
Wes Brown knee August
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED -
UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/
ALL FIXTURES at: http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix992000.htm
First Team Fixtures 1999/2000
All dates/times subject to change
Dates of possible cup ties also shown
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/07/99 Melbourne Australia pre-season W 2-0 - 60,000
18/07/99 Sydney Australia pre-season W 1-0 - 78,000
21/07/99 Shanghai Shenhua pre-season W 2-0 - 80,000
24/07/99 Hong Kong South China pre-season W 2-0 - 40,000
1/08/99 Arsenal Wembley Charity Shield L 1-2 - 70,185
3/08/99 Omagh Town Omagh Bomb Fund W 9-0 - 7,000
4/08/99 Wigan Athletic friendly W 2-0 - 15,000
08/08/99 Everton Away PL D 1-1 10 39,141
11/08/99 Sheffield Wednesday Home PL W 4-0 3 54,941
14/08/99 Leeds United Home PL W 2-0 1 55,187
22/08/99 Arsenal Away PL W 2-1 1 38,147
25/08/99 Coventry City Away PL W 2-1 1 22,024
27/08/99 Monaco - Lazio ESC L 0-1 - 15,223
30/08/99 Newcastle United Home W 5-1 1 55,190
11/09/99 Liverpool Away W 3-2 1 44,929
14/09/99 Croatia Zagreb Home EC D 0-0 - 53,250
18/09/99 Wimbledon Home D 1-1 1 55,189
22/09/99 Sturm Graz Away EC W 3-0 - 16,480
25/09/99 Southampton Home D 3-3 1 55,249
29/09/99 Marseille Home EC W 2-1 - 54,276
3/10/99 Chelsea Away PL L 0-5 2 34,909
11/10/99 Sir Alex Testimonial Home F L 2-4 LEGENDS 54,842
13/10/99 Aston Villa Away WC3 L 0-3 - 33,815
16/10/99 Watford Home PL W 4-1 2 55,188
19/10/99 Marseille Away EC L 0-1 - 57,745
23/10/99 Tottenham Hotspur Away L 1-3 3 36,072
27/10/99 Croatia Zagreb Away EC W 2-1 - 30,000
30/10/99 Aston Villa Home PL W 3-0 2 55,211
2/11/99 Sturm Graz Home EC W 2-1 - 53,745
6/11/99 Leicester City Home PL W 2-0 1 55,191
20/11/99 Derby County Away W 2-1 1 33,370
23/11/99 AC Fiorentina Away EC L 0-2 - ?
pp 27/11/99 ? Sheffield Wednesday Away PL *No new date yet
30/11/99 Tokyo Palmeiras WCC 20.00
4/12/99 Everton Home PL 15.00
8/12/99 Valencia CF Home EC 19.45
18/12/99 West Ham United Away PL 15.00
26/12/99 Bradford City Home PL 15.00
28/12/99 Sunderland Away PL 20.00 "live on sky"
3/01/2000 Middlesborough Home PL 20.00
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JAN 05-14 Brazil WTC [3-4 games]
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06/01/2000 Necaxa (Mexico) Neut WTC 16.00
08/01/2000 Vasco da Gama (Brazil) Away WTC 16.00
11/01/2000 South Melbourne (Australia) N WTC 16.00
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22/01/2000 Arsenal Home PL 15.00
5/02/2000 Coventry City Home PL 15.00
12/02/2000 Newcastle United Away PL 15.00
26/02/2000 Wimbledon Away PL 15.00
1/03/2000 FC Girondins de Bordeaux Home EC 19.45
4/03/2000 Liverpool Home PL 15.00
7/03/2000 FC Girondins de Bordeaux Away EC 19.45
11/03/2000 Derby County Home PL 15.00
15/03/2000 AC Fiorentina Home EC 19.45
18/03/2000 Leicester City Away PL 15.00
21/03/2000 Valencia CF Away EC 19.45
25/03/2000 Bradford City Away PL 15.00
1/04/2000 West Ham United Home PL 15.00
5/04/2000 ? EC qf i
8/04/2000 Middlesborough Away PL 15.00
15/04/2000 Sunderland Home PL 15.00
19/04/2000 ? EC qf ii
22/04/2000 Southampton Away PL 15.00
24/04/2000 Chelsea Home PL 15.00
29/04/2000 West Ham United Away PL 15.00
3/05/2000 ? EC sf i
6/05/2000 Tottenham Hotspur Home PL 15.00
10/05/2000 ? EC sf ii
14/05/2000 Aston Villa Away PL 15.00
24/05/2000 ? EC Final
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UNITED AT SEA IN CHANGING EUROPE
By Stephen Joyce, Sporting Life
The debate over the quality of the current Manchester United team will be
rekindled if they fail to retain their Champions' League title.
The magnificent treble that earned a knighthood for manager Alex Ferguson
and the highest praise for his squad also ensured fans of vintage Liverpool
among others were outraged.
And Tuesday night's dismal defeat at Fiorentina will have provided them
with more ammunition as well as supporters of Brian Clough's Nottingham
Forest and the Aston Villa side of the early 80s.
These were sides that dominated Europe during their tenure at the top while
United are showing plenty of cracks in their shiny armour barely six months
after taking the trophy.
The critics would claim first that the Reds were a shade fortunate to even
collect the European crown.
Even the most die-hard Old Trafford enthusiast must have looked at his
watch as 90 minutes were up at the Nou Camp in May and conceded that Bayern
Munich had beaten them.
The injury-time double strike of Teddy Sheringham and Ole Solskjaer might
well have amounted to seven years' good luck falling in one three-minute
spell.
Certainly the gods are not smiling on Ferguson this campaign.
You have to attend a few snowball contests in Hell before you see Roy Keane
give such a disastrous pass that led to Gabriel Batistuta's opener for
Fiorentina.
And a similar howler from Italian keeper Francesco Toldo from David
Beckham's free kick led to the ball ricocheting onto the bar and away to
safety.
But though luck plays a part in the outcome of many matches, United have
failed to sparkle regularly either in Europe or the Premiership this season.
The most damning verdict is that they do not look an invincible side any
more.
Peter Schmeichel was always going to be nearly impossible to replace and
though Mark Bosnich played competently in Florence and made one crucial
save from Rui Costa, his woeful kicking certainly spreads alarm at the back.
Ferguson's rigid 4-4-2 line-up left full-backs Gary Neville and Denis Irwin
sometimes under-occupied by Fiorentina's wide men flooding the centre of
midfield only to be surprised by the quick breaks of wing-backs Moreno
Torricelli and Jorg Heinrich.
Teams have now had a good look at United's pattern of play and dreamed up
ploys to frustrate it.
It is disconcerting enough for Ferguson's methods to be undermined by
Fiorentina, an attractive rather than spectacular side, but even the likes
of Marseille, Croatia Zagreb and Sturm Graz gained plenty of success in the
first stage of matches.
Fergie fans will claim that United are just going through a lean patch with
a few players, most noticeably Ryan Giggs and Dwight Yorke, off form.
But the main worry is the impending visit of Valencia.
If the Spaniards, who looked a classy act in two comprehensive victories
over Rangers recently, win at Old Trafford next month, United's reign as
kings of Europe could well be over before Christmas.
Their place in the pantheon of European super clubs would quickly be
revised downwards
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YORKE OUT /TURNING JAPANESE
YORKE OUT?
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 13:47
It has emerged that Dwight Yorke may be forced to miss
two Premiership matches in the New Year on international
duty.
The CONCACAF Gold Cup is due to take place next
February, and Dwight is expected to be named in the
Trinidad and Tobago squad for the tournament, which is
the South American equivalent of the European Championships.
As it stands, Dwight will miss the matches against
Newcastle at St James' Park, and Wimbledon at Old
Trafford.
But if Trinidad and Tobago insist, he could be out for a
whole month. "The Gold Cup is regarded as a prestige
tournament and the regulations for the release of players
are the same as for those for the World Cup and European
Championships," explained FIFA spokesman Andrew
Cooper.
The club seem powerless to prevent Dwight from going.
"By the sound of it, there is very little that we can do,"
admitted club secretary Ken Merrett.
We will just have to hope that Trinidad and Tobago forget
they have Dwight to call on.
That's not very likely though, is it!
TURNING JAPANESE
Wednesday, November 24, 1999 12:21
Going to Tokyo? No? You part-timer!
Then it's lucky for you* that MUTV are.
The Reds' own television channel will be screening
the entire Intercontinental Cup match against
Palmeiras on Tuesday 30 November, at a time to suit
their loyal audience (Mad Barry in Aalborg).
The game kicks-off at 10am (UK time) but the match will
be broadcast 'as live' on MUTV at 8pm, so if you can avoid
the score while you're at school, work or the bookies, you can
see the whole game on MUTV at a more convenient time in
the evening. This gives Barry time to line up the beer and
Danish pastries ready for a good night in front of the box.
Not only that, but the channel's Red Hot News team will
also bring you interviews and features direct from Japan, as
Sir Alex Ferguson's men acclimatize in the build-up to the
big game. Barry will endeavour to keep you fully informed,
using all the latest technology to cut and paste everything
he can point his mouse at!
The broadcast of this match is a real coup for MUTV,
whose first team match coverage this season has already
included the Super Cup clash with Lazio, Sir Alex
Ferguson's testimonial and United's four-match pre-season
tour to Australia and the Far East.
United fans have been enjoying a healthy diet of match
action on MUTV this month, with three live Reserve games
in eight days producing ten goals and four red cards!
For details of how you can subscribe to MUTV, please
click **HERE.
(*assuming you live in the UK!)
(** assuming you have a very vivid imagination)
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KEANE HOLDS UP HANDS AFTER DEFEAT
Roy Keane held his hands up a after Manchester United's defence of the
European Cup took a turn for the worst aganst Fiorentina on Tuesday night.
The United and Republic of Ireland skipper showed a rare lack of composure
with a poor back-pass that led to Gabriel Batistuta scoring the first goal
for Fiorentina, before Henning Berg also lost possession and Abel Balbo
added the second to earn the Italians a 2-0 win.
Keane was none too pleased: "The two goals we gave away, you can't do that
at this level," he confessed. "In fact you can't do that at any level and
we got punished. Besides that I thought we dominated the game, but goals
win matches and we didn't score, while they got two and that was it. I
thought we were the better team, but goals decide matches and we made two
bad mistakes and we got punished, that's football."
Jaap Stam refused to blame Keane and Berg: "I think people know what they
are doing and they're only human and it's unfortunate that it's happened.
"It was unfortunate because we knew if they scored that their fans would
really get behind the team."
Keane added: "We still have five matches in the Champions League. We lost
one game in the last group to Marseille so really we can afford one defeat,
but that's all and now we need to win our remaining matches."
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BERG CAN'T EXPLAIN MISTAKES
Henning Berg cannot explain why he has suddenly become as accident prone as
Frank Spencer.
The Norwegian made a name for himself at Blackburn and then Manchester
United as a reliable and solid defender who rarely made mistakes.
However, that reputation has been severely dented by a couple of clangers
in the Champions League.
In September at Old Trafford he lost the ball to Ibrahima Bakayoko and the
Marseille forward raced through to score. At the time a distraught Berg
held up his hand and promised it would not happen again.
But against Fiorentina he was caught out again as Gabriel Batistuta
dispossessed him and set up Abel Balbo for the Serie A side's second goal
in United's 2-0 defeat in Florence.
Berg offered no excuses and he is praying that it will not be a case of
third time unlucky.
"First I thought I would stop and see what was going on and then I thought
I would play it back to Bozzie (Mark Bosnich)," he explained. "But
Batistuta intercepted it, and he was a bit lucky because it fell to him,
and he ran straight through on goal.
"It was a bad mistake by me and that goal was my fault. You make a mistake
like I did and you lose the game.
"People say that these things happen, but they never happened to me before.
That's one of my strengths that I don't make any silly mistakes.
"But obviously that was a mistake again and I don't have any explanation -
it's just not good enough."
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FERGIE: NO EXCUSES
Sir Alex Ferguson claimed Manchester United gifted Fiorentina their two
goals as the Treble winners crashed to their heaviest Champions League
defeat in five years.
Roy Keane and Henning Berg blundered to allow Gabriel Batistuta and Abel
Balbo to score in the Stadio Comunale Artemio Franchi as United's Group B
campaign got off to a calamitous start.
``The game was decided by two bad mistakes and we can have no complaints,''
said United boss.
``We've got to accept the situation although it was a game we controlled
but we made bad mistakes. I don't think we deserved to lose but you can't
make excuses for those two goals.
``At this level you've got to make sure you don't make any mistakes - not
even one and that's cost us tonight.
``If we had not made those mistakes I don't think Fiorentina would have
been in the game.
``Because if you look at the facts they never had control of the game and
we did.''
Ferguson, though, admitted that Batistuta, whom he tried to sign twice in
the past three years, finished well for his goal in the 24th minute.
``You can't correct a mistake but you have to admit that was an absolutely
brilliant finish,'' he said.
``I don't know if he placed it or just hit it but nevertheless it was very
accurate and just inside the post.''
Ferguson also defended David Beckham, who was booed by the home fans after
he played on while a Fiorentina player was off the pitch receiving attention.
The England midfielder also came in for some rough treatment from opposing
players before he was booked for dissent after taking a free-kick without
the referee's permission.
Ferguson said: ``The referee signalled for him to play on because the
Fiorentina player was off the pitch so quite rightly we played on and it
was the referee's decision not our decision.''
Fiorentina coach Giovanni Trapattoni did not want to be drawn on the
Beckham issue.
He said: ``There was a bit of tension caused by that but I really don't
want to focus on that. The only bad thing from my point of view was that
Batistuta was booked and he will miss the game in Bordeaux.''
Trapattoni preferred to talk about what was a great result for the Serie A
side who have not conceded a goal in their three Champions League matches
against United and Arsenal.
``I was not surprised with this result because we have been working towards
this for some time.
``Our performances against Arsenal and Parma showed what we can be like and
it was a matter of believing in ourselves and that we could beat Manchester
United.''
United's next game against Valencia at Old Trafford on December 8 has taken
on even more importance and the Treble winners know it is a must-win game.
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