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Date: Thu Feb 25 00:04:50 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. Sir Bobby Charlton - Q & A
2. Bobby Charlton
3. Mailing from Hal Hargreaves
4. Wallsaver update
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Daily RED Trivia Thursday 25th February 1999:
25/2/1901: Vince Hayes made his debut at Walsall. Hayes had the misfortune to break
his leg twice with United, but after a spell at Brentford, rejoined the Reds and
playing at Full-back won an FA Cup Winners medal in 1909. He played a total
of 128 times and scored 2 goals between 1901-10. He joined Bradford in
November 1910.
1996: United mark their last visit to Burnden Park with a crushing 6-0 win against
Bolton Wanderers with goals from Paul Scholes 2, Steve Bruce, David Beckham,
Andy Cole and Nicky Butt. The Premiership game was watched by 21,381. Team
was: Schmeichel, P.Neville, Irwin, Bruce, Beckham, Pallister, Cantona (Scholes),
Butt, Cole, Keane, Giggs (McClair).
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Previous News:
Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
http://www.iol.ie/~redcafe/kidd.htm
Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!
http://www.red11.org/mufc/news/schmeichel.htm
Next games:
ALL Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
27 Southampton (H) 15.00
March
3 Inter Milan (H) ECLl "Quarter Final" 1st leg 19.45
7 Chelsea (H) 14.00 FAC6 *SKY SPORTS* LIVE* + DkTV1 Scand.
10 Liverpool (A) 19.45 PL (moved due to FAC)
13 Newcastle (A) 15.00 PL
17 Inter Milan (A) ECL "Quarter Final" 2nd leg 19.45
21 Everton (H) 15.00 PL
UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/
*** LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 21/02/99 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Manchester United 27 15 9 3 61 28 33 54
2 Chelsea 26 13 11 2 39 21 18 50
3 Arsenal 26 13 10 3 34 12 22 49
4 Aston Villa 26 12 8 6 37 27 10 44
5 Leeds United 26 11 9 6 39 25 14 42
6 Liverpool 26 11 6 9 49 32 17 39
7 Derby County 26 9 10 7 25 24 1 37
8 West Ham United 26 10 7 9 29 38 -9 37
9 Wimbledon 25 9 9 7 29 35 -6 36
10 Newcastle United 26 9 7 10 34 35 -1 34
11 Middlesbrough 26 7 12 7 33 36 -3 33
12 Sheffield Wednesday 25 9 5 11 31 24 7 32
13 Tottenham Hotspur 25 7 11 7 29 31 -2 32
14 Leicester City 25 7 9 9 25 34 -9 30
15 Everton 26 6 9 11 19 28 -9 27
16 Charlton Athletic 26 6 8 12 31 37 -6 26
17 Blackburn Rovers 26 6 8 12 27 36 -9 26
18 Coventry City 26 6 6 14 24 37 -13 24
19 Southampton 25 6 5 14 25 48 -23 23
20 Nottingham Forest 26 3 7 16 22 54 -32 16
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 20/02/99 ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079
08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174
14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198
21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475
29/11/98 Leeds United Home W 3-2 2 55,172
05/12/98 Aston Villa Away D 1-1 2 39,241
12/12/98 Tottenham Hotspur Away D 2-2 1 36,079
16/12/98 Chelsea Home D 1-1 2 55,159
19/12/98 Middlesbrough Home L 2-3 3 55,152
26/12/98 Nottingham Forest Home W 3-0 3 55,216
29/12/98 Chelsea Away D 0-0 3 34,741
10/01/99 West Ham United Home W 4-1 3 55,180
16/01/99 Leicester City Away W 6-2 2 22,091
31/01/99 Charlton Athletic Away W 1-0 1 20,043
03/02/99 Derby County Home W 1-0 1 55,174
06/02/99 Nottingham Forest Away W 8-1 1 30,025
17/02/99 Arsenal Home D 1-1 1 55,171
20/02/99 Coventry City Away W 1-0 1 22,596
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Champions League:
Group D P W D L F A Pts
Bayern Munich 6 3 2 1 9 6 11
Man United 6 2 4 0 20 11 10
Barcelona 6 2 2 2 11 9 8
Brondby 6 1 0 5 4 18 3
Dec 9 Brøndby 0-2 Barcelona
Dec 9 Man Utd 1-1 Bayern Munich
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CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE QUARTER-FINAL DRAW
Manchester Utd v Inter Milan
Real Madrid v Dynamo Kiev
Juventus v Olympiakos
Bayern Munich v Kaiserslautern
Ties to be played on March 3 and 17
*** ROUND 5 RESULTS (REPLAYS) ON 24/02/99 ***
Blackburn Rovers 0-1 NEWCASTLE UNITED 27,483 (AGG 0-1)
DERBY COUNTY 3-1 Huddersfield Town 28,704 (AGG 5-3)
TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 2-0 Leeds United 32,307 (AGG 3-1)
FAC Quarter Finals Draw ties to be
played the weekend of Saturday, March 6:
Man United v Chelsea (Sunday 7/3 1400 hrs UK)
Newcastle v Everton
Barnsley v Spurs
Arsenal v Derby
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New "Sardine" wallpaper from Sam
Subject: Sir Bobby Charlton - Q & A
Well I didn't suppose for a minute that there would be any revelations,
although wanting to play for a Bill Shankly
team takes him off my Xmas card list. And can he honestly say he had as
much fun as Georgie Boy!!!
The 'Rupert' question has Edwards hands written all over it.
Mark
Sir Bobby Charlton, 61, played for Manchester United Football Club between
1954 and 1973.
He was in the England squad that won the World Cup in 1966, along with his
brother Jackie.
He was knighted in 1994. He is now director of Manchester United, and leads
England's bid to host the World Cup in 2006.
What do you think about Rupert Murdoch owning Manchester United?
Ben Simon, Norwich
Rupert Murdoch doesn't own Manchester United till the Monopolies Commission
gives the OK,
and it doesn't really worry me much, as the club can and will continue to
prosper with or without his involvement.
However, if he doesn't succeed with the bid, Manchester United, being a
public company, may be open to bids,
hostile or not, from companies further removed from soccer than Sky, who do
have commitment to the game through
television. I think it will go through.
Who has been the greatest influence on your career?
Rob Milling, Crewkerne
My father was a major influence in my early life. Later, Jimmy Murphy
taught me the standards needed to reach the top
as a pro and as coach at Manchester United. He spent hours giving me
personal tuition, work that helped me succeed in
the game, and I could never have progressed without his help.
If you weren't on the board of directors for Manchester United, what would
you think about Alex Ferguson being
manager of England?
Adele Williams, Warwick
Alex Ferguson I could never see as English manager, knowing the devoted
Scot he is. But he likes a challenge
and may just have proved me wrong. Maybe he knew what a fight we would put
up to keep him, and he declined.
Who do you think should succeed Glenn Hoddle?
Nicholas Bender, Rutland
Kevin Keegan is now in place but if the job had been offered as part time
it would be interesting to see who would have
thrown their hat into the ring.
Do you think Glenn Hoddle should have been allowed to keep his job?
Stephen Gorman, Herts
I think the accumulation of things made it hard to see him stay.
Which football player reminds you of yourself?
Chris Maugham, Glasgow
Some of David Beckham's assets (on the field) - his long passing and his
desire to be the best; also he likes the
challenge football gives.
Do you really think England has any chance of hosting the 2006 World Cup?
John May, South London
We have the best bid in terms of stadia, infrastructure and place, and
everyone I am in contact with wants the chance to
show off our game and country to the world. I am proud of our game and I
feel 40 years is long enough in between
World Cup finals here. New generations of football followers want to have
the opportunity to have their own heroes instead
of hearing about the good old days, and we as oldies have to try to give
them that chance to succeed.
I don't want to make this a commercial but as a prime mover for our bid, I
have to say we have a real bid; we are ready for it.
If the best bid is chosen I think we will be the one. A lot of work has to
be done, but I am confident.
Many people feel that premiership footballers are overpaid, spoilt brats
with no experience of the real world.
What are your views?
Anon
While there is a lot of money in the game the players will want a fair
share. Overpaid, maybe spoilt - but not generally - and,
you may say, no connection to the real world. But football is the world to
most of them, and the time is not available to
experience most of what life offers till retirement arrives.
Do you think there should be a European Super League?
Kevin Wragg, Liverpool
It is a giant step which needs a lot of thought. The general public like
myself don't find the prospect that attractive.
Do you think the modern game is as entertaining a spectacle as it used to
be?
RB, Essex
I still love going to games. It is a thrilling spectacle usually, although
TV leaves little to the imagination.
I remember having to wait 12 months before I could see my hero, Stanley
Matthews, play at Newcastle when I was a lad.
It built up many images of what great skills he might perform. These days
there are few surprises.
The pace of the game makes a different spectacle - but a spectacle
nevertheless.
You've had the reputation as the cleanest player ever. Was there ever a
time you wanted to kick somebody?
Roger Thompson, Alton, Hants
I never thought of kicking anyone! It was not my game. I appreciate,
though, that we are all different, and it would probably
be a dull old game without the physical players.
How can you justify Manchester United selling replica kits for far more
than the cost price?
Liz Scott-Robson, Manchester
We don't sell anything without a great deal of thought and discussion. We
are a business responsible to our shareholders
and are guided by market forces. I may be old-fashioned, but if something I
wanted was beyond my family finances
I'd have to do without.
What was your best-ever footballing moment?
Graham Milne, Wiltshire
Final whistle at the World Cup in 1966.
Why did you hang on to the classic "Bobby Charlton" drag-a-strand-over
hairstyle for so long?
Thomas Coleman, London
I don't know. Vanity, I suppose.
Do you think George Best has had more fun than you?
Emma Simon, Yorkshire
Certainly not.
Who is the greatest player you've ever played with - or against?
Ian Dukes, Poplar, east London
Duncan Edwards was maybe the greatest but we will never know how good he
might have become, as he was tragically
killed in Munich.
Denis Law, George Best, Nobby Stiles were great. Alfredo Di Stefano of Real
Madrid was the most intelligent footballer
and charismatic player I played against. Pele I only played against once,
yet he made his impression on me -
but not like Di Stefano.
What's your biggest regret in football?
Pete Millar, Brussels
I never got to play for a Bill Shankly team. Even once, it would have been
a pleasure.
Why do you think Old Trafford has such a lack of atmosphere?
Bill Granleese, Manchester
There is a lot of atmosphere at Old Trafford, but not as much as there used
to be. I think we watch matches live like watching the
box these days, but the really important FA Cup ties and European matches
seem to wake people up.
New "Sardine" wallpaper from Sam
Subject: Bobby Charlton
> >Nice page on Bobby. (I''ve been a hardcore United fan for 34 years, but am
> >stranded in New York these days. ) I've been trying to figure out for a while
> >if Bobby made it to 300 goals in first-class football. It would depend on how
> >many he scored for Preston. If he scored 247 for United and 49 for England,
> >he''d need to have got 4 more to reach the magic figure. Any answers?
> >Bobby was my childhood hero--there has never been anyone quite like him. My
> >first glimpse of him (it was on TV) was watching him go on a mazy midfield
> >dribble against Derby in the FA Cup, 1966 I think. We won 5-2, but he didn't
> >score that day. Still, I was hooked.
> ArtinAmeri@aol.com
Graham,
The answer is Yes!
United 247 in 754 (1956-73)
England 49 in 106 (1958-70)
Preston 8 in 38 (1974-75)
Total 304 in 898
The match you recalled was in the FA Cup 3rd Round on Jan 22 1966.
United won 5-2 at Derby (Best 2, Law 2, Herd). The team was:
Gregg, Dunne, Cantwell, Crerand, Foulkes, Stiles, Best, Law,
Charlton, Herd, Aston.
After Derby we beat Rotherham away 1-0 (Connelly) in a replay, won
4-2 at Wolves (Law 2, Herd, Best), beat Preston 3-1 (Law 2, Connelly)
after a replay, and then came unstuck in the SF 0-1 against Everton
at Burnden Park.
Bobby of course still holds many United records, most Career Apps
(754) apps in League (606) League goals (199) FA Cup Apps (79)
and finally International Caps (106).
Paul Hinson (email p.l.hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk)
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Subject: Mailing from Hal Hargreaves
I have been asked to select ten of the greatest players who have played for
Manchester United Football Club, and who have given me so much pleasure
over the years. So here goes:-
1. Johnny Carey
Captain of United and also Captain of Ireland, played in the 1948 Cup final
which was Matt Busby's first trophy. Johnny could play in any position and
at times was asked to do so. A 'Gentlemanly Footballer', who to my
knowledge was never booked.
2. Roger Byrne
Another Captain of United, who no doubt would have become Captain of
England, if, sadly, he had not been killed at Munich. I'll never forget the
day when he received the League Championship Cup with blood streaming down
the side of his face; a day to remember.
3. Duncan Edwards
What more can I say about this man? A COLOSSUS, who dominated ever game I
saw him play. He could kick a ball with tremendous power and accuracy with
both feet, was as good a centre forward as he was a mid-field player, also
a great defender. In my opinion had he not been killed, he would have lived
to become Captain of United and Captain of England. He was undoubtedly the
best player I have ever seen.
4. Sir Bobby Charlton
After Duncan, Bobby was my all time favourite player. A gentleman on the
field, who was treated with respect by other players and very seldom
tackled. Consequently he was seldom on the injury list. When you consider
that Bobby is England's top scorer and most of his goals were scored from
mid-field it is a tremendous achievement. I don't know how many games he
played for United but he must be top candidate to have played the most. A
truly great ambassador for sport.
5. Bryan Robson
Captain Marvel - a truly justified nickname. What a magnificent player.
When you consider how many injuries he sustained it is incredible that he
managed to be as good a player as he was. He was the driving force in every
side he played with. A truly great player.
6. George Best
Any supporter who didn't have the pleasure of watching Duncan, Roger or
Johnny Carey, will choose George as their best player. As near a genius on
the field as you can get. His ball control, his cool head and shooting
ability, plus his tackling must make him an all-time great player. What a
pity that he never played in the World Cup.
7. Denis Law
A quicksilver artist who defenders ignored at their peril. Given a quarter
of a chance he would score. When you saw a picture of him as a very young
man you would immediately say "He'll never make a footballer"; how wrong
you would have been. Denis was one of Matt's best ever signings.
8. Eric Cantona
Now to more recent times. "Ooh, Ah, Cantona" - how that name used to echo
all round the stadium and still does occasionally. We all know that Eric
was one reason why we won so many Championships, especially after going 26
years without doing so. A wonderful artist on the field and an absolute
bargain buy from Leeds. It was with great sadness that we saw him leave.
9. Peter Schmeichel
United have had good goalkeepers in the past but never 'world class
keepers'. 'Good keepers', yes, but none as good as Peter. Another player
without whom we would never have won the Championships we did. How many
times have I shouted "Big Daft S--", every time he kicked the ball to the
opposition goalkeeper, but nevertheless when he throws the ball to a player
it more than makes up for it. I cannot believe that he intends to leave at
the end of the season. We wish him good fortune for the future.
10. Jaap Stam
Last but by no means least I say that this man is another COLOSSUS. An
undoubted world class player. In my opinion he is by and far the best
central defender we have ever had, and only time will tell how much better
he will become. At the time of writing we are in a good position for the
TREBLE and with this player in the defence we have a very good chance of
succeeding. Who Knows!!!
So concludes my selection of my 'Ten Best Players'. Having selected them I
have to say there are a lot more outstanding players I have had to leave out.
Hal Hargreaves
Peter Hargreaves (United Kingdom)
http://www.cheswem.u-net.com/
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