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Date: Sat Oct 31 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. Preview v Everton ««
2. A cold, wet night in the Worthington Cup by Our Salford Lass
3. Getting soaked 3 times, what fun! Personal Match Report
4. COOKE JOINS WREXHAM
5. DARK SIDE OF THE MOON: THE MAN UTD MUSEUM
6. United stars miss night at the Palace
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Daily RED Trivia Sat 31st October:
31/10/1965: Denis Irwin was born in Cork. Signed from Oldham Athletic for £625,000
the unflappable Full-back made his debut against Coventry City in August 1990.
Irwin won Premiership medals in 1993, 1994, 1996 and 1997, FA Cup Winners
medals in 1994 and 1996, a European Cup Winners Cup medal in 1991 and a League
Cup Winners medal in 1992. He has made 374 appearances for United (25 goals),
and won more than 40 caps for the Republic of Ireland, playing in the World Cup
Finals in 1994.
31/10/1981: United beat Notts County 2-1 at Old Trafford with goals from Garry Birtles
and Remi Moses in a Division 1 game watched by 45,928. Team was: Bailey,
Gidman, Albiston, Wilkins, Duxbury, Buchan, Robson (Macari), Birtles, Stapleton,
Moses, Coppell.
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Barry Daily Comment:
Jonathan Greening
DOB 2nd Jan 1979 Born Scarborough
Ht 6'0
Wt 11st 3lbs
York City debut Div2 22/03/97 Bournemouth (a) Sub
Lge apps 5+15 2 gls
Joined United 24 Mar 98 for £750,000
Debut Worthington Cup 28/10/98 Bury (h)
These stats from
Paul Hinson (email p.l.hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk)
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Next 4 games:
Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
TODAY 31/10 Everton (A) PL
Wed 4/11 Brondby (H) CL 19.45
Sun 8/11 Newcastle (H) PL
Wed 11/11 Nott Forest (H) LC
Sat 14/11 Blackburn (H) PL
UNITED Stats v Everton:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vseverton.htm
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
Champions league: 21/10
Brondby 2-6 Man Utd
Bayern 1-0 Barcelona
Table as at 21/10:
GROUP D P W D L GF GA Pts
ManUnited 3 1 2 0 11 7 5 Next "CL" Match
BMünchen 3 1 1 1 4 5 4 Man Utd v Brondby OT 4/11
Barcelona 3 1 1 1 5 4 4
Brøndby 3 1 0 2 2 9 3
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Subject: Preview v Everton ««
Giggs: Expected comeback
United boss Alex Ferguson is set to ring the changes for Saturday's trip to
Goodison Park.
Ferguson followed his traditional path of fielding fringe and youth players
for Wednesday's Worthington Cup clash against Bury.
Denis Irwin could step in for Phil Neville after recovering from knee
ligament damage and, despite reports to the contrary, Ryan Giggs is
expected to shake off a knee injury although Jesper Blomqvist is on
stand-by to deputise.
Peter Schmeichel is set to take over from understudy Raimond van der Gouw
despite intensive treatment for a stomach muscle strain, while Wednesday's
back four of Michael Clegg, Henning Berg, David May and John Curtis is
likely to be replaced by Jaap Stam, Wesley Brown, Gary Neville and Denis
Irwin.
David Beckham, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs look set to replace
Mark Wilson, Phil Neville, Phil Mulryne and Jordi Cruyff.
Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole will resume their already-promising strike
partnership up front.
Team (from):
Schmeichel, Brown, Stam, G Neville, P Neville, Irwin, Beckham, Keane,
Scholes, Giggs, Blomqvist, Cole, Yorke, Solskjaer, Cruyff, May, Berg, van
der Gouw.
Danny Cadamarteri has emerged as favourite to take over from the suspended
Don Hutchison when Everton manager Walter Smith reveals his starting
line-up for the visit of Manchester United.
Tony Grant had appeared to be in line for the midfield berth but it seems
that Smith is considering starting with just a three man midfield and
handing Cadamarteri a free role behind Ferguson and Bakayoko.
Much will depend on whether the Ivory Coast striker can shake off the ankle
injury he picked up at the Riverside Stadium this week.
The Blues are set to restore all their available regulars to the starting
line up which will mean the return of Thomas Myrhe in goal, Dave Watson
back at the heart of the defence with John Collins and Michael Ball in
midfield.
There is a slight doubt over Olivier Dacourt, who picked up a knock on his
ankle in midweek, but he has said he is expecting to be fit for the match.
The news is not so good concerning Mitch Ward who is set for at least two
weeks on the sidelines with an ankle injury.
Everton are unbeaten in their last ten matches and have kept a clean sheet
in five of them but will certainly be fully tested tomorrow with United now
looking as though they have regained top form after an indifferent start by
their own standards.
Zidane link resurfaces ««
Top Spanish football newspaper 'El Mundo' has linked Manchester United with
Juventus ace Zinedine Zidane.
The link follows Zidane's declaration that he will not be signing a new
contract with the defending Serie-A champions.
Zidane, a World Cup winner with France, is, however, already tied to a
lengthy contract and the fact that the highly-rated midfielder has stressed
his desire to leave before that expires would suggest that United, or any
other interested party, may have to break the bank to acquire his services.
Cooke seals Wrexham switch ««
Terry Cooke is ready to pick up the pieces of his stop-start career by
going on loan to Second Division Wrexham.
Cooke has just returned to full fitness following a cruciate ligament
operation last year and is anxious to play regular first-team football once
again after being on the fringe of United's first-team two seasons.
Birmingham-born Cooke is a speedy winger who made his Premiership debut
against Bolton in September 1995.
His only senior goal was in the 3-1 second-round second-leg win over York
City in the Coca Cola Cup, having also taken part in the 3-0 first-leg
defeat at Old Trafford.
Cooke has joined Wrexham for a month having had spells with Sunderland and
Birmingham City before his injury setback.
Academy sides in action ««
United's Premiership Academy sides are in action this weekend with a home
double bill against Everton.
The rampaging Reds Under-17 side is look for its seventh successive win
when they play at Littleton Road.
The Under-19's are playing at The Cliff and come up against opponents going
well.
But United are looking for their fourth successive win after beating
Wimbledon, Fulham and Manchester City.
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From: Pat Jennings
Subject: - Getting soaked 3 times, what fun! Personal Match Report
After getting to OT yesterday 3 hours 15 minutes before kick off, you'd
think it strange that I wouldn't get in on time to actually see it, but
there you go.
As I drove past the forecourt at 4:45 I saw a group of school kids who'd
probably been on a trip the Museum and Stadium. On of them had a red
shirt on with No. 10 on the back, Sheringham you may think. Wrong, owen
it said! "You scouse bastard, You scouse bastard!!" I shouted at him, as
he was much smaller than me;-))
Anyway, I went and parked my car (and then went looking for him :-)) and
went to the Megastore for the Eric/Munich video for Barry Leeming and a
shirt for my nephew who wasn't with me for a change. After having an
argument with the sales assistant over a free football that I thought I
should've had, I made my way back to my car to put my purchases in it.
Cue first downpour of the day and me getting soaked to the skin. With my
megastore bag locked safely in the car I was now able again to
(mentally) take the piss out of anyone else I saw with one as I walked
back to the ground. I'd changed my (non waterproof) jacket for another
(water absorbent) one whilst at the car, but I needn't have bothered as
the rain continued as I legged it round to the Throstles to meet Linda
et al.
By the time I got there it had stopped raining and after a few beers and
a chat we started to make our way to the ground.
Cue second downpour as the heavens opened whilst we walked the 15 miles
back to OT. Myself, Linda, Alan and Ian got drenched not only from above
but by any passing cars, as the puddles on the road were reaching lake
type proportions.
Me and Alan cheered ourselves up by thinking of our impending trip to
Barcelona and the stone cracking sun that we'd have over there. When we
eventually reached the ground we looked like a bunch of drowned rats,
Alan promptly squeezed about 3 gallons of water out of his infamous
yellow jacket.
My brother was stuck in traffic and I had his ticket in my pocket
(reason for missed kick off), but as the teams were being announced we
found ourselves at the W10 entrance at the end of a long queue.
After moving to the next one which suddenly opened, we managed to get
straight in, Alan was doing an impression of my 9 year old nephew and
his boyish good looks got him into the ground with a juniors ticket.
Although we were now in the upper stand instead of the lower, the
steward told us to go down the aisle in front, right down to the bottom
and our seats were on the right. We duly did as directed and annoyingly
everyone had to stand up and let us by. "scuse me, excuse me, scuse me
mate etc.". "Typical" I said, we're right in the middle of the row. But
as we got further along still moving everyone, I still couldn't see the
seats. "scuse me, excuse me, scuse me mate" we carried on, right to the
other end of the block and then pissed ourselves as we had the first 2
seats in the next block after all!!
We sat down soaked to the skin and then hoped at least that all this
grief would be worth it........ hardly.
In fact the highlight of the first half was when Alan went to get us
both a coffee. As we were drinking it, one of the Bury players who was
in their private team contest of who can kick the ball into the stand
the farthest, kicked a high swirling shot towards us. As I looked up at
the ball in the air I thought "I bet that b*****ds gonna hit me". Not
wanting to get scolded I decided to try and make a sharp exit but was
blocked in and the ball splattered between me and the bloke next to me.
The rain at times was relentless and being on the second row, you don't
get much cover at all.
Alan went off to warm his hands on the hand dryer in the bogs
(southerner!!) during extra time and we scored. I wish I'd have sent him
in there in the first half!!
As the match came to an end, the rain duly started again and any drying
out that had been managed was soon undone again on the way back to the
car.
For those outside the UK, the weather here for the past week or so has
been none stop, freezing gale force winds and driving rain, it's like
the end of the world as we know it.....
Cheers
Pat Jennings
(c) Not to be Used without Permission of the Author
E-mail: patj@telepad.demon.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:38:43 +0100
From: Richard Kurt
Subject: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON: THE MAN UTD MUSEUM
The Ministry Of Truth?
They'd announced my football club was going to be sold - not just sold, mind
you, but stripped of its independence and tarted off naked to a fiscal
lecher whom I'd always held responsible for the destruction of British
decency. So naturally, I wander off to Old Trafford, half-expecting to see
riot police battling Reds on the forecourt and find…well, nothing. In fact,
the Red Café contains literally nothing: it is utterly deserted, apparently
its normal state, save for half-a-dozen bored waitresses earning dosh for
nowt. (Grant, I've found you a job, mate.) My attention is drawn to the
Museum next door: never been before, might as well give it a whirl. Today's
soundbite, courtesy of the master phrasemeister Walshie, is that United has
just sold its heart and soul and knows the price of everything but the
value of nothing. (Alright, Walshie owes Oscar for this, but good effort all
the same.) Perhaps here, of all locations at Old Trafford, one might find
some residue of that heart and soul in the mementoes of heroes and legends
past; it felt like it could just be the right place to be, today of all
days. Potentially limitless value, for the price of £4.50.
Barely through the door, I bump into Melissa, who's all over the papers that
morning after being active with her spraycan on the forecourt. It's her
first time here too and I instantly know she's here for the same reason as
me - it doesn't need to be said. We shlepp around the displays together,
muttering sotto voce insults at the daytrippers who mooch past, glaze-eyed,
clearly understanding little of what they're seeing. I put my 'serious
historian' hat on and get stuck into the display cases, hoping these
treasures from the seasons of our forefathers will lift my spirits. Instead,
by the end of our tour, I'm seething. Even here, in what should be a kind of
blessed sanctuary - a museum, like a library, is a centre of true
civilisation - the beast that is the modern United squats centre-stage,
pissing and shitting over everything it touches. King Midas In Reverse
indeed, as a local band once sung.
I remember the hype when this 'museum' (sic) was relaunched. It would be a
proper, almost serious temple for true Reds, run independently by a
respected historian and archivist. Appeals went out for material - not just
the usual old boots and caps but political, controversial stuff too. I was
expecting warts 'n' all, the Full Monty: instead, like the last frame of the
film, you get no such thing. The last frame of this tour was a beauty,
though. But first things first. The museum is, I soon realised, a
fantastically accurate parallel to the modern Club. So well did this image
fit, I wondered if a very sophisticated hoax was being pulled. At first
glance, it looks marvellous: state of the art. The display rooms gleam 'n'
glisten, there's a pleasing sense of modernity, space and clever design;
it's like looking at the inside of the stadium. Yet, after a few minutes,
the sterility of it begins to overcome you. It reeks of man-made materials,
it feels oppressively false, and the fucking Muzak warbling across the
speakers drives you demented. Suddenly, you're flashing back to a bad day in
North Tier 3, being blasted by Fane and wondering how the concrete and PVC
box you're squeezed into connects to the Old Trafford you used to know. A
plastic stand for plastic people, some might say. The museum feels about as
solid and permanent as the corner stands at City, actually; it's more like a
travelling circus exhibition that's stopped off here and could be carted
off by some spiv at any moment - just like the Club, as it now transpires.
Looking more closely at the displays, I realise that there's quality gear in
there but it's treated so cack-handedly as to make it seem worthless. Items
are crammed into cases en masse, with maybe a two-line caption on the case,
and are placed too far away from the punter. Look, but don't touch; see, but
don't understand. In a proper museum, every item is fully sourced and
explained; here, they're just dumped in front of you and left to fend for
themselves. Many items, especially letters and contracts, might as well be
invisible. Speaking as someone who's spent a lot of time in archives and
historical centres, it's perhaps the most abysmal waste of material I've
ever seen. 'Never mind the quality - check out the quantity' seems to be the
credo.
At times, this policy is utterly aggravating. You enter one room and in an
unlit neglected alcove, unshielded by glass, is a mass of scarf bales. A
scrappy notice says 'please don't touch these'. Now you and I know what
these are - the scarves left for Sir Matt - but many visitors won't have a
clue and there's nothing there to explain them. Indeed, the state they're in
makes them seem unwanted, contemptible even: what a mess we bloody
supporters left, hey? I remember the emotion invested in the gestures that
threw these scarves into their original positions and feel like screaming at
the museum staff, except that there's none around. Proper museums have
guides on hand to elucidate and educate. Here, they just don't give a fuck.
I suppose this attraction works on very plc principles. Ex-players and fans
have contributed with immense generosity, for no financial reward but merely
for the satisfaction of adding to a United cause. The museum then treats
these gifts cavalierly and charges fellow Reds an extortionate £4.50 for a
tour that deserves about half an hour of your time. The Munich Room is a
particular disappointment - poorly resourced, appallingly lit (I think
they're going for a funereal effect but it just looks like they're too cheap
to buy 100 watt bulbs) and badly positioned. Look very carefully and you'll
find an unbearably poignant little podium bearing Eddie Colman's passport
and watch, rescued from the scene and intensely redolent of 3.04 pm that
February day. It has to take its place in a giant case with loads of other
stuff, of course, and you can't see inside the passport: yet at that moment,
all you want to do is see Eddie's unharmed young face on page 4. Move along
there, people, we gotta increase the footfall…Perhaps that is the reason why
everything is so inaccessible - they just don't want you in there too long.
Because stay long enough, and you'll start finding Orwellian holes all over
the show. Perhaps, behind one of the many doors marked 'Private', you might
find some little Winstonian figure, dropping 'doubleplusungood' bits of
United history into a tube for burning. Michael Knighton, a central figure
in recent United history and the guy who conceived the new museum concept,
can only be found as an en passant mention on someone else's display.
Hooliganism gets five date marks on a tiny time-line; that's it. Club
politics? One HOSTAGE leaflet and one StandUpK flyer amidst a display
stuffed with pieces, the latter not actually mentioning the dread letters
IMUSA at all. That's all folks, move along, nothing to see here,
everything's hunky dory at this Club. And that's official, sonny: it's in
the museum, innit? The laughable Supporters Room (two good items, both
patched 70s denim jackets) has one whole wall full of pictures of United
books, fanzines, mags, records etc. Everyone is up there, just about. But
guess who's been airbrushed out of history? Your friendly soaraway Red
Issue. We're the only fanzine not on the wall, just as our Kurt is the only
well-known author not there and music correspondent Peter Boyle the only Red
recording artist not featured. Paranoid, us? Well, can you blame us? The
museum tells visitors we don't exist. Now lads, that was hardly likely to
get you a good review in itself, was it?
The worst, Room 101 if you like, is fittingly in the basement , the room
where history's dark censory is always done. Here, in a massive chamber,
dozens of interactive screens flicker, promising you access to the 'Official
United History' ™. Every game, every player, every personality, every event:
they're all there for you to read at the touch of the screen, from the
legendary to the most obscure. Except for two people, whose biographies the
screens refuse to link you to and who 'Official United Fans' ™ are not
allowed to know anything about. Step forward Martin and Louis Edwards. On
the very day that Martin was boasting about the 33 years these two butchers
have run our Club, and how that gave him the divine right to sell us all out
like the fuck that he is, it seems that this proud record of stewardship
must be denied to the club's patrons. I wonder why? What could it be about
their tale that the children must not know? Cos what's a little
Revenue-cheating , insider dealing, director-shafting, bimbo-fucking,
fan-exploiting, club-selling, shit-eating cuntery between friends, hey? HEY?
And no, they don't show the 'World In Action' programme on their umpteen
video screens either. But they do have 'Physio With David Fevre' on a loop.
(Crutches available at the exit gate - MU brand, naturally, £39.99…) Oh, and
there's both heart and soul on sale too: 625 mill the pair, I believe. Just
hope the museum doesn't get hold of 'em - might end up stuck underneath a
bale of scarves…
(copyright Richard Kurt/Red Issue 1998.
Kurt's new 'Red Devils' book is published by Prion Books)
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Subject: United stars miss night at the Palace
Friday, October 30, 1998
Manchester United played the Palace party poopers last night when the
England, Scotland and Jamaica World Cup squads met the Queen.
Injured striker Teddy Sheringham turned up for the royal reception but
team-mates Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and David Beckham were absent.
United spokesman Ken Ramsden said: 'It was decided that Teddy should
represent us and the FA were told that. The situation was that because of the
timing of the reception it meant the players would not be arriving back at their
homes until around midnight and it was felt that was too late on a Thursday
night for a match on Saturday. The players also took that view. It was no
reflection on Her Majesty.'
But England skipper Alan Shearer, who flew in from Newcastle, and Liverpool's
Michael Owen were allowed to stay up late.
FA spokesman David Davies said: 'It was left to the clubs to decide who was
coming. Every club was represented and 15 of the 22 players attended.'
Paul Ince, Paul Merson and Gareth Southgate were absent for family reasons,
while Les Ferdinand was said to be having treatment on an injury.
Owen spoke to the Queen about his schooldays. He said: 'She visited my old
school in North Wales in March and met my sister Lesley. She is 15 and a
good netball player. Lesley won't let me forget that she met the Queen before I
did.'
Scotland captain Colin Hendry said: 'It was such a privilege to meet the Queen.
I will never forget it.'
It was a hectic day for Sheringham, who had to fly down by helicopter earlier in
the day to attend a lunch in London organised by the publishers of his
autobiography.
It was a hair-raising trip in high winds and Sheringham arrived ashen-faced at
the Cafe Royal. Then he was told it would not be possible to go straight to
Buckingham Palace - about half-a-mile away - but would have to join the rest of
the England squad at Heathrow 15 miles away.
A taxi left Piccadilly at 4pm and he arrived at the airport an hour later - just in
time to take the coach ride back to Buckingham Palace.
Earlier, Sheringham had told diners that he believed Shearer and Owen made a
good partnership for England. He also claimed the rotation system was here to
stay and that there were too many average Scandinavians in the Premiership.
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Subject: Blair, Menem on the ball over Beckham's red card
LONDON, Oct 29 - Forget the Falklands -- what about David Beckham's red card?
The question of whether the young England soccer player really deserved to be sent
off in a World Cup match against Argentina this June was on the agenda when
Prime Minister Tony Blair and Argentine President Carlos Menem met on Thursday.
Beckham was dismissed after aiming a seemingly innocuous kick at Argentine
captain Diego Simeone, who collapsed dramatically. England, pushed onto the
defensive, held out till extra time but lost on penalties.
Beckham was pilloried by the British tabloid press, but Simeone also came in for a
great deal of criticism in Britain for allegedly overreacting to the foul.
The talks between Blair and Menem, on the first visit by an Argentine leader since
the two countries fought a 1982 war over the Falklands, focused mainly on trade and
bilateral ties.
"They also discussed David Beckham's red card," a Blair spokesman said
tantalisingly, but declined to elaborate.
The soccer-mad Menem sported a badge backing Britain's bid to host the 2006
World Cup during his two hours of talks with Blair, who thanked him for his support.
Menem said on arrival that he wanted if at all possible to see a soccer match this
weekend.
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