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Date: Sat Sep 26 03:18:14 GMT+00:00 1998
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This Issue:
1. Charlie, Charlie, what's the score? by "Our Salford Lass"
2. Carling report
3. Fergie in trouble/ New Keeper?
4. Stam class highlights Liverpool's frailties
5. Cole happy at Old Trafford  Bbc
6. United back on title track after Liverpool win  
7. Teamtalk Cole vows to fight for United place «

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1956: United trounce Anderlecht (Belgium) 10-0 at Maine Road in the European
Cup Preliminary Round 2nd leg watched by 40,000. Dennis Viollet 4, Tommy 
Taylor 3, Billy Whelan 2 and Johnny Berry scored for the Reds as they completed
a 12-0 aggregate win. Team was: Wood, Foulkes, Bryne, Colman, Jones, Edwards,
Berry, Whelan, Taylor, Viollet, Pegg.

1989: Jimmy Delaney died in Lanarkshire. Delaney made his United debut in August
1946 against Grimsby Town and the pacy winger won an FA Cup Winners medal
against Blackpool in 1948. He made 183 appearances between 1946-50, scoring
28 goals. 13 caps for Scotland. Delaney won League Championship medals with
Glasgow Celtic in 1936 and 1938, plus an Irish Cup medal with Derry City.

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*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 24/09/98 ***

Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
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15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
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Subject: Charlie, Charlie, what's the score? by "Our Salford Lass"

Oooh, that feels better!  It's now Friday tea-time and I'm still as high as
a kite from last night.  Games against the scousers always give that extra
tingle to the spine, have the hairs on the back of the neck standing up
just that little bit more to attention and as games against the scousers
go, this one was pretty special.  It had everything - electric atmosphere,
committed players, some fine football and the right result.

There's only one game more likely to bring that extra "frisson" to the
streets of Manchester.  Unfortunately, the blue half of Manchester is
busying itself in the depths of the second division, so, for the time
being, Derbies are a thing of the past.  A game with the scousers is a very
good replacement though, and as I travelled to the pub on the tram, the air
was crackling with expectation.  It was also heavily burdened with beer
fumes as the United lads on the metro entertained the home-bound commuters
with their anti-scouse songs.  Spending time in the pub with Sean and then
walking down to the ground with him later was a delight - he was so excited
and overwhelmed with everything it served as a timely reminder that we
should enjoy what we have whilst we still have it.  

Sir Matt Busby Way was as crowded as ever and the forecourt seemed to have
rather more than its usual number of lads "just hanging about".  Ever
cautious on these occasions, I decided to head straight inside East Lower
and got to my seat to find most of the scousers already in place on the
mantelpiece and no sign of the son-and-heir.  A few minutes later he
appeared, having almost got tangled up with the last of the scousers being
escorted from their coach - a lucky escape he felt!  With only a few
minutes to go, we nervously hopped from foot to foot trying to be positive.
 Unfortunately for me, my place of work has its fair share of scousers and
we had been trying to out-do each other all day -  in pessimism!  We hoped
that our nervousness wouldn't be reflected in another terrible perfomance
on the pitch, as we saw on Sunday.

Just before kick-off, a chorus of "You'll never walk alone" nudged the
United fans into action and from then on we were part of something not
experienced in OT experience very often these days, a brilliant atmosphere!
 The players came out of the tunnel to a roar like that for the Juventus
game and the noise continued throughout the whole 90 minutes.  We sang all
the anti-scouser songs of course, and all the old favourites (United
Calypso, Walking down the Warwick Rd, Forever and Ever etc).  In response
to the scousers singing "You've sold your soul to Murdoch" was another
spine-tingling rendition of "We'll never die".  But the best chanting of
the night was reserved for "Big time Charlie" (thanks Fergie).  At long
last facing Roy Keane (funny how he has been injured so often just before
United games!) he got the welcome he deserves.  Booed virtually every time
he touched the ball he was also entertained with "You used to play for a
big club", "Roy Keane is the governor", "Paul Ince is a scouse bastard" and
a series of "Charlie" chants which culminated (in the last few minutes of
the game) with "Charlie, Charlie, what's the score".

Watching the team walk onto the pitch, it was good to see that Fergie had
gone back to a familiar line-up:  Dwight Yorke up front with Ole, Scholes
back in the team and Giggs back where he plays best, on the left wing.  A
surprise though, was Gary Neville in central defence (although we have seen
him play in this position many times before).  And it was a master stroke.
With Stam commanding the back line like a Sherman tank, Gary was able to
use his speed to cancel out Owen.  In a performance that the MEN tonight
compares to Steve Bruce at his best, Gary Neville led by example.  And the
rest of the team followed.  Whereas at Arsenal, we only had one player who
seemed to remember what shirt he was wearing, last night there were 11
players on that pitch who were prepared to fight to the death for
Manchester United.  It might not have been pretty (although there were one
or two moves that were astonishingly beautiful) but it was a performance of
guts and determination in which every United player played his part.  And
they made the scousers look like the big girls' blouses they are!
(Apologies for insulting any big girls' blouses who are reading this!).
The Liverpool players hacked, dived and cheated their way around the pitch.
 They even, on the odd occasion, had a stab at scoring a legitimate goal
(and raised my blood pressure way above normal) but really they had no
answers.  We won the battle of the midfield and whatever got passed Roy
Keane was swept away by Stam and Neville.  St Michael barely touched the
ball all evening.

We needed a bit of luck to get on the scoresheet and we got it when their
replacement for James turned out to be just as "dodgy".   After giving away
a corner, that nice little lad from the 'Pool (Jason "whining for England"
McAteer) deliberately handled the ball right in front of us.  Of course,
Denis put it away with his usual aplomb (despite Yorke trying to prise the
ball away from him before he took it!), and the whole of Old Trafford went
ballistic whilst the scousers wailed and complained up in their corner.
They came back into it after that and it was starting to look like we could
end up with a game of 5-a-side with all the battles that were going on both
on and off the ball.  We couldn't seem to get the ball into the net and I
was beginning to mutter about needing Cole's speed when he started to warm
up 20 minutes or so from the end.  To a massive round of applause, Andy
arrived on the pitch, and from then on the result was never in doubt.  His
speed and agility cut through the (crap) Liverpool defence, over and over
again and it wasn't long before the little ginger prince slammed the ball
into the back of the net and East Stand was going ballistic once again.  In
their corner, the Liverpool fans went very quiet and started to leave.
Unfortunately, GMP had decided not to let them out so they all had to
glumly come back to their seats and sit down again, much to the delight of
the laughing Mancs.  "Manchester, Manchester, Manchester".  They did have a
bit of excitement towards the end (and my blood pressure shot up again)
when they managed to get the ball in the net, but they were soon howling
again as the "goal" was adjudged to be off-side!  More laughter from the
United fans.

The end of the game saw the sort of celebrations you only get when you've
given the scousers or the bitters a good thrashing.  We sang our way out of
the stadium ("You'll never get a job") and onto the football specials back
into Manchester.  Charlie endeared himself to us still further by kissing
his badge to the Liverpool fans (not that many of them saw him - they had
their heads in their hands at this stage!).  He was sent home in no doubt
what the OT crowd thought of him - he will probably say he only got booed
all night because we love him really!

My man of the match?  Impossible to separate Gary Neville and Jaap Stam.
They were both awesome and played so well as a partnership that I will
treat them like Siamese twins and nominate them both!  Is this the start of
a new Dolly and Daisy?  Maybe not for all occasions, but faced with St
Michael Owen and his ilk, it was a perfect combination.  I'd also like to
nominate Cole for a supporting award.  After not getting a game in what
seems like weeks, he came on for the last quarter of the game and made the
difference that sewed up the game.  As for me, I enjoyed the game more than
I've enjoyed a game in months.  It was just what I needed after weeks of
stress and depression around the Murdoch affair.  Long may it continue.


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Subject: Carling report

Man United    (1) 2 Liverpool  (0) 0 FT
Irwin 19 (pen)                
Scholes 79                    

Manchester United made Liverpool pay the penalty for some poor defending when Denis Irwin fired them ahead at Old Trafford in a hot-tempered FA Carling Premiership clash. 

Jason McAteer handled the ball for a spotkick after Brad Friedel had made a hash of David Beckham's corner and Irwin scored from the penalty in the 19th minute. 

It was the Irishman's first goal of the season and the least United deserved after they bossed the opening 45 minutes in a vastly improved performance from their limp display at Arsenal. 

United boss Alex Ferguson demonstrated he has learned the lesson of last season's 1-1 draw against Liverpool at Old Trafford by moving Gary Neville across to centre-half to counter the pace of Michael Owen. 

Owen proved a real handful for United last April and scorched through their defence to score Liverpool's equaliser before he was sent off. 

Henning Berg was left out as Phil Neville came in, while up front Ole Gunnar Solskjaer returned as Ryan Giggs moved back to the left wing and Jesper Blomqvist dropped down to the substitutes bench. 

Paul Scholes for Nicky Butt was the only United change from the side swamped by Arsenal on Sunday. 

For Liverpool ``big-time Charlie'' Paul Ince returned after his knee strain to captain the side, while Karlheinz Riedle shrugged off his groin injury to replace Robbie Fowler in attack. 

The Reds, who have won once at Old Trafford in 16 years, replaced Vegard Heggem and Steve Staunton with McAteer and Stig-Inge Bjornebye respectively. 

Referee Steve Lodge made six bookings in an ill-tempered first half, which reflected the fierce rivalry between these sides. 

As expected Ince was booed by the home fans each time he touched the ball. 

Giggs shone early on for United and he sent over a couple of dangerous balls into the Liverpool box. 

Friedel nearly let United in when he sliced Phil Babb's pass back up into the air, but the Republic of Ireland centre-half cleared the danger. 

Ince escaped a booking for a hefty challenge on Scholes, but in the 11th minute Jamie Carragher was not so lucky when he was shown the yellow card for chopping down the England midfielder. 

United increased the pressure on the visitors' goal and Friedel needed to be alert to cut out Keane's pullback at the far post. 

Patrik Berger mustered Liverpool's first effort on goal when he beat Keane and unleashed a shot which deflected off Michael Owen. 

United soon resumed their grip on the game and Friedel almost let a shot from Ole Gunnar Solskjaer squirm under his body and into the goal. 

After Beckham swung over the resultant corner, the hapless Friedel fisted the ball up into the air and as it dropped in the six-yard box it came off McAteer's arm for a penalty. 

Irwin stepped up to slot the spotkick into the right-hand corner of the goal to open the scoring. 

Liverpool responded and Peter Schmeichel touched Jamie Redknapp's freekick away for a corner after Berger had been fouled 25 yards out from goal. 

Jamie Carragher felt he should have had a penalty because he had been held down going for a header, but Lodge gave nothing. 

The match was in danger of boiling over and Giggs and Ince were booked in quick succession. 

Phil Neville became the fourth player booked in the 33rd minute for a reckless challenge on Steve McManaman. 

Berger was then booked for protesting too strongly to Lodge after he was not given a freekick for a crunching tackle by Jaap Stam. 

Schmeichel preserved United's lead when he made a fine save from Owen just before half-time. 


Photographs © Ross Kinnaird/ALLSPORT



 
Man United: Schmeichel, G. Neville, Irwin, Stam, Beckham, Giggs, P. Neville, Keane, Scholes (Butt, 88), Yorke, Solskjaer (Cole, 69).

Subs not used: Blomqvist, Van Der Gouw, Berg.

Booked: Giggs, P. Neville, Stam, Scholes.

Liverpool: Friedel, McAteer, Babb, McManaman, Owen, Redknapp, Riedle (Fowler, 75), Berger, Ince, Bjornebye, Carragher.

Subs not used: James, Heggem, Matteo, Leonhardsen.

Booked: Carragher, Ince, Berger, Redknapp.

Attendance: 55,181. 

Referee: S Lodge (Barnsley). 
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Subject:   Fergie in trouble/ New Keeper?

UEFA PROBE FERGUSON REF BLAST
By David Anderson, PA Sport

Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson will find out next month if he will
be punished by UEFA for his blistering attack on the referee following the
Champions' League game against Barcelona.

Ferguson tore into Italian official Stefano Braschi after he awarded the
Spanish champions two penalties and sent off Nicky Butt in the 3-3 draw at
Old Trafford last week.

Ferguson's comments will be considered by UEFA's disciplinary committee who
could fine him or ban him from the touchline.

A UEFA spokeswoman said: "The matter will be decided at the disciplinary
committee meeting on October 8, which will probably be in Geneva.

"The committee will consider reports from the referee, the UEFA delegate
and the UEFA observer and then decide if it is necessary to take any action
against Mr Ferguson."


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UNITED IN RACE FOR ARGENTINA KEEPER
By Harrry Harris of the Daily Mirror

Manchester United want Argentinian Carlos Roa, the keeper who left England
and David Batty broken-hearted at France 98. 

Sources in Spain yesterday claimed United have already made a £6.5million
offer to his club Real Mallorca. Arsenal are also believed to be
interested, while Roa (above) revealed: "I've had an important offer from a
top English Premiership club which is being dealt with by my agent. 

"It is something we want sorted out as quickly as possible so I can
concentrate on my job." 

Agent Alejandro Camano confirmed there has been a "substantial offer" for
the keeper who saved Batty's spot-kick in the penalty shoot-out as England
went out of the World Cup. 

Camano added: "We are working hard to sort out the situation." 

He has been in England to set up the deal since Mallorca played a European
Cup tie at Hearts last week. 

United have been searching for a keeper all season because many at Old
Trafford believe this could be 34-year-old Peter Schmeichel's farewell
campaign. His deputy Raimond Van Der Gouw is 35 and United are looking
Villa's Mark Bosnich was originally believed to be top of their wanted list. 

Roa, signed 10 months ago from Argentine club Lamus for £650,000, is
anxious to cash in on his World Cup success, even though his contract does
not expire until 2001. 

He is Mallorca's highest-paid player on £8,000 a week but knows he could
treble that by moving. 

Mallorca's players threatened a strike before their European tie at Hearts
last week over the club's summer pay freeze. 

But the board of Spain's fastest improving side insist that, until they
sell players, there is no cash to spare. 

Directors are trying to move players out on loan, in an effort to ease the
wage bill. They would like Roa to stay but the lure of a big deal could
easily sway them. 

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Subject: Stam class highlights Liverpool's frailties

Saturday, September 26, 1998 

Jaap Stam's revitalised performance against Liverpool only confirmed what Roy Evans and Gerard Houllier already knew.

Unless Liverpool's joint managers find a defender who can consistently win the ball in the air their ambition of reaching next season's Champions League may never get off the ground.

The Dutchman, who was also wanted by Liverpool before making his world record £10.75million move to Manchester United, has hardly been flying since arriving in the Premiership.

But thanks to a crash course in the basics of defending in this country by the brilliant Gary Neville, Stam finally began to look like he knew what he was doing, even against Michael Owen and Karlheinz Reidle, then Robbie Fowler. Liverpool also learned their lesson and are now planning their own Dutch raid.

A high-powered Anfield contingent are due to fly out today to watch £4m-rated AZ Alkmaar central defender Peter Wijker in action against Bobby Robson's PSV Eindhoven.

Ironically, Wijker was earmarked as Stam's replacement at Eindhoven after his United move but Robson stopped the deal when he returned in the summer.

Liverpool have already watched videos of the player who is on the verge of a call-up to his national side and was the cornerstone of the Alkmaar team that gained promotion to the Dutch First Division.

Liverpool are also in discussion with Borussia Monchengladbach over Swedish defender Patrick Andersson, who has improved since an unsuccessful spell at Blackburn.

Their defensive frailties were certainly highlighted in the 2-0 defeat at United. Goalkeeper Brad Friedel flapping at crosses and Jamie Carragher and Phil Babb attempting to be combative in aerial challenges when one is not a natural centre back and the other is more of a left back. Both can play when the ball is on the deck but neither could ever win their wings.

Such is the continuing indecision within the Liverpool rearguard, so obvious is the lack of leadership, that Friedel, like David James before him, is beginning to look like a nervous wreck. 

His disposition was in marked contrast to Stam at Old Trafford on Thursday night. His confidence appeared to return as he played alongside Neville.

Former Old Trafford and Arsenal striker Frank Stapleton, who knows a thing or two about beating defenders in the air, believes Neville's influence could finally make Stam justifylook worth his huge transfer fee.

'For the first time he was playing alongside an Englishman, used to the English way of defending,' said Stapleton. 'Henning Berg and Ronny Johnsen are both accomplished players but they are both quiet, Norwegian and used to defending in a different way. 

'Gary Neville was talking to Stam constantly, forcing him to think, forcing him to concentrate and be ready for the next ball. The longer the game went on, the more convincing Stam looked.'

While Neville's influence will surely bring the best out of Stam the hunt goes on at Anfield. It cannot be allowed to continue for much longer
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Subject: Cole happy at Old Trafford  Bbc

Andy Cole - eager to link up with Dwight Yorke 

Striker Andy Cole wants to stay with Manchester United, despite Aston Villa's open interest in signing him. 
The 26-year-old has been left out of the starting line-up and made his first appearance for two weeks as a substitute in Thursday's 2-0 home win over Liverpool. 

He helped set up United's second goal and has no desire to leave the north-west. 

"My family is settled in Wilmslow now. My little boy is three and at nursery school and I like it round here," said Cole. 

He hopes to persuade United manager Alex Ferguson that he should be the first-choice strike partner for £12m Dwight Yorke. 

"I have just got to get on with it. I know I can score goals. I got 25 last season and I'm delighted with that. 

"I don't pick the team, but I'm sure I will get my chance and when I do I'll score goals," he added. 
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Subject: United back on title track after Liverpool win  
 
By Jeremy Butler 

MANCHESTER, England, Sept 25  - Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson believes his side are back on track in the hunt for the English premier league title after seeing them bounce back from a heavy defeat at Arsenal to beat Liverpool 2-0 on Thursday. 

Denis Irwin scored a controversial 17th-minute penalty and Paul Scholes added a superb second 11 minutes from time to ensure Liverpool left Old Trafford empty handed. 

The result was the perfect riposte following the 3-0 defeat last Sunday by champions Arsenal and it meant Ferguson maintained his fine record against Liverpool. 

Liverpool have won only once at United since Ferguson became manager in November 1986 and the Scot said he felt Thursday's win was a timely boost for his team. 

"I expected that response from my players because they knew they had to do something about the Arsenal defeat," he said. 

"It was a good win because we have beaten Liverpool who are one of our rivals for the title. They are a good side who do well away from home because they have players all over the pitch who want the ball." 

United's victory lifted them to third place with 11 points -- one position above Liverpool on goal difference. 

Despite defeat Liverpool's joint manager Gerard Houllier said he believed his team could be proud of their performance. 

"We deserved more than we got," said the Frenchman. "The team responded well to a silly goal and we deserved an equaliser." 

United striker Andy Cole came off the bench to set-up Scholes goal after claiming he wanted to stay at Old Trafford despite the interest of league leaders Aston Villa. 

"My family is settled in Wilmslow and I like it around here," said the former Newcastle striker. "All I want to do now is play. I don't pick the team but I'm sure I will get the chance and when I do will score goals." 

 
 
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Subject:   Teamtalk Cole vows to fight for United place «

Cole vows to fight for United place «« 

United striker Andy Cole has finally vowed to stay at Old Trafford and
fight for his place, quashing speculation of a move to Aston Villa once and
for all.
Villa boss John Gregory had revealed his interest in signing the former
Newcastle, Bristol City and Arsenal striker amid rumours of a £10 million bid.
But Cole said: "I don't pick the team but I'm sure I will get my chance and
when I do I'll get goals. 
"I have always believed in my ability to score goals and I have never lost
it. I got 25 goals last season and I am delighted with that. My family is
settled in the area, my little boy is at nursery and I like it round here."
Earlier this week, United fans were worried to hear of a reported reserve
team bust-up between the striker and Alex Ferguson.
However, the relationship appears to heve been patched up between the pair
after Cole was restored to the substitutes bench for Thursday's 2-0 win
over Liverpool - last season's top scorer setting up the clinching goal.
Cole's absence from the squad at Arsenal last Sunday was widely interpreted
to be a punishment for his poor attitude after being substituted in the
Pontin's League win over Birmingham last week.


 

United in for Argentine keeper ? «« 
United have been linked to Argentinian World Cup keeper Carlos Roa by
sources in Spain, although it is unlikely he will become either the
understudy or successor to Peter Schmeichel.
Roa, the scourge of England in the penalty shoot out at France 98, would
cost around £6.5m from Real Mallorca - ten times the price of Schmeichel
who was signed seven years ago.
Despite the rather fanciful link, it would be ridiculous to suggest there
is any chance of a deal for several reasons.
Roa is an established international who would hardly welcome playing second
fiddle to the Great Dane for at least another two seasons and lose his
national team place.
The 29-year-old has no experience of the Premiership or life in England and
looks outrageously overpriced when you consider Mark Bosnich and Espen
Baardsen will be free agents in the summer.
It can be dismissed as pure agent-generated paper talk, the player is
obviously desperate to get a move to this country and wants to attract a
club by claiming United or Arsenal are interested.
TEAMtalk's advice: Try Sheffield Wednesday. 
Roa said: "I've had an important offer from a top English Premiership club
which is being dealt with by my agent."

Neville enjoys brief central return «« 
Neville: Outstanding display
 
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