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Date: Thurs Jun 17 GMT+00:00 1999
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This Issue:
1. Montenegro bid D-Day
2. EUFA CL Theme 2 versions Wave + Real Audio
3. PLAYER OF THE SEASON 1998/99
4. Keane battle
5. OFFICIAL EXPANSION
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17/6/1964:
Graeme Hogg born in Aberdeen. After playing in the 1982 Youth Cup Final,
Hogg made his senior debut in the FA Cup at Bournemouth in January 1984, and
played in the 1985 Charity Shield against Everton, missing out on the 1985 FA Cup
through injury. Between 1984-88 the rugged Centre-half made 109 appearances
and scored 1 goal. He later played for Postmouth and Heart of Midlothian.
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Next games: ****Pre season tour JULY 1999 ***
Melbourne Sydney
Thu 15/7 MAN. UNITED V SOCCEROOS evening in Melbourne
at the MCG (Melbourne Cricket Ground- capacity 90,000.) kick off 20.00hrs.
- Melbourne Cricket Ground 5 minutes from the city. Good transport available
Tickets available - starts from $60.00 - behind the goal -next up is $90.00,
$130.00 and $150.00
Sun 18/7 MAN. UNITED V SOCCEROOS STADIUM AUSTRALIA, Olympic Boulevard,
Homebush Bay, Sydney NEW SOUTH WALES 15.00 local time
Tickets for Sydney game try here:
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then type MANCHESTER in the search field.
+ Far East
Wed 21/7 Shangai first time ever!!!
Sat 24/7 Hong Kong Repeat of the 1997 game
"ALL matches will be shown "the same day" om MUTV.
August 1st CHARITY SHIELD Wembley: Arsenal
August 3rd Omagh Town, St Julian's Road ground
Temp seating will be erected to increase the
capacity to 7,000 for the game.
UNITED Stats v All teams:
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*** FINAL PREMIER LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 16/05/99 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Manchester United 38 14 4 1 45 18 8 9 2 35 19 43 79
2 Arsenal 38 14 5 0 34 5 8 7 4 25 12 42 78
3 Chelsea 38 12 6 1 29 13 8 9 2 28 17 27 75
4 Leeds United 38 12 5 2 32 9 6 8 5 30 25 28 67
5 West Ham United 38 11 3 5 32 26 5 6 8 14 27 -7 57
6 Aston Villa 38 10 3 6 33 28 5 7 7 18 18 5 55
7 Liverpool 38 10 5 4 44 24 5 4 10 24 25 19 54
8 Derby County 38 8 7 4 22 19 5 6 8 18 26 -5 52
9 Middlesbrough 38 7 9 3 25 18 5 6 8 23 36 -6 51
10 Leicester City 38 7 6 6 25 25 5 7 7 15 21 -6 49
11 Tottenham Hotspur 38 7 7 5 28 26 4 7 8 19 24 -3 47
12 Sheffield Wednesday 38 7 5 7 20 15 6 2 11 21 27 -1 46
13 Newcastle United 38 7 6 6 26 25 4 7 8 22 29 -6 46
14 Everton 38 6 8 5 22 12 5 2 12 20 35 -5 43
15 Coventry City 38 8 6 5 26 21 3 3 13 13 30 -12 42
16 Wimbledon 38 7 7 5 22 21 3 5 11 18 42 -23 42
17 Southampton 38 9 4 6 29 26 2 4 13 8 38 -27 41
18 Charlton Athletic 38 4 7 8 20 20 4 5 10 21 36 -15 36
19 Blackburn Rovers 38 6 5 8 21 24 1 9 9 17 28 -14 35
20 Nottingham Forest 38 3 7 9 18 31 4 2 13 17 38 -34 30
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 05/05/99 ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079
08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174
14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198
21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475
29/11/98 Leeds United Home W 3-2 2 55,172
05/12/98 Aston Villa Away D 1-1 2 39,241
12/12/98 Tottenham Hotspur Away D 2-2 1 36,079
16/12/98 Chelsea Home D 1-1 2 55,159
19/12/98 Middlesbrough Home L 2-3 3 55,152
26/12/98 Nottingham Forest Home W 3-0 3 55,216
29/12/98 Chelsea Away D 0-0 3 34,741
10/01/99 West Ham United Home W 4-1 3 55,180
16/01/99 Leicester City Away W 6-2 2 22,091
31/01/99 Charlton Athletic Away W 1-0 1 20,043
03/02/99 Derby County Home W 1-0 1 55,174
06/02/99 Nottingham Forest Away W 8-1 1 30,025
17/02/99 Arsenal Home D 1-1 1 55,171
20/02/99 Coventry City Away W 1-0 1 22,596
27/02/99 Southampton Home W 2-1 1 55,316
13/03/99 Newcastle United Away W 2-1 1 36,500
21/03/99 Everton Home W 3-1 1 55,182
03/04/99 Wimbledon Away D 1-1 1 26,121
17/04/99 Sheffield Wednesday Home W 3-0 1 55,270
25/04/99 Leeds United Away D 1-1 2 40,255
01/05/99 Aston Villa Home W 2-1 1 55,189
05/05/99 Liverpool Away D 2-2 2 44,702
09/05/99 Middlesbrough Away W 1-0 1 34,665
12/05/99 Blackburn Away D 0-0 1 30,436
16/05/99 Tottenham Hotspur Home W 2-1 1 55,189
*** TEAM STATISTICS - MANCHESTER UNITED - 1998/9
AVERAGE HOME ATTENDANCE: 55,188
HIGHEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 27/02/99 - Southampton (55,316)
LOWEST HOME ATTENDANCE: 15/08/98 - Leicester City (55,052)
BEST WIN: 06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)
BEST HOME WIN: 17/10/98 - Wimbledon (5-1)
HEAVIEST HOME DEFEAT: 19/12/98 - Middlesbrough (2-3)
BEST AWAY WIN: 06/02/99 - Nottingham Forest (8-1)
HEAVIEST AWAY DEFEAT: 20/09/98 - Arsenal (0-3)*****
Champions League:
Group D P W D L F A Pts
Bayern Munich 6 3 2 1 9 6 11
Man United 6 2 4 0 20 11 10
Barcelona 6 2 2 2 11 9 8
Brondby 6 1 0 5 4 18 3
Dec 9 Brøndby 0-2 Barcelona
Dec 9 Man Utd 1-1 Bayern Munich
******
CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE QUARTER-FINALS
Manchester Utd 2 v 0 Inter Milan
Real Madrid 1 v 1 Dynamo Kiev
Juventus 2 v 1 Olympiakos
Bayern Munich 2 v 0 Kaiserslautern
**DYNAMO KIEV 2 v 0 REAL MADRID (Agg:3-1)
FC KAISERSLAUTERN 0 v 4 **BAYERN MUNICH (Agg:0-6)
INTERNAZIONALE FC 1 v 1 **MANCHESTER UNITED (Agg:1-3)
OLYMPIAKOS 1 v 1 **JUVENTUS (Agg:2-3)
Semi Finals
Manchester United v Juventus 4-3agg 3-2 [1-1]
Bayern Munchen v Dynamo Kiev 4-3agg 1-0 [3-3]
UEFA Champions League Final MANCHESTER UNITED 2 v 1 BAYERN MUNICH
Venue Camp Nou (Estadi FC Barcelona), Barcelona, Spain
Date Wednesday 26 May 1999 Kick-Off 20.45 CET (19.45 GMT)
THE FANTASTIC TRIPLE WAS WON!!
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Click on pic for more celebration in Manchester!"
Subject: Montenegro bid D-Day
United should find out in the next 24 hours whether their reported
£3.5 million bid for Argentinian playmaker Daniel Montenegro
has been successful.
The 20-year-old star's club Huracan held a board meeting last
night to discuss their financial plight and three bids for players
which could solve their problems.
United are refusing to confirm any official interest in Montenegro
- the player fast turning out to be the star of this summer's Toulon
tournament.
Huracan confirmed yesterday they had received a 5.5 million
dollar bid from a foreign party, thought to be United.
However, they may not have to sell with two other bids for
different players on the table from Marseille and a Portuguese
club.
Huracan are virtual certainties for relegation and may feel there
is little point in keeping Montenegro who has played most of this
last season with the Argentina Under-20 and Under-21 squads.
Dubbed "The new Maradona", he is blatantly not in the same
class but has shown a marked improvement in his game during the
past couple of months.
Click on pic for more celebration in Manchester!"
Subject: EUFA CL Theme 2 versions Wave + Real Audio
On request here is the theme from Champions League!
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Real Audio eufa_cl_theme.rm 164k 40secs
RAM streaming sound
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Cheers Barry
Click on pic for more celebration in Manchester!"
Subject: PLAYER OF THE SEASON 1998/99
After winning three magnificent trophies more than the
mighty Arsenal, who were the London medias 'Team to take
over the next 10 years' Manchester United's players can
rest at ease this summer.
Well, almost at ease. Even though they all
played their part in winning the Premiership, FA Cup
and European Cup, there will be one nagging doubt at the
backs of their minds as they recline by swimming pools across
the Continent. Did they cancel the Papers and the Milk?
Each player will wonder, looking back, if they did enough to
impress the club's global mass of envious haters. When it
comes to the crunch, were they really at the peak of their
powers? And did they stand out from the crowd in Alex
Ferguson's multi-talented squad? This goes right down from
that piddling cup won in the Nou Camp, right up to the
much-coveted and highly-ranked Manchester Senior Cup,
regarded as the jewel in the United Museum's crown.
Only you can decide whether those players deserve
another night of debauchery on their holiday, in recognition
of their efforts during 1998/99. It's up to you to
attempt the possible and single out just one individual star, the
man in a red shirt (or Goblin-green in the case of Peter Schmeichel)
who deserves our Player of the Season award.
Those of you familiar with the website's polls will know that
a shortlist is drawn up for our Man of the Match and Player
of the Month prizes, and then we give it to the bloke we
reckon should get it anyway. Even though your vote will be
totally disregarded, we asked keen United fan Arsene Wenger to
give us pointers to help make your choice:.....................
David Beckham: Shamed by Sending off in the 1998 World Cup.
Came home to abuse from all opposing fans. Failed to
score a goal for about 3 months. Fathered a child out of
wedlock. Shocking hair-style. Had a not-bad season I
suppose.
Andy Cole: Was left in the cold whilst Solskjaer was paired
with Yorke in September. Made the scandal sheets with a
young lady and his mate in the number 19 shirt. Did not
score for England, or in the two big Finals. Miscued a lucky
winner to seal the title for United. I can see why George
Graham let him go in 1991.
Ryan Giggs: Spent a lot of the season in the physios room.
Had a rare outing for Wales. Oh, and netted a so-so goal in the
FA Cup Semi at Villa Park. But our lads were shattered.
And it did provoke a nasty and outrageous pitch invasion at
the end, that should have had them disqualified.
Roy Keane: Red-carded (rightly) against us. Yellow carded
and missed the biggest game of their campaign. Oh, and
hobbled off in the FA Cup Final. Clearly a disastrous
season for the United skipper. Not a patch on Vieira.
Peter Schmeichel: Scandalously left the club, unlike
my keeper who will be a Gunner until he is 50. Bergkamps
penalty flukily hit him and denied us another trip to
Wembley. I am not a bad loser, honestly! When he held
up that European Cup, I said to Petit, that could have
been you if you hadn't been sent off so often, you French
fool!
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: Clearly not wanted by his manager,
and should come to Highbury and play for a big club.
With his good fortune (eg at the Nou Camp) he could be
our Ian Wright of the new Millenium. Don't know about
4 in 10 minutes, 1 in 90 will do, my Jurassic Back-Four
will do the rest.
Jaap Stam: We made a mug of him at Wembley in the
Charity Shield. I said to Alex, I wouldn't swap him for
Steve Bould! Then he collects all those medals.
Football baffles me sometimes.
Dwight Yorke: Could have signed him myself, but
his smile is not the kind of thing we like at Highbury.
Hardly scored at all in April or May, proving my
judgement to be sound. Must ask him about making smutty
videos though, I may have a few ideas for the coming months.......
You'll only get one chance to pick your Player of the
Season so please, vote carefully! The polls can be found
throughout someone else's site from today.
Click on pic for more celebration in Manchester!"
Subject: Keane battle
By Peter Ferguson
Roy Keane is ready to drive a bargain as hard as one of his tackles in his
contract talks at Manchester United.
While United would like the football world to think the fiery Republic of
Ireland midfielder is on the verge of agreeing a new deal, Soccernet
understands there has been just one meeting between the sides. His agent,
Michael Kennedy, said last night: 'There is a long way to go.'
That will be a sobering thought for those fresh - or otherwise - from
celebrating the mother of all seasons.
Old Trafford might still be basking in the warm glow of an historic Treble,
crowned by the European Cup triumph in Barcelona.
But Keane's absence from the heart of the team in the 2-1 victory over
Bayern Munich, in a display pedestrian until the last two magical minutes,
coldly highlighted his immense value to the club.
Whether or not that value stretches to the £2million-a- year which United's
inspirational captain is seeking in order to sign a contract that would tie
him to Old Trafford for his peak years is another matter.
It is unthinkable that United, having become the most successful club in
the world as well as the richest, could allow their skipper to jump ship,
as he will be eligible to do in a year under the Bosman ruling.
Yet, the money men who pull the purse strings at the grand old club will
have blinked and pondered at the notion that Lazio are willing to shell out
£20m for one player, colossus or not.
United once turned down bids of £15m for the still-emerging Ryan Giggs but,
since then, the corporate grip has tightened as a result of the club's
Stock Market flotation back in 1991.
Now the Italians are looking hard at the player who, above all others,
makes United tick and cash has become almost as important - some would
claim more important - as success on Old Trafford's field of dreams.
United manager Alex Ferguson, who correctly earmarked Keane as Bryan
Robson's natural successor, would choke on his holiday soft drinks in the
south of France at the thought of losing Keane.
But his 26-year-old captain, United's then-record signing at £3.75m from
Nottingham Forest in 1993, knows his own worth. He rejected far better
terms from Blackburn to join United but by the same token became the club's
first £1m-a-year earner and believes he can now command £40,000 a week at
the peak of his powers.
United's newly-knighted manager, with a lucrative deal of his own to take
him to retirement, well knows that Keane's demands will raise eyebrows and
purse lips among the plc directors, who fear a queue would form should they
disturb the balance of pay scales.
But Keane's loss would be such a body-blow that Ferguson will back him to
the hilt for a compromise £10,000-a-week rise on his £25,000-a-week wages
in return for his leadership and drive on the pitch.
Ferguson, who could hardly contemplate trying to replace Keane adequately,
has insisted: 'Roy will be staying at United. Negotiations have almost
reached a settlement and I'm confident a new contract will be sorted out in
the next couple of weeks.'
But Kennedy and United's chief negotiator, lawyer and Old Trafford plc
director Maurice Watkins, have only just begun the delicate process of
deciding Keane's future. Talks continue this week and Kennedy said: 'It's
Roy's wish to stay at United if at all possible. We all look forward to a
fruitful conclusion.'
As for Ferguson, Labour councillors in Glasgow yesterday agreed to offer
him the freedom of his native city.
Charles Gordon, leader of the council, said: 'The move recognises one of
the great football managers in Europe. We are proud to honour him in Glasgow.
'He is someone of considerable stature, who has made a contribution to the
world.'
The last to be awarded the freedom of the city was Nelson Mandela.
Ferguson, 57, was born in the district of Govan. In March, he was awarded
the freedom of Aberdeen, who he led to a European Cup-winners' Cup triumph.
Click on pic for more celebration in Manchester!"
Subject: OFFICIAL EXPANSION
> hi. my name's philip haigh and i get your mufc newsletter everyday.
> anywayz...i was just wondering if you happen to know when construction on
> Old Trafford is due to begin? Isn't it sometime this summer? Is there a
> picture or 3D graphic design of what the stadium will eventually look like
> when finished? if so, could you please tell me where i could set my eyes
> on it.
Construction has already begun! I don't know of a picture of the finished stadium
though. I enclose the official announcment from last year........
OFFICIAL EXPANSION PRESS RELEASE
Monday, September 07, 1998 09:51
Manchester United have announced plans that would
see Old Trafford expanded, and become a 67,400 seater
stadium. This would see Old Trafford become the biggest
club stadium in Britain by some way. Below is the
official press statement.
"Manchester United announces that it has today submitted an application for
planning permission to Trafford Metropolitan Council to
extend the stadium at Old Trafford. Manchester United has
sold out every home game in recent years and the proposal
will result in an increase in capacity of 12,400 seats from
the present figure of 55,000 to 67,400.
It is planned to extend the East and West Stands of the
stadium to provide this additional seating. The board of
Manchester United currently anticipates that should the
requisite approval of shareholders be obtained at the
Annual General Meeting in November and planning consent
be obtained before the end of the year, work would
commence to the East Stand in May 1999, following the
end of the 1998/99 season. The West Stand programme of
works would begin at the end of the 1999/2000 season,
and be finished for the start of the 2001/02 season. The
construction work is being planned to ensure that
disruption is minimised and that the existing stadium
capacity will not be reduced during the timespan of the
project.
In addition to the increase in seating capacity, the East
Stand extension will include offices, allowing the Company
to bring its administration functions together in one
location, and a new Megastore with a sales area of 1,280
sq.m.(13,800 sq.ft.). This will replace the existing
Megastore, Superstore and Match day store which have a
combined sales area of 758 sq.m.(8,160 sq.ft.).
The directors of Manchester United estimate that the cost
of the expansion outlined above will amount to
approximately £30 million. It is the board's intention to
finance the project from its own resources and from
existing bank facilities."
Click on pic for more celebration in Manchester!"
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