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Date: Fri Apr 23 02:12:35 GMT 1999
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This Issue:
1. Big smiles all around the world
2. Reserves Result from OT Last Night
3. More on Juve from Terry in Saudi
4. STAM DOUBTFUL FOR LEEDS TRIP
5. United fury at ticket share-out
6. United chairman tightens his grip on the purse strings
7. Butt vows to seize Cup for missing colleagues
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This day in UNITED History: April 23
1973: Arnie Sidebottom made his debut against Sheffield United. A willowy
Centre-half, Sidebottom made 20 appearances between 1973-75 and moved on
to Huddersfield Town in January 1976. Also a cricketer, he played for
Yorkshire and appeared in 1 Test Match for England against Australia in 1985.
1977: Goals from Steve Coppell and Jimmy Greenhoff see United beat
Leeds United 2-1 in the FA Cup Semi-Final at Hillsborough watched by 55,000.
Team was: Stepney, Nicholl, Houston, McIlroy, B.Greenhoff, Buchan, Coppell,
J.Greenhoff, Pearson, Macari. Hill.
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Hope to see as many of you as possible in Sunny Spain the 26th May!
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UEFA Champions League final tickets information
The following has appeared on the UEFA website regarding tickets for the
final. Subject to the minor matter of beating Juventus next week, this is of
particular interest to supporters outside England, since applications will
not be accepted from the countries of competing clubs.
UEFA Champions League final tickets information
UEFA Champions League Final
Venue Camp Nou (Estadi FC Barcelona), Barcelona, Spain
Date Wednesday 26 May 1999
Kick-Off 20.45 CET (19.45 GMT)
Apart from ticket orders from supporters residing in the countries of the two
finalist clubs - Manchester United FC (England) or Juventus FC (Italy) and
Dynamo Kyiv (Ukraine) or FC Bayern München (Germany) - which, for security
reasons, must be submitted to the clubs concerned, ticket orders for the
general public irrespective of their country of residence can be ordered
through the Real Federación Española de Fútbol (Spanish Football Federation).
Ticket Order Methods: Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF)
Post Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF)
Alberto Bosch, 13
E-29014 MADRID
Spain
Telephone ++34-91-369 5045
++34-91-369 4771
++34-91-369 4129
Fax ++34-91-429 8428
E-Mail rfef@tsai.es
Closing Date Thursday 29 April 1999
No supporter may purchase more than four tickets, subject to availability.
Tickets are for personal use only, and must not be resold or used for
commercial purposes. The Real Federación Española de Fútbol (Spanish Football
Federation) may reject or reduce any ticket order considered to be
unwarranted.
Tickets
Prices Pesetas
Category 1 14,000 Ptas
Category 2 10,000 Ptas
Category 3 7,000 Ptas
Category 4 4,500 Ptas
Written confirmation - by fax or mail - will be forwarded on receipt of an
order for tickets for this match, and the amount for the total price of the
tickets will be transferred to the Banco Popular Español.
Account Number: 0075-0591-17-0600300602
Banco Popular Español, Agencia 51, Calle Ruiz de Alarcón 25, E-28014 MADRID
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*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 21/04/99 ***
Liverpool 0-1 Leicester City 36,019
Sheffield Wednesday 1-1 Newcastle United 21,545
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*** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 21/04/99 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Manchester United 32 19 10 3 72 32 40 67
2 Arsenal 33 18 12 3 48 14 34 66
3 Chelsea 33 17 13 3 49 26 23 64
4 Leeds United 33 16 11 6 53 29 24 59
5 Aston Villa 34 14 10 10 45 39 6 52
6 West Ham United 34 14 9 11 39 41 -2 51
7 Middlesbrough 34 12 14 8 46 42 4 50
8 Derby County 33 12 11 10 37 41 -4 47
9 Tottenham Hotspur 33 11 13 9 40 38 2 46
10 Liverpool 33 12 8 13 57 43 14 44
11 Newcastle United 34 11 10 13 45 49 -4 43
12 Leicester City 33 10 13 10 35 41 -6 43
13 Wimbledon 34 10 11 13 38 55 -17 41
14 Sheffield Wednesday 34 11 6 17 39 40 -1 39
15 Everton 34 9 10 15 31 41 -10 37
16 Coventry City 34 10 7 17 35 47 -12 37
17 Blackburn Rovers 33 7 11 15 35 46 -11 32
18 Charlton Athletic 34 7 11 16 36 48 -12 32
19 Southampton 34 8 7 19 31 63 -32 31
20 Nottingham Forest 34 4 9 21 30 66 -36 21
*** FIXTURES ON 24/04/99 ***
Aston Villa v Nottingham Forest
Blackburn Rovers v Liverpool
Derby County v Southampton
Everton v Charlton Athletic
Leicester City v Coventry City
Middlesbrough v Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham United
Wimbledon v Newcastle United
*** FIXTURES ON 25/04/99 ***
Leeds United v Manchester United
Sheffield Wednesday v Chelsea
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 21/03/99 ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079
08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174
14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198
21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475
29/11/98 Leeds United Home W 3-2 2 55,172
05/12/98 Aston Villa Away D 1-1 2 39,241
12/12/98 Tottenham Hotspur Away D 2-2 1 36,079
16/12/98 Chelsea Home D 1-1 2 55,159
19/12/98 Middlesbrough Home L 2-3 3 55,152
26/12/98 Nottingham Forest Home W 3-0 3 55,216
29/12/98 Chelsea Away D 0-0 3 34,741
10/01/99 West Ham United Home W 4-1 3 55,180
16/01/99 Leicester City Away W 6-2 2 22,091
31/01/99 Charlton Athletic Away W 1-0 1 20,043
03/02/99 Derby County Home W 1-0 1 55,174
06/02/99 Nottingham Forest Away W 8-1 1 30,025
17/02/99 Arsenal Home D 1-1 1 55,171
20/02/99 Coventry City Away W 1-0 1 22,596
27/02/99 Southampton Home W 2-1 1 55,316
13/03/99 Newcastle United Away W 2-1 1 36,500
21/03/99 Everton Home W 3-1 1 55,182
03/04/99 Wimbledon Away D 1-1 1 26,121
17/04/99 Sheffield Wednesday Home W 3-0 1 55,270
*** TEAM RESULTS SUMMARY - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 17/04/99 ***
P Won Drawn Lost For Against Points
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Home 17 12 (71%) 4 (24%) 1 (6%) 41 (2.4) 16 (0.9) 40 (2.4)
Away 15 7 (47%) 6 (40%) 2 (13%) 31 (2.1) 16 (1.1) 27 (1.8)
Total 32 19 (59%) 10 (31%) 3 (9%) 72 (2.3) 32 (1.0) 67 (2.1)
Averages per game in (brackets)
*** TEAM STATISTICS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 17/04/99 ***
AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 55,188
HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 27/02/99 - Southampton (55,316)
LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 15/08/98 - Leicester City (55,052)
BEST WIN: 06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)
BEST HOME WIN: 17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1)
HEAVIEST HOME DEFEAT: 19/12/98 - Middlesbrough (2-3)
BEST AWAY WIN: 06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)
*****
UEFA Champions League Final: Wednesday 26 May 1999
*** MANCHESTER UNITED v BAYERN MUNICH ***
Venue Camp Nou (Estadi FC Barcelona), Barcelona, Spain
Kick-Off 20.45 CET (19.45 GMT)
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Subject: Big smiles all around the world
MANCHESTER, England (April 22, 1999 11:40 a.m. EDT
http://www.sportserver.com) - The red half of Manchester -- and every
other town and city in England where Manchester United fans live
-- woke up with a big smile on its face on Thursday after United
clinched a place in the European Cup Final for the first time since 1968.
Wednesday's thrilling 3-2 victory over Juventus in Turin which gave
United a 4-3 aggregate success to clinch their berth in the final against
Bayern Munich in Barcelona on May 26, was United's second epic
victory in seven days.
A week ago they overcame Arsenal 2-1 with a superb display in an F.A.
Cup semifinal replay -- and won again in Turin even without the injured
Ryan Giggs whose brilliant winner at Villa Park put United into the F.A.
Cup Final.
The city could hardly contain its joy on Thursday with the Manchester
Evening News proclaiming: "It's Party Time"
The newspaper wrote: "It was the party to end all parties. The jubilant
red army danced till they dropped as soon as the referee blew the final
whistle after United's nail-biting victory. The dream has come true --
United in the European Cup Final for the first time in 31 years."
United great Sir Bobby Charlton, who scored when Manchester United
beat Benfica 4-1 to win the European Cup in 1968, and who is now a
United director, was ecstatic.
"I knew we had to do something special to win there," he said, "and I
always felt we could do it. We deserved to win, we were the better team
on the night and this is a marvellous achievement for the club and for
English football. Now we must go on and win it."
United's chief executive Martin Edwards echoed Sir Bobby's thoughts
when he said: "I think without a doubt this is great for English football,
it's great for the club and England as a whole."
Manchester United have proved their maturity this season after reaching
the semifinals of the European Cup in 1997 and the quarter-finals last
season.
Wednesday's match was their 25th without defeat in all competitions
since they last lost 3-2 to Middlesbrough on December 19 -- and
significantly their first ever win in Italy after 43 years of European
competition.
Alex Ferguson's team are already drawing comparisons with the great
1960s team of Denis Law, George Best and Charlton, but goalkeeper
Alex Stepney, who played in the 1968 final, says it is impossible to really
do so.
"It's a different game now, much quicker than when we played and they
train much harder too. We were very successful in our time, and they
are successful now -- all I hope is they go on and win it."
Ferguson, who said that Wednesday's win was the highlight of his
managerial career so far, now has a chance to join the immortals of
English soccer by bringing the European Cup back to Manchester.
It took Sir Matt Busby 12 years from 1956 to 1968 to win the trophy -- his
dreams put on hold for a decade after the Munich air disaster wiped out
most of his Busby Babes team in 1958.
Coincidentally, the date of the final, May 26, is the 90th anniversary of the
birth of Sir Matt, who died in 1994.
There could hardly be a more fitting day for Ferguson to match his most
momentous victory.
Subject: Reserves Result from OT Last Night
Sean Dundee scored the only goal of a totally boring match
for the reserves tonight. UNITED 0-1 Liverpool
Debut for G.Clegg (not related) + new Norweigen goalkeeper
Kenneth Hoie.
Not much work for the goalkeeper.
Out attack was non-existant.
Phil Neville/Wes Brown played 1st half
Full team:
Hoie
Clegg
Curtis
May
Brown
P Neville
Wellens
Wilson
Healy
Ford
Greening
Bench:
OShea
Culkin
Fitzpatrick
Howard
G Clegg
Pics of Kenneth Hoie:
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Kenneth Hoie
19 year old has been training at Cliff 2 weeks
hoie3.jpg
hoie4.jpg
hoie5.jpg
hoie.jpg
hoie2.jpg
Subject: More on Juve from Terry in Saudi
The fact that it's United and Bayern in the final says a lot about how
tough our original CL group was. To have got out of it unbeaten, and then
to have eliminated Inter and Juve on the way to the final also says a
helluvalot about this United team. It's the same in the FA Cup with
the scalps of Boro, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal all hanging from our
belts. We've had it tough in both competitions; nothing has been given to
us on a plate.
We'll miss Keano of course, but think back to May 29, 1968 when the King,
Denis Law, was missing. We hit four that day without him. On that day we
also saw a fine performance from young Johnny Aston who tormented his
opponents down the left wing. The occasion brought the best out of a
player who hadn't been an Old Trafford favourite. There may be a hopeful
message there for Jesper. The Bavarians have a lot of big powerful guys,
but they're getting on in years, and so may be susceptible to the speed of
Cole, Yorkie, Giggs and Jesper. I was watching a German channel yesterday
and Der Kaiser, Franz Beckenbauer, seemed pleased to have got United in
the final. In fact, he was as pleased as the coaches of both Inter and
Juve had been. Hhhmmm.
Whatever happens, win or lose, United's fighting spirit will be there, and
the great team spirit will mean the lads will be giving everything to get
those winners' medals for Keano and Scholesie as well.
But they'll now have to shut out all thoughts of Barcelona. It's back to
work. There's a little sheep shearing to do on Sunday down on the
farm. Baaaaah!
_____________
Terry
Saudi
Subject: STAM DOUBTFUL FOR LEEDS TRIP
Manchester United defender Jaap Stam is a doubt for
Sunday's Premiership match against Leeds at Elland Road.
The 26-year-old centre-half has pulled out of Holland's
friendly match against Morocco next Wednesday because
of an Achilles tendon injury picked up in United's stirring
semi-final, second-leg victory over Juventus last night.
Holland coach Frank Rijkaard has called up PSV
Eindhoven defender Andre Ooijer to replace Stam for the
match in Arnhem.
Subject: United fury at ticket share-out
By Daniel Taylor
Friday April 23, 1999
The celebrations of Manchester United's
supporters were tempered yesterday by
the revelation that the club will be
allocated only 25,000 tickets for the
Champions League final, adding a
potentially explosive element to their
showdown with Bayern Munich.
Uefa have insisted on a seats-only crowd
limit of 98,000, meaning Barcelona's
120,000-capacity Nou Camp will not be full
for the showpiece event on May 26. The
decision was yesterday branded a 'joke'
by supporters' groups amid fears of it
causing security problems.
Bayern Munich will receive roughly the
same amount, but representatives from
both clubs will urge a rethink during a
meeting with Uefa and the Spanish
Federation today.
Each club will initially get 16,100 tickets
and 9,000 more once those allocations are
sold. Barcelona will receive 10,000 while
Uefa, their marketing company TEAM, the
Spanish FA and various sponsors will
account for 30,000.
A further 8,000 remain for the media,
volunteers and police. United's average
gate this season is 55,188 and Bayern
regularly attract 45,000.
'This is asking for trouble,' said Andy
Walsh, chairman of the Independent
Manchester United Supporters'
Association which wants the allocation
doubled. 'The tickets will end up on the
black market in the hands of touts. The
security problems are obvious.'
The Spanish media has begun raising
fears about the potential for trouble,
despite the national mint producing
specially encoded tickets to guard against
forgeries.
'We have one of the best stadiums in the
world... modern, comfortable, with
excellent visibility. We just hope that the
English and German supporters respect
it,' commented the Barcelona-based
sports daily, Sport, yesterday.
The sheer number of those following
England's best-supported club is always
likely to cause problems. Several people
were injured during a crush caused by
ticketless fans before the quarter-final
against Internazionale at San Siro.
'If there are security problems, Uefa will
have to take the rap,' Walsh added. 'Both
clubs have well over 40,000 season ticket
holders, which makes this decision look a
joke. Thousands will travel to Spain
without tickets.'
The first tickets will go on general sale in
Barcelona on Monday, priced from £12.50
to £58. Application forms are available by
telephoning the FEF on 0034 914 201362.
To compound matters, every flight from
England to Barcelona in the week before
the final is reported to have been booked
by noon yesterday. Many United fans had
made their bookings before Alex
Ferguson's side had clinched their place in
the final.
Such ingenuity has left large numbers of
supporters with little option but to make
alternative arrangements. Even then
accommodation is likely to be a major
problem, with the final clashing with
Spanish Grand Prix week and the start of
the holiday season.
Subject: United chairman tightens his grip on the purse strings
By Michael Walker
Friday April 23, 1999
Having just guided an English club to a
first European Cup final for 14 years and
Manchester United to their first in 31
years, all achieved in the most difficult and
dramatic of circumstances, Alex Ferguson
was in no position to restrain his
emotions.
It was about half an hour to midnight on
Wednesday and Ferguson had re-emerged
on to the pitch at Stadio delle Alpi to
salute the 3,000 or so United fans still
held in the vast concrete bowl.
Euphorically they sang at him: 'We shall
not be moved.'
His repeated punching of the air showed
that he was. If Ferguson was at full
throttle, however, deep inside the stadium
another significant character in the Old
Trafford list of key individuals, the
chairman Martin Edwards, was putting his
foot on the brake.
Ferguson may have overseen a
prosperous increase in United's value in
terms of esteem, domestically and
internationally, but Edwards is the man
who checks the price tags and he was
unwavering in his insistence that while
reaching the European Cup final was all
very admirable, Ferguson, who feels he
needs two or three new world-class
players for next season's expanded
Champions League, should not see this
as the moment to ask for fresh funds.
According to Edwards, United's priorities
lie elsewhere, namely the enlarging of Old
Trafford.
Traditionally, recruiting players while in a
state of strength has been seen as one of
the secrets of continual success. It also
makes recruitment easier. But Edwards
said: 'Reaching the final doesn't alter our
position in terms of our financial planning.
We run a very serious business at
Manchester United. We look at the
situation and sit down each year and
decide a policy on transfers.
'Last year we spent £28 million because
we were disappointed that the team hadn't
won a trophy. We bought Stam, Yorke
and Blomqvist, who are young men and
who should be around for a while. We have
other players in their early 20s coming
through, but you can only have a squad of
a certain size, otherwise you have too
many players who are not playing in the
big games and they become dissatisfied.
So it's all a question of balance.
'The final will generate around £3 million if
we win it and just over £2 million if we
don't, and that won't make much difference
to us. We've got a big squad, we've
committed £30 million to the stadium and
£14 million to the training ground.
'Add that to the £28 million we spent last
summer and that's £72 million in 18
months, which is a lot of money. People
are going to pan me for saying these
things, but we are a public company and
we have certain restrictions. We can't
spend money we haven't got and we won't
spend what we haven't got.'
Edwards's financial argument is
compelling, though it was his openness
which was surprising given that he is well
aware of Ferguson's thoughts on
developing his present squad. But there
will be money only for a replacement for
Peter Schmeichel, who is bound for Italy.
'If the manager wants to toy with his own
squad to generate money so he can bring
new players in, that's up to him,' Edwards
said. 'Managers aren't really interested in
profits and loss, in shareholders and the
rest of it.
'They basically want to win matches, their
ambition is to have the best players and
win every match, which I can understand.
But as a board member you have a
slightly bigger responsibility and I've
always been honest about that.
'But I can't win on this. I get slaughtered
on these things, but I repeat that we can't
spend what we haven't got. We've spent
£70 million odd. We've been the bravest
club of the lot and that's why we are in the
final.
'Now we need to concentrate on the
stadium. I know it is an emotional
business, but nobody's going to thank us
in 20 years' time if we aren't as successful
then as we are now. We are in it
long-term, not short-term.'
As is Ferguson, of course, and Edwards
added that discussions on a new contract
for Ferguson will open in the summer. The
57-year-old Ferguson's present one
expires in June 2000. 'We will offer him a
contract that will be worth more than any
other manager in the UK is on. That's all I
want to say.'
Then the money stopped talking, lyrical
reflection was left to others.
Subject: Butt vows to seize Cup for missing colleagues
By Ken Lawrence
Friday, April 23, 1999
Even in the moment of the greatest triumph of his life, Nicky Butt could not
totally let himself go - not when he looked across the dressing-room and saw
the slumped figures of Roy Keane and Paul Scholes.
Butt was not alone in understanding the desolation being experienced by the
players whose yellow cards against Juventus have shut them out of the
Champions League Final - and of the possibility of completing the incredible
Treble of Premiership, FA Cup and European Cup next month in Barcelona.
The pop of champagne corks was to be expected after the miracle of Turin. But
United unite in misfortune as well as triumph and Butt said: 'What we have to
do now is go out and beat Bayern Munich for Roy and Paul.
'Of course after the game there was a bit of jumping up and down and a few
shouts. But, really, it was all pretty muted because we all felt so sorry for Roy
and Paul. They showed guts on the pitch by keeping going as they did, even
when they knew they would be out of the final, and they showed even greater
guts in a way later.
'They tried to stay upbeat as much as they could but in the dressing-room there
was one moment when I looked over my shoulder and saw them just sitting
there and I saw the look on their faces. When you see that, you don't feel like
going too far with your celebrations.'
Butt, named yesterday in Kevin Keegan's England squad for next week's
friendly in Hungary, is already preparing for the challenge of facing Bayern. He
said: 'None of us are scared because, against Juventus, I think we finally proved
to ourselves that we have come of age.
'We're men now, not young boys still learning. For my part, if I have to take on
extra responsibility, then I'm ready for it.
'It's not just the Champions League. We have the chance to win the Treble. To
do so we have to win eight games. I know we are capable of that.
'We have this amazing spirit and a belief and trust in each other. So on May 26,
when the team go out to face Bayern, there will be only 11 players wearing the
shirts - but the spirit of all 22 of us will be out on the pitch.'
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