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Date: Thurs Sep 24 GMT+00:00 1998
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This Issue:
1. News Fergie to sell no more
2. Various bits and pieces by "Our Salford RED"
3. Manchester United v Liverpool Stats
4. Injury plagues United
5. INCE SET FOR OLD TRAFFORD RETURN
6. FERGIE WANTS FIVE MORE YEARS / PALACE HUNT FOR SHERINGHAM
7. Zagreb's midfielder Silvio Maric
8. Personal: My Outlook
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Daily RED Trivia Thurs 24th September:
1952: United win the Charity Shield, beating Newcastle United 4-2 at Old
Trafford watched by 11,381. Jack Rowley 2, Johnny Downie and Roger Bryne
got the goals. Team was: Wood, McNulty, Aston, Carey, Chilton, Gibson,
Berry, Downie, Rowley, Pearson, Bryne.
1962: Mike Phelan born in Nelson, Lancs. Phelan came from Norwich City and
made his United debut against Arsenal in August 1989. He won an FA Cup
Winners medal in 1990, a Cup Winners Cup medal in 1991, and a League Cup
winners medal in 1992. A versatile player, he made 145 appearances between 1989-94,
scoring 3 goals, and won 1 England cap in 1989. Phelan won a Division 3
Championship medal with Burnley in 1983 and a Division 2 Championship medal
with Norwich in 1986.
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Next 3 games:
Result/Fixture Index:
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Today! Liverpool (H) PL
Wed 30/9 Bayern M (A) CL
Sat 3/10 Southampton (A) PL
UNITED Stats v Liverpool are here:
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http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vsliverpool.xls Excel File
*** PL TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED - AS AT 12/09/98 ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
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Subject: Various bits and pieces by "Our Salford RED"
You know the old phrase, "You don't know what you've got til its
gone"? I was watching the Au Revoir Cantona video recently and it reminded
me just what an awesome team we had pre-95. Just thinking about the
line-up brings the hairs on the back of my neck to attention - Peter in
goal, Irwin, Dolly, Daisy and Parker across the back, Giggs Keane Ince and
Kanchelskis in midfield, and of course, Eric and Sparky up front. Eric was
the catalyst but he couldn't have done it without the rest of them. The
understanding Eric and Sparky had was awesome and I remember Peter being
asked at an IMUSA meeting who he missed most and he said Sparky - he could
throw, kick the ball anywhere and Sparky would be under it. I'm not
lessening Eric's importance, as I said earlier, he was the catalyst, the
magician, the one who pulled it all together, but he had a very special
team to work with. Once that team began to split up, the cracks began to
show (in my opinion, the only player we didn't miss was Ince).
When we won our second double, I believe it was for two reasons - Eric was
on a personal mission to show the world he could do it and there was no-one
who was really able to challenge us. I think this is why Eric lost his
passion. When we won the league the season before last, it was a very
muted celebration, both on and off the pitch. I believe this was because
we knew that other teams had lost it, rather than us win it. Last season,
Arsenal became the first team to really challenge us for a long time, and
probably will be again this season. I don't feel down-hearted about this
though, because I do believe that this team have the capability to become
as good (if not better, in Euro terms) than the first double winning side.
What has upset me a lot about this Murdoch deal is that it could affect
that - and seemingly is doing. As I said in an earlier posting, just as
they are getting it back together, the whole Murdoch affair blows up and
messes it all up. I can't believe that all the speculation isn't affecting
the players - they must be wondering every day what's going to happen, they
wouldn't be human if they didn't.
Maybe we do need another catalyst to draw it all together - personally, the
only player in the world I could see doing that would be Zidane - but what
we haven't to do is start panicking at this stage. All the hysteria (and I
don't include you in this Alan - I know how you feel, I feel it too) about
getting rid of Fergie(!) is nonsense at this stage of the season. As is
all the criticism of Stam. I watched the second episode of the Alex
Ferguson story last night and included in that was, of course, the 5-1
defeat at Maine Rd. Anyone criticising Stam should watch that, take
particular note of the performance of Gary Pallister and give Stam a little
time to prove his critics wrong (not that I think he needs to - I've been
very impressed by him).
Also in that programme, by the way, was an appearance by King Eric - he
gives the final word on Fergie (it went something like): "He was the best
manager I ever had, I respect him more than any other manager I've ever
met, I thank him for everything he ever did for me, and this comes straight
from the heart". As usual, he stole the programme, as it ended with him
standing up and walking off camera, obviously emotional. Perhaps those
"fans" who are already calling for Fergie to go, should have a word with
Eric who obviously knows a little more about football than they do!
Finally, what is hopefully good news - announced on GMR this morning,
Ferguson has hinted that he will be soon signing a new, 5-year contract as
he wants to spend the rest of his career at Manchester United. GMR's
rumours are usually true, let's pray this one is.
"Our Salford RED"
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Subject: Manchester United v Liverpool Stats
Manchester United v Liverpool
Thursday September 23, 1998
Kick-off: 8pm
Referee Steven Lodge (Barnsley)
Odds Man Utd 10-11 Liverpool 5-2 draw 9-4
Form Man Utd D-D-W-W-L; Liverpool D-W-W-L-D
Last season Manchester United 1 - 1 Liverpool (Johnsen;
Owen); Liverpool 1 - 3 Man Utd (Fowler; Cole 2, Beckham)
Leading league scorers Man Utd: Yorke (3); Liverpool: Owen (4)
The implications Manchester United will be looking to
bounce back from their 3-0 defeat against Arsenal on Sunday.
In a traditionally tight fixture, Liverpool will be hoping their
defence remains so after the chaos of last weekend's 3-3 draw
with Charlton.
Team news Roy Evans or Gerard Houllier are keeping quiet
about whether they'll pick Robbie Fowler or Karlheinz Riedle
to partner Owen up front, but Fowler is favourite, with two
goals on his return on Saturday. Paul Ince is rated 50-50 with
a knee injury. Ronny Johnsen is out for United with ankle
ligament damage.
Brass tactics A lot rests on how the defences deal with the
pace of Michael Owen and Ryan Giggs respectively. Alex
Ferguson will encourage his midfield to provide less air-borne
service to his front pair, and may be tempted to remove Giggs
to a more familiar left-sided role after Jesper Blomqvist's quiet
game at Highbury. Owen should be ably supported by the
in-form Patrik Berger (six goals in all competitions this season)
in worrying United's less than mobile central pairing of Jaap
Stam and Henning Berg.
Classic crunch In 1995-96 Old Trafford witnessed a typically
competitive 2-2 draw, with goals from Eric Cantona and
Nicky Butt offsetting a double from Robbie Fowler, who
terrorised Gary Neville down the inside-right channel.
Unhealed wounds A new wound has probably opened up
between Paul Ince and his old boss Alex Ferguson after
Ferguson called him a "big time Charlie" in this week's TV
documentary.
Head to head Arguably England's two best passers - David
Beckham and Jamie Redknapp - have a chance to compete
and compare notes.
Point to prove The Liverpool central defence will be trying to
show they don't need Sol Campbell's help.
Who he? Danny Murphy, Liverpool's 21-year-old ex-Crewe
midfielder, made some promising cameos last season and
threatens more this season.
Old boys Clearly Paul Ince was "big" enough to play for both clubs.
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Subject: Injury plagues United
Wednesday, September 23, 1998 Published at 11:00 GMT 12:00 UK
Injury plagues United
David May - struggling for fitness
Manchester United's injury problems are increasing
ahead of Thursday's showdown at Old Trafford against
arch rivals Liverpool.
Ronny Johnsen is still struggling with the ankle injury
which has caused him to miss United's last two games
and he is likely to be absent again.
David May and Teddy Sheringham are also struggling to
be in contention for a place in manager Alex Ferguson's
squad because they both have knee problems.
Sheringham would have figured against Arsenal on
Sunday, but for the injury.
Ferguson claimed he could not remember when his side
last played as poorly as they did when they lost 3-0 at
Highbury and he has called on his players to atone for
their display against Liverpool.
"It was a really disappointing performance on Sunday,
but now we have the chance to right all that by making
sure we perform and win against Liverpool," he said.
Meanwhile Ferguson is unmoved by Aston Villa's
intention to try and prise Andy Cole away from Old
Trafford.
"I have nothing to report on Andy Cole. It is not an
issue," he said.
Liverpool go into the game after their 3-3 draw with
Charlton.
Coach Roy Evans said: "Ours wasn't a brilliant team
performance on Saturday.
"It is always a big challenge between our two clubs and
we both feel we have to improve on our last results."
Striker Karlheinz Riedle is fit again after a groin problem
providing Evans and co-boss Gerard Houllier with a
choice of who to partner Michael Owen up front.
Robbie Fowler is also in contention but is more likely to
make the bench.
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Subject: FERGIE WANTS FIVE MORE YEARS / PALACE HUNT FOR SHERINGHAM
FERGIE WANTS FIVE MORE YEARS WITH UNITED
(23/09/98 09:04:11)
Manchester United boss Alex Ferguson has hinted that he is ready to
pledge his future to the club for another five years.
Ferguson said: "United are the best club in the business. I love it.
You get ingrained in the fabric of the place.
"I will be a manager for a few years yet, that`s for sure - and club
management is what I am good at."
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PALACE STILL IN HUNT FOR SHERINGHAM
(23/09/98 18:02:44)
Alex Ferguson claims he will resist Crystal Palace`s attempts to sign
Teddy Sheringham.
Palace chairman Mark Goldberg sees the England striker as the man to
help turn the club around after their poor start.
Goldberg is determined to act immediately to arrest Palace`s dismal
run on their return to the First Division, where they have collected just seven points
from seven games.
Goldberg has set off on a European shopping spree for new players with
coach Terry Venables, determined to act immediately to arrest Palace`s dismal
start to the season on their return to the first division - they have just seven points
from seven games.
Although he splashed out on more than half a dozen new signings over
the summer, Goldberg is prepared to fund even more purchases in the wake of the
recent sales of Hermann Hreidarsson to Brentford and Neil Shipperley to Nottingham
Forest.
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Subject: Zagreb's midfielder Silvio Maric
Manchester United to talk to Croatia's Maric-paper
ZAGREB, Sept 23 - The father of Croatia Zagreb's midfielder Silvio Maric
will hold talks next month with Manchester United, a Croatian newspaper
reported on Wednesday.
Maric's contract negotiations with Zagreb have broken down.
"As we have learned, Silvio Maric's father will spend four days in October,
from 15 to
18, when he will negotiate with Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson,"
Vecernji List said.
It added that Maric's father had not ruled out further negotiations with
Croatia
Zagreb.
"I cannot believe Silvio said he did not want to discuss staying at
Croatia, I think he
said that on a whim. I think he needs to talk," his father told the paper.
Maric helped the national team to their unexpected third place in the World
Cup,
playing mostly as substitute.
He is seen as crucial for Croatia Zagreb's European ambitions. They are in the
Champions' League for the first time this season, where they play in Group
A with
Ajax Amsterdam, Porto and Olympiakos Piraeus.
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Subject: Personal: My Outlook
Hi Fellow Reds
I feel I must my opinion to what has been said lately on the two digests. I
am very perturbed by some of the "news" items being reported along with some
of the supposed quotations being written lately.
1.The reporting that a BskyB representative has gone behind Fergie's back to
try and purchase Hidetoshi Nakata from Italian outfit Perugia, I take with a
pinch of salt. I am of the opinion that this is only rumourmongering by
either somebody or other. Whatever anybody might say about Murdoch, don't
anybody make the mistake of thinking that he is a fool. He didn't make all
his millions by "killing the goose that laid the golden egg". I am NOT
writing this letter in defense of Murdoch, but like I have said before,I
prefer to adopt a "wait-and-see" attitude. I do think that he is not
investing £623.4 million for his love of Manchester United, and that there
IS an ulterior motive, bearing in mind the pay-per-view TV, and the renewal
of the TV rights as a whole in 2001.
However, and with all due respect to Mick Hucknall, what is the difference
between Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner(are we to believe this story also?)? I
be that if anyone were to ask Ted Turner to name one player in the first
team of Manchester United, he would do NO better than the BskyB
representative. So, if one has the right to question Murdoch's motives, what
has Turner done to be any different?
Anyway, whatever happens, we must ALL wait until the ruling by the office of
Fair Trading which is due on September 28th before finding out who will be
the Old Trafford landlords.
There are three conclusions that I must draw from all the talks & events
that have occurred over the last few weeks a) that the club WILL have new
owners in the near future, b) that the £623.4 million buyout figure will go
much higher seeing that there are more bidders coming out of the woodwork,
and c) that the only person laughing all the way to the bank is CEO Martin
Edwards. I must say that I find it EXTRADORINARY that he is being given a
seat on the BskyB board as part of his deal for selling out. I am not a
financial wizard, but as an average man in the street, I think Fartin Martin
has sold the club down the drain just to decorate the lining in his own
pockets. We shall soon see.
2. I am also very unhappy at some of the crap (in my opinion) being voiced
recently about Jaap Stam. After watching the Barcelona game, which for me
was refereed by a blind asshole, the man of the match for me was Jaap Stam.
And then along came the debacle of Highbury. I have read where some people
are saying that Jaap had a very poor game, and they held him responsible for
2 of the Arsenal goals. What Rubbish!!! I don't know if I was watching the
same game as some of the other contributors to the list, but the commentator
on the match (Dempsey, or Bloom?) absolutely tore Jaap to shreds for his
performance. Yet, who was Stam marking during the game? None other than
Bergkamp. And how did he play? Lousy in my opinion. Why? Because he was
marked out of the game by Stam.
I must add that in my opinion, Henning Berg had a terrible game, and that
Stam at times was covering for Berg as well as doing his own job. Why, oh
why did we have to sell Pally so quickly? And, when is Ronny's injury going
to be a thing of the past.
I would also like to add that I was amazed that Fergie did not make changes,
if not at 1/2 time, then at least sometime during the second half. However,
Alex has NEVER ever let the club down, and therefore I'm sure that he had
written off the Arsenal game and was planning ahead to silence the scousers
on Thursday night- maybe checking out a 90 minute run for Blomqvist? I do
think a fully fit Blomqvist will be an asset to the club, but from what I
saw on Sunday, there is still a bit to go before he get's there. Also, the
same can be said for Keano.
I'm sure there will be a far more motivated performance on Thursday night.
Whatever the outcome of the ruling on September the 28th, I would like to
finish off by saying something about the buyout drama. While sympathizing
with Linda, and DA, to name but 2, regarding the heart & soul of the club, I
could NEVER even contemplate me supporting ANY other club. Manchester United
has been my life for nigh on 34 years now, AND will be for the next 34, God
willing. Therefore, Murdoch, or Turner, or whoever buy's out the club, they
will not put me off supporting the GREATEST football club in the world. To
use David's phrase, I'm "Red 'til I'm dead"
FOREVER RED
Gerry Byrne
Port Elizabeth
South Africa
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