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Date: Fri Jan 15 09:39:21 GMT+00:00 1999
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. FERGUSON WAITS ON SCHMEICHEL
2. FERGIE TO SWOOP FOR £6M KEEPER
3. Schmeichel still No.1 with Denmark coach
4. Harsh words in dressing room.....admits Keane
5. Article from an Irish Daily......Martin Edwards
6. Thoughts on Capt Keano
7. Club or Country?
8. FERGUSON KEEN ON ROY STAYING
9. Cruyff back at Nou Camp for all-star match
10. United Unusual Event Quiz -Answers
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Daily RED Trivia Fri 15th January 1999:
15/1/1898: Newton Heath beat Blackpool 4-0 at Bank Street in a Division 2 game
watched by 4,000. Boyd 2, Cartwright and Cassidy scored the goals. Team was:
Barrett, H.Erentz, F.Erentz, Draycott, McNaught, Cartwright, Bryant, Collinson,
Boyd, Cassidy, Smith.
1938: Tony Hawksworth born in Sheffield. Goalkeeper in the FA Youth Cup winning
sides between 1954-56, Hawksworth made his solitary senior appearance at Blackpool
in October 1956, a 2-2 draw, in a season United were First Division Champions..
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Barry Daily Comment:
...Leicester game is being shown in Norway, it is on paid TV Canal+!
Nice peice of news: Irwin set for new deal ««
Manchester United defender Denis Irwin is set to sign a new two-year deal
with the club.
The 33-year-old is out of contract at the end of the season but manager
Alex Ferguson is keen to see the Republic of Ireland international extend
his seven-year spell at Old Trafford.
Despite the emergence of such talented youngsters as Wes Brown and the
Neville brothers Irwin has remained a vital part of United's quest for
honours. And Fergie said: "Denis is still an important member of the squad.
I have had a chat with him about his future and hope things will get sorted
soon."
Survey #33: Week of Jan 10
Should UNITED make an offer for Zidane?
Question now open: http://www.red11.org/miva/survey.mv
Previous News:
http://www.iol.ie/~redcafe/kidd.htm
Brian Kidd Press conference, pic, real audio
http://www.red11.org/mufc/news/schmeichel.htm
Peter Schmeichel's last Season at United!
Next games:
ALL Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
16/1 Leicester (A) 15.00
24/1 Liverpool (H) 12.00 Sky Sports FA CUP 4th rnd
31/1 Charlton (A) 15.00 UK
UNITED Stats v All teams:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079
08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174
14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198
21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475
29/11/98 Leeds Home W 3-2 2 55,172
05/12/98 Aston Villa Away D 1-1 2 39,241
12/12/98 Tottenham Hotspur Away D 2-2 1 36,079
16/12/98 Chelsea Home D 1-1 2 55,159
19/12/98 Middlebrough Home L 2-3 3 55,152
26/12/98 Notts Forest Home W 3-0 3 55,216
29/12/98 Chelsea Away D 0-0 3 34,741
10/01/99 West Ham United Home W 4-1 3 55,180
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Champions League:
Group D P W D L F A Pts
Bayern Munich 6 3 2 1 9 6 11
Man United 6 2 4 0 20 11 10
Barcelona 6 2 2 2 11 9 8
Brondby 6 1 0 5 4 18 3
Dec 9 Brøndby 0-2 Barcelona
Dec 9 Man Utd 1-1 Bayern Munich
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CHAMPIONS' LEAGUE QUARTER-FINAL DRAW
Manchester Utd v Inter Milan
Real Madrid v Dynamo Kiev
Juventus v Olympiakos
Bayern Munich v Kaiserslautern
Ties to be played on March 3 and 17
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Subject: FERGUSON WAITS ON SCHMEICHEL
Alex Ferguson will decide later whether goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel returns
for Manchester United's trip to Leicester on Saturday or continues his
mid-season break.
Schmeichel was back in training on Thursday morning after spending last
week in Barbados and Ferguson says he will wait to see how the Dane reacts
before making a decision.
Last weekend Raimond van der Gouw took over in the 4-1 win over West Ham
and could keep his place.
There could be changes elsewhere even though United have won their last two
games.
Both victories have come without England stars David Beckham and Gary
Neville who were also rested but they are ready to return along with Paul
Scholes and Ronny Johnsen.
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Subject: FERGIE TO SWOOP FOR £6M KEEPER
By Mirror Sport Staff
Alex Ferguson is poised to make a £6million move to sign Argentinian
international keeper Carlos Roa.
The Manchester United manager has decided that the South American star of
Real Mallorca's shock bid for the Spanish title is the man for the big job
of replacing Peter Schmeichel.
Ferguson was impressed with Roa in the World Cup finals when he became a
national hero for saving David Batty's penalty and putting England out of
the competition.
United's scouts have been camped out at Mallorca's matches for the past
couple of months since Schmeichel announced his retirement and every report
on Roa has been good.
Ferguson's brother Martin, the club's chief European scout, saw Roa in top
form as Mallorca beat Real Madrid at the weekend to continue their
challenge for the championship. Contact has now been made with Roa's agents
and with the Spanish club about a summer move for the 28-year-old.
Mallorca will not sell now - and United are willing to wait - as they have
the chance of winning domestic honours and the European Cup-Winners' Cup.
They are in the last eight with Chelsea.
However, a deal should go through in the summer. Roa would need to apply
for a work permit, but as Argentina's regular number one that is no problem.
Roa is big, brave and athletic. His age is ideal for a goalkeeper and he
would play his peak years at Old Trafford.
The only drawback is that he speaks little English.
News that Roa is United's choice will also boost Schmeichel.
His form dipped so dramatically that Ferguson thought about signing a new
keeper sooner.
But now Schmeichel should have a clear run as first choice for the rest of
the season and the chance to end his Old Trafford career on a high note.
Denis Irwin will be offered a new two-year contract to end his worries
about his future at Old Trafford. The 33-year-old defender's current deal
runs out in the summer.
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Subject: Schmeichel still No.1 with Denmark coach
Friday, January 15, 1999
Peter Schmeichel has been assured he will remain Denmark's No.1 goalkeeper
for at least the next two years.
Indeed, providing he retains his fitness and work ethic, the 35-year-old
has been given hope that he may lead his country towards the 2002 World Cup.
In what will be a massive boost to the his self-esteem in his final season
with Manchester United, Denmark coach Bo Johansson insists the player's
inconsistent form has not affected his international standing.
Schmeichel has been told he will start next month's friendly against
Croatia, despite the claim for recognition by
Sunderland's 22-year-old Thomas Sorensen, seen by the coach as an eventual
replacement. Johansson said: 'I know that Peter has had a few problems this
season but I think that is mainly because he has been coming to terms with
his decision to leave United.
'But he is still my No.1 choice as goalkeeper and he will remain so for
some time to come.
'Sorensen is growing in stature and experience. He is playing with the club
that leads Division One and is doing so in front of 40,000 crowds. That
will be good for his temperament.
'For now, however, I will stick with Peter. He is a player with such a huge
personality and that can be good for any team. I see him as my main choice
all the way to through the European Championship qualifying games, and
maybe longer.'
Raimond van der Gouw replaced Schmeichel in Sunday's victory over West Ham
and United boss Alex Ferguson has still to decide if the Dane, who returns
from a break in Barbados, will play tomorrow at Leicester. Jaap Stam may be
the next player to be given a rest, having had little time to recover from
his World Cup exertions last summer.
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Subject: Harsh words in dressing room.....admits Keane
Thursday, January 14, 1999
Roy Keane has revealed that it needed dressing-room rumbles to re-ignite
Manchester United's Premiership title campaign.
The Old Trafford skipper, whose own contract dispute has been pushed to one
side as United turn the heat on pace setters Chelsea and Aston Villa, says
a no-holds-barred inquest behind closed doors wakened the club from a
mid-season slumber.
At the height of the worrying siesta came a shock home defeat by
Middlesbrough. Since then, three wins out of four, including revenge in the
FA Cup over Boro, have indicated that Alex Ferguson's side are back in
business.
It has all come about as a result of some frank exchanges among millionaire
performers who, it seemed, had worryingly slid into the comfort zone.
Keane disclosed: 'The first result against Middlesbrough was a disaster for
the players. 'We're our own biggest critics and we don't need anyone else
to point out the problems. 'OK, the Press have a job to do and the fans let
us know how they feel when we do badly, but we don't hide away from facts
and we knew how bad we had been.
'We tell each other and I believe we would not have been so successful over
the last few years if we weren't honest in the dressing room.'
The inspirational Republic of Ireland midfielder also confirmed that
manager Ferguson has not been slow in adding his own verbal assault on
players he felt had been under-performing.
'We had been a bit lethargic and the manager told us he wanted things to
get back to normal. He isn't slow to remind us,' said Keane. 'We've all had
a chat and it was about trying to cut out the mistakes. We had been poor
compared to our normal high standards.
'Maybe some of us weren't going at it the way we should. We know we have to
put in performances like the one against West Ham on Sunday every week. It
might be impossible to play at 90mph all the time, but we had definitely
slowed down. We're better playing at a higher pace. Now we seem to be at
high tempo again.'
United have quietly slipped into gear, illustrated by the 4-1 thumping of
West Ham, and are now just two points behind Chelsea and Villa.
They are also the bookies' favourites to wrest back the title from Arsenal
and Keane said: 'You could have got away with a lot of our poorer
performances at lesser clubs, but we're up there to be shot at.
'There is definitely another championship within this team. It has been
well-documented that it will be the lowest points total for a team which
wins the Premiership title because the other sides are getting better.
'We have a team capable of winning the championship - maybe one which can
keep doing it for the next four or five years - but you have to be able to
prove that, week in week out.'
The Old Trafford squad also have to live with the constant speculation over
new players coming to the club and Keane said: 'The boss has added one or
two players already this season and he's looking again. It keeps everyone
on their toes and proves the club is in good hands.' On Ferguson's rotation
policy - keeper Peter Schmeichel has recently been given permission to sun
himself in Barbados - Keane joked: 'I don't think the manager would trust
me to take a few days off.
'Seriously, it's up to the individual player. I have played in a World Cup
and you can eventually reach a bit of a low without a rest.
'The only way you can judge the manager's decision over this is at the end
of the season. If we have one or two trophies, then he can turn around and
say it was worth it. I think a lot was made of the Schmeichel situation
because he was in the Caribbean. If he had gone back to Denmark there
wouldn't have been so much fuss.
'Personally, I wouldn't want to miss any games.'
Keane also wants his future sorted out and, as reported in Sportsmail, is
looking for a new contract worth £40,000 a week. United insist they are
hoping to talk with Keane in the summer.
United are likely to allow Jordi Cruyff to join Spanish title contenders
Celta Vigo on loan until the end of the season, providing they can recall
the forward if they run into serious injury or suspension problems.
Cruyff's first-team opportunities have been limited at Old Trafford this
season.
Teddy Sheringham is likely to be out for two to three weeks after picking
up a knee injury, the latest setback for the former Spurs striker whose
recent back problem hampered his efforts to win back a regular place in the
side.
Preston boss Dave Moyes is still thinking over an offer to become
Ferguson's No.2. Moyes is the United manager's choice to replace Brian Kidd
but he has asked for time to consider the new job.
He is tempted but also feels a sense of loyalty to Preston, who gave him
the opportunity a year ago to step into management.
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Subject: Article from an Irish Daily......Martin Edwards
MANCHESTER UTD Chairman Martin Edwards is still top man at Old Trafford
more by good luck than good management.
Ten years ago he was about to sell out to Michael Knighton for a mere
£8m. Today Manchester Utd are worth £648m, with Edward's share of the
divvy valued at about £100m.
It is probable if the shining Knighton had been able to come up with the
lolly, he would be rolling in it at Old Trafford now, instead of
Chairman Martin.
Such a scenario should be kept in mind when one considers the latest
bout of contract stalling which has beset the Red Devils.
Edwards believes that it is better to sort out Roy Keane's contract
during the summer when the season is over rather than upset the Cork ace
as he goes about his midfield business. He obviously feels the same
about Denis Irwin who now is officially a free agent and free to talk to
other clubs.
And perhaps even more worrying for Man Utd fans is the fact that he is
also waiting for the recess before speaking to Alex Ferguson. Sounds a
bit too much of a stand-off to me for comfort.
Instead of allowing Keane the chance to concentrate on his game, the
fact that he has only 18 months to run means he hasn't been out of the
headlines at all this week. Not the best way to have your captain
gearing himself up for a Premiership, FA and European Cup charge.
And quiet man Irwin, if he were a different type, could already have
secured a lucrative deal away from the Theatre of Dreams.
I don't think Fergie can be too happy either given that it was his
managerial expertise which has practically given United the chance to
print money following their success.
KL
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Subject: Thoughts on Capt Keano
No one can doubt the affect a fit again Keano has had on the side this
season. He himself must be relieved that the recovery from injury has been
complete. The wages mentioned may be some tabloid scaremongering, but is
there anyone who would begrudge him?
Unfortunately he has to put up with the complete arse that passes for our
chairman. Just cast your minds back a few weeks to the Kiddo affair.
Another valued employee (as far as Fergie and us are concerned) is allowed
to go thanks to the inability to give the person his true worth, whilst the
fat cats in the boardroom continue to hoover up cash generated by their
success . Remember, Kiddo said no increase in wages was mentioned in the
"new deal" Fartin claims to have offered him. By the way, I still eagerly
scan the obituary columns to no avail, Martin!
Keano is obviously well advised, and is no doubt been made aware of the
cash cow that the Plc has become.Who can blame him for wanting to get
things sorted out ASAP. The wage structure is bound to come under pressure
soon - as the traditional close season Batistuta/Zidane/Uncle Tom Cobbly
rumours testify.
So what bolloxs does Fartin come out with - something to do with not
wanting to detract from the pursuit of honours - strange but I thought the
pursuit of honours started in August not January!
Isn't the more logical reason is that he is waiting until the BSkyB bid is
sorted out, than he can blame someone else if it all goes pear shaped with
Roy. I wonder if Mark "Dennis" Booth has been "spoken to out of courtesy"
again. Lets all hope that we can wave Booth and Edwards goodbye in March -
the best Birthday pressie I will have had in a long time!
Then, to calm things down a bit, Martin then decides to use Sir Robert as
some sort of human shield, getting him to put out a statement that will
appease the masses, stating that it will all be alright with Roy's
contract. Devious or what?
Mark Southee
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Subject: Club or Country?
It is always Club first second and last country does not enter the equation
What is a nation anyway but a collection of individuals that live in one
place?
When it comes to football we look at the United diaspora and it
stretches beyond the borders of 'Merry England', a quick read of this
list on a daily basis shows that.
We look at the team and some of the greatest players to play for our
Club have been from outside England, the jingoism that is displayed by
England supporters is only surpassed by their myopic view of what a
Scot, Alex Ferguson, and a Frenchman, Eric Cantona have done for the
finest crop of young talent England fans have had the privilige of
paying to watch. If United players go the way of others in the game and
demand higher and higher wages, paid for by ordinary punters, then it
should be written into their contracts that they only play for MUFC
whilst seeing out that contract. A twenty thousand pound salary roughly
equates to a pound a head at the gate (current gate receipts assumed to
be close to one million pounds per game), with a squad system of up to
twenty players demanding parity that would equate to a doubling of gate
prices.
The main problem with football is that those at the top, running the
game have set the tone; why should any player settle for less than the
sort of packages that some Directors are going to walk away with? Any
one of us would gladly give of our time for free to help run MUFC, we
have many talented fans in our number who have more experience in
business than the 'daddy's boy made good' who was pushed onto the Board,
against his wishes, in his early twenties.
Before anyone retorts that the salary of Chief Exec. is commensurate
with the position held just ponder this; how does Alex Ferguson command
the respect of his staff when he is paid less than a third of what is
rumoured to be being demanded by the top stars? The arguement does not
stand up to scrutiny, greed and avarice is sending the game into a tail
spin that, unless arrested, will see the game destroyed inside a couple
of years as Baseball and Basketball in the states will bear witness.
Murdoch has grasped the idea that Clubs are bigger than countries with
his response to Sepp Blatter's comments on a two year World Cup by
agreeing but adding, that it should be for clubs not countries. Sharp
businessman he maybe but he cares not for the long term future of the
game. Too much televised sport will kill the live event itself in the
end, the amount of live football on the TV should be strictly rationed.
Heaven forbid if life is ever found on Mars 'cos Rupe will be fighting
mission control and
elbowing aside John Glen to be the first up there, but not to offer
'Greetings from planet earth', but the first Pay TV contract for the
Inter-Planetary Championship.
There are those who live far away from OT who would no doubt jealously
defend their access to 'Live matches from Old Trafford' but the real
Reds amongst their number will recognise that if this is at the cost of
the game of football itself then it is too high a price to pay. In
Saudia Arabia, USA or Singapore you can, if you wish, duck the result of
the game and watch the game broadcast 'as live' after the event. Don't
let the game, built with fans money, be dictated to by a man who sold
his birthright to
gain a commercial advantage. Rupert Murdoch does not have country as a
consideration in his list of priorities and neither should we! Often,
our proud retort is that Reds will put Club above all else, well let's
be radical in our thoughts, put live football above personal desire to
see as much televised live football as possible. - 'Save the Game United
for United'
Club first, second and last
Andy Walsh
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Subject: FERGUSON KEEN ON ROY STAYING
By David Anderson, PA Sport
Alex Ferguson is confident skipper Roy Keane will still be at Manchester
United well into the new millennium.
The United boss is playing down reports that Keane will leave Old Trafford
if he is not offered a new contract worth £40,000 a week, which would smash
the club's carefully-controlled wages structure.
The Republic of Ireland midfielder's current deal expires in the summer of
2000 and Ferguson is adamant that Keane does not want to leave the club.
United chairman Martin Edwards claims contract talks will start at the end
of the season with Keane and his solicitor Michael Kennedy and Ferguson is
optimistic they can thrash out a new deal.
"Basically Roy wants to stay here," said Ferguson. "He's our captain and
he's a fantastic player.
"The club will be taking steps to keep him - don't worry about that."
Ferguson is also confident Denis Irwin will soon put pen to paper on a new
agreement.
The 33-year-old defender's present one-year contract runs out in the summer
and Ferguson is keen to keep him at Old Trafford.
United have reportedly offered Irwin, who has been at the club since 1990,
a two-year deal which would entitle him to a lucrative testimonial.
"We've put an offer to Denis and we hope he accepts because we want him
here," Ferguson said on ClubCall.
"Good servants and good players are hard to come by and he has been both."
Ferguson revealed that Jordi Cruyff's proposed loan move to Celta Vigo may
not be completed by tomorrow's Spanish mid-season transfer deadline.
The UEFA Cup quarter-finalists want to take the Dutch international
forward, who is out of the first-team picture at United, for the rest of
the season.
But Ferguson claimed Vigo had yet to contact United about Cruyff.
"What we're seeing in the papers is a bit fanciful at the moment because
they have not even been in touch with us yet," he said. "That may change in
the next week or so."
Ferguson also dismissed continuing reports that he has asked Preston boss
David Moyes to become his new right-hand man.
He insists he has not approached anyone and that he has not decided on who
should succeed Brian Kidd as assistant manager.
"I've not approached anyone and I've not given it a great deal of thought,"
he said.
"I've looked at one or two names and I've looked at one or two ways of
progressing the club, but I've not done anything about it."
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Subject: Cruyff back at Nou Camp for all-star match
Cruyff back at Nou Camp for all-star match
BARCELONA, Spain, Jan 14 - Former Barcelona coach Johan Cruyff will return
to the Nou Camp on January 27 to co-manage a Spanish league selection in an
anti-drugs game against his former club.
Cruyff will take joint responsibility for the Spanish league selection
along with Jose Antonio Camacho, the current national team coach.
The 45-strong all-star squad, announced on Thursday, includes five players
each from Brazil and Argentina.
MORE: BREAKING NEWS - Thursday 14 January 1999
TIME RUNNING OUT FOR CRUYFF DEAL
Celta Vigo face a battle against the clock to complete Jordi Cruyff's loan
signing from Manchester United.
Vigo must finalise the agreement with United to take Cruyff until the end
of the season by tomorrow, which is when the Spanish mid-season transfer
window closes.
The deadline is fast approaching and a United spokeswoman said: "Nothing
has happened yet."
The Dutch international forward has struggled to make an impact at Old
Trafford following his 1996 move from Barcelona, mainly because of
injuries, and he is keen to play regular first-team football with the UEFA
Cup quarter-finalists.
United boss Alex Ferguson is willing to let Cruyff go but only if he has a
recall clause inserted into the deal with Vigo.
Ferguson is determined to keep his vast squad together for their triple
assault on honours this season.
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Subject: United Unusual Event Quiz -Answers
(1) The game abandoned in the Manchester rain was against
Manchester City at Maine Road on Aug 27 1960. The score was 2-2
at the time, with Uniteds goals from Dennis Viollet and Alex Dawson.
Denis Law scored one of the Blues goals. 50,000 floated home.
I reckon this is the last abandoned competetive match involving the
Reds.
(2) The 'unfinished' game was of course the Manchester City game
at Old Trafford on April 27th 1974, watched by 56,996. Despite
the myth, the Lawman's goal did not doom us to relegation - results
elsewhere did. A pitch invasion on 86 minutes left the scoreline 0-1.
This game apparently got 25 mentions in the book 'Manchester United
Ruined My Life' - presumably the 5-1 game in 1989 got over 200 (:
(3) The game in the fog was the Sunderland game at Old Trafford
on November 10 1976. It ended 3-3, with Brian Greenhoff, Gordon
Hill and Stuart Pearson scoring, though none of the 42,685 could
have seen all six goals in the game. I saw about 4 of them.
Anyone else remember this match? Someone offered the 7-2
drubbing of Newcastle in the League Cup in the same year but
the mist that night was not as bad as the fog mentioned here.
(4) The game seen in a 'dim light'. We go back to Sep 26 1979 and
a League Cup game against Norwich City at Carrow Road. Norwich
were proudly showing off their new stand (old one demolished by
Red Army in 1976) and new floodlighting too. On arrival it appeared
that half the lighting was on (similar to when half the lights were
on before the West Ham game on Sunday) and we assumed that
when the players came out we would get the rest switched on.
Well, the game was played in what we thought was inadequate
lighting, Norwich stuffed us 4-1 and Sammy McIlroy was our
scorer watched by 18,312.
Paul Hinson (email p.l.hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk)
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