www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Mon Nov 23 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. Swedish Link-Up To Be Completed
2. UNITED Slip-up Spells Trouble For Barcelona
3. Elleray
4. United suffer pre-European pain
5. Manchester United Reserves + Junior Teams Pontins/FA Premier Academy U-17/U-19
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Daily RED Trivia Mon 23rd November:
23/11/1952: Arthur Whalley died in Manchester. Whalley made his debut at Sheffield
Wednesday in December 1909, and with 15 appearances in 1911 won a League
Championship medal. The versatile Half-back made 106 appearances between
1909-20, scoring 6 goals. He joined Southend United in September 1920.
1991: United beat West Ham United 2-1 at Old Trafford in a Division 1 game
watched by 47,185. Ryan Giggs and Bryan Robson scored for the Reds. Team
was: Schmeichel, Parker (Blackmore), Irwin, Bruce, Webb, Pallister, Robson
Kanchelskis, McClair, Hughes, Giggs.
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Barry Daily Comment:
Looking forward to Wednesday the big clash of giants could go the REDS way?
Rest of 1998 games:
Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
Wed 25/11 Barcelona (A) CL 19.45
Sun 29/11 Leeds (H) PL 14.00 Sky Sports
Wed 2/12 Tottenham (A) (Worthington Cup 1/4 final) 19.45
Sat 5/12 Aston Villa (A) PL 15.00
Wed 9/12 Bayern Munich (H) CL 19.45
Sat 12/12 Tottenham (A) PL 15.00
Wed 16/12 Chelsea (H) PL Sky Sports time 20.00
Sat 19/12 Middlesbrough (H) PL 15.00
Sat 26/12 Nottm Forest (H) PL
Tue 29/12 Chelsea (A) PL Sky Sports time 19.45 UK
UNITED Stats v Leeds:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vsleeds.htm
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079
08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174
14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198
21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475
Prem Table 21/11:
Pos Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Aston Villa 13 5 1 1 13 8 3 3 0 7 2 10 28
2 Manchester United 13 5 2 0 18 6 2 2 2 9 8 13 25
3 Arsenal 14 4 3 0 10 2 2 3 2 4 4 8 24
4 Chelsea 12 4 2 0 10 3 2 3 1 11 9 9 23
5 Leeds United 14 4 2 1 10 3 1 6 0 10 8 9 23
6 Middlesbrough 14 3 4 0 12 5 2 3 2 11 11 7 22
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Champions League:
**Nov 4 Barcelona 1-2 Bayern Munich
**Nov 4 Man Utd 5-0 Brøndby
Group D P W D L F A Pts
Man United 4 2 2 0 16 7 8
Bayern Munich 4 2 1 1 6 5 7
Barcelona 4 1 1 2 6 6 4
Brondby 4 1 0 3 4 14 3
To be played:
Nov 25 Barcelona v Man Utd
Nov 25 Bayern Munich v Brøndby
Dec 9 Brøndby v Barcelona
Dec 9 Man Utd v Bayern Munich
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To: Swedish Link-Up To Be Completed
United will hold further talks this week to form a partnership with Swedish
side Helsingborgs, reports claim.
Sources in Norway report that Aage Hareide, manager of the Swedish Premier
League side will travel to Old Trafford this week to talk with club
officials about the link up.
"We will be able to take players from United's solid squad," said Hareide.
"In return we will develop players from Sweden and East Europe for United."
The deal, revealed exclusively on TEAMtalk, is expected to be conducted in
the same vein as the tie-in with Belgian side Royal Antwerp.
Hareide is a close associate of Alex Ferguson following Ole Gunnar
Solksjaer's transfer from Molde, where Hareide was coach.
It is believed United will use the partnership to develop young Scandinavian
talent and players from the Eastern bloc.
Keeper Search Extended
United have spread the net a little wider in a bid to recruit the best
possible replacement for Peter Schmeichel, in readiness for the great Dane's
departure at the end of the season.
His current Old Trafford understudy, Raimond van der Gouw, has signed a new
contract to stay with the club for another year, but the 35 year old
Dutchman knows that he will not be the long term replacement.
He said : "I don't expect to be first choice next season after Peter leaves.
It is clear that the club plan to bring in one, or even two young keepers
and my role will be to help them."
With Aston Villa's Australian international, Mark Bosnich, seemingly having
priced himself out of contention with excessive wage demands, attention has
turned to the options available from mainland Europe.
A top new name on the shortlist is Ajax's 28 year old current Dutch
international, Edwin van der Sar, who has lots of experience at the highest
level and is keen to try his luck in the Premiership. Alex Ferguson has also
checked on the giant Swede, Matthias Asper, 6' 5" tall, 25 year old,
currently playing with AIK Stockholm, who have just won their league title.
He has impressed United's watching scouts and would be available at less
than £1M.
With Schmeichel having another poor game in the Reds shock 3 - 1 defeat at
Hillsbrough, the need to make a signing is becoming a little more urgent and
it is even been suggested that a definite move into the transfer market to
buy a new goalkeeper will be made before the New Year.
Soccer Goes Techno Crazy
Virtual technology looks set to hit Premiership grounds next season.
The Premier League are drawing up plans to introduce virtual advertising,
enabling advertisers to change their messages on the perimeter boards to
suit the country in which the games are broadcast.
The system is widely used in other sports such as motor racing and tennis
drawing in big money.
The technology will enable sponsors to change the wording on the perimeter
fence and will also allow for virtual messages to be projected around the
stadium and onto the pitch.
The plan will be voted on by the Premier League at their general meeting on
December 3.
Hoddle Reacts To Cole 'Coward' Jibe
England coach Glenn Hoddle has broken his silence over Andy Cole's comments
earlier this week - when the United striker called the national boss
behaviour 'cowardly'.
Hoddle's open criticism Cole's ratio of goals to chances upset the Reds
hit-man who bagged his eighth of the season at Hillsborough today, but the
manager has explained himself.
Hoddle said: "When I was asked the question, I said a lot of positive things
about Andy Cole.
"But he still neds some chances to put the ball in the back of the net."
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"
Subject: UNITED SLIP-UP SPELLS TROUBLE FOR BARCELONA
Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson knows it, and
Sheffield Wednesday's two-goal hero Niclas Alexandersson
would put money on it - Barcelona are in for a beating on
Wednesday night.
Ferguson described his side's performance as
''unrecognisable'' as the Hillsborough hoodoo struck again,
with United having won just once at the venue in their last
nine visits. That statistic aside and no disrespect to
Wednesday, but this was a match in which Fergie's team
should have taken the points as the Owls had not won their
previous six league games.
Which is why Ferguson now fears his multi-million pound
all-stars are simply 'a big game team', unable to raise
themselves for the bread-and-butter of the Premier League.
Come the Nou Camp for the penultimate Champions
League Group D match, and Ferguson reckons United will be
back to their old selves as they turn on the style which has
been their hallmark in Europe this season.
Swedish international Alexandersson is convinced that will be
the case, despite his double condemning United to only
their second league defeat of the season. Admittedly, he
had luck on his side for the 15th minute opener and his first
goal in 11 months for the club when Peter Schmeichel
fumbled a 20-yard left-foot pot-shot over his own line. But
there was no doubting the quality of his second and the
Owls third as he blocked Jaap Stam's 73rd minute
attempted clearance before rounding Schmeichel to slide
the ball home with his right.
Stam was the only player singled out by Ferguson as
''performing to the standards you expect of a United player''
- so, a collective bad day at the office? Alexandersson
doesn't think so, but knows that Wednesday night will be
different. He said: ''I couldn't pick a better game than
Manchester United to score twice. But they've so many
quality players, you cannot really say we caught them on an
off day. I would prefer to think it was a good performance
from us instead. I can see them bouncing back against
Barcelona. Of course they can win because of the great array
of talent in their side. I would put money on it. And I'm sure
Alex Ferguson will get his side up for the game. Anyway, I
don't think Barcelona have impressed that much this
season.''
United will be hoping Alexandersson is right because
Ferguson was less than impressed and somewhat bemused
by his side's abject failure at Hillsborough. With the
exception of Andy Cole's 29th minute equaliser - his eighth
of the season - which sparked the visitors into life for a 25
minute spell either side of the break, United were rarely in
the game.
Ferguson said: ''It was a really poor performance from us.
We were unrecognisable and well beaten by a Wednesday
side who deserved to win. You wonder whether we are a big
game team now. You get that feeling sometimes. They (the
players) let themselves down, but you know that come
Wednesday they will probably excel. You hope you never
get surprised at this club, but they can do that. It's a
rollercoaster ride at times. We were on the top in this game
and came right off.''
Dutch international Wim Jonk restored Wednesday's lead
with his first goal in 16 appearances for the Owls since his
£2.5m summer move from PSV Eindhoven, after which
Ferguson admitted ''it was all downhill from there''.
But for Alexandersson, who arrived in Sheffield just under a
year ago as the first of former boss Ron Atkinson's signings
in his second spell in charge, yesterday was the pinnacle to
date of an up-and-down career with Wednesday.
He played just seven games following a £750,000 transfer
from Gothenburg before a knee ligament injury at the end
of January ruled him out for the next eight months. Now he
is hoping his brace kick-starts a new beginning for him and
the club. He said: ''I have been improving with every game
since I came back. The knee has felt great the whole time.
It's just fitness and self-confidence where I've been lacking.
But after the first goal I started to relax and the confidence
grew. I started well when I first arrived and I've always
wanted to reach those same standards. This game was
another step towards that level. I would like to think this is
the start of a good run both for myself and the team.
Certainly the last two games, as a side, we have grown in
confidence. The second half against Manchester United was
the best football we have played this season. Now we just
need to keep our commitment and confidence high for the
next game at Chelsea.''
"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"
From: Jon Leigh
Subject: Elleray
To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
In over 30 years of watching football, I have not seen a more blatant
penalty (including ALL the ones I have seen given) than the one we were
denied - right in front of me - at Hillsbro' yesterday.
If we had gone in at half time 2-1 up it would have been only a less
unjust scoreline: we totally bossed the first half and Wednesday never
threatened, relying on Peter chucking the ball in his own net for their
goal.
Thanks a bunch, Elleray, I always thought of you as a decent referee but
you made an absolute howler this time. You had a fair view of it, too. I
can only conclude that something flew in your eye at the critical
moment.
I still cannot believe that we have lost, yet again, to such a
completely shite team who will, on yesterday's evidence of apparently
one of their better displays, have to fight very hard not to be playing
Bury and Stockport and (well pigs might fly) even citynil next season.
End of rant.
Jon.
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Subject: United suffer pre-European pain
By Bill Barclay
LONDON, Nov 22 - As preparation goes, this weekend was less
than ideal for Manchester United.
United missed the chance to go top when they crashed 3-1 at struggling Sheffield
Wednesday. United play Barcelona in midweek, and were left nursing only wounded
pride from their Hillsborough debacle.
United's position in group D is good. They are top with eight points but
must play Bayern Munich, who have seven, at Old Trafford in their final match.
So defeat at the Nou Camp against Barcelona, who have four points, on Wednesday
could leave them needing to beat the Germans to secure the automatic spot.
Bayern play host to Brondby, beaten 5-0 by United earlier this month, on
Wednesday.
Ferguson will be without Welshman Ryan Giggs, who has a broken bone in his foot,
Norwegian Ronny Johnsen and former Barcelona player Jordi Cruyff through injury
but said none of his team had picked up extra injuries at the weekend.
That was surely the only bright spot of a shoddy Hillsborough display that had
Ferguson fuming.
"We were unrecognisable. Only (Dutch defender Jaap) Stam performed to the
standards of Manchester United."
"If we give the ball away like that on Wednesday we will be severely punished."
Ferguson is still sore about a 4-0 Nou Camp drubbing four years ago in the same
competition. "It's time to bury the memory of 1994," he said.
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Subject: Manchester United Reserves + Junior Teams Pontins/FA Premier Academy U-17/U-19
Updated 16/11/98
by Paul Hinson
NEWS 17/11/98: Jonathan Greening scored a hat-trick last night as Man United Reserves beat
Leicester Reserves 6-2, in front of 14,263 people at Filbert St. This was United's eighth
successive victory.
Mark Wilson scored a penalty on 21 minutes after Greening was brought down in the box. Less
than two minutes later, Greening scored his first from a cross from Erik Nevland and the same
combination scored again 10 minutes later.
Leicester pulled one back just before half-time through Stefan Oakes but in the second half,
Nevland acted as provider again to set up Michael Clegg at 60 minutes. Richard Wellens scored
the fifth at 68 minutes before Oakes scored again from the penalty spot. In the last minute,
however, Greening scored his third, and final goal.
97-8 98-9
AUGUST
Thu 20 SUNDERLAND (H) - 0-0
SEPTEMBER
Wed 2 ASTON VILLA (H) 1-0 4-0 (Wilson 2, Jaszczun og, Greening)
Sat 5 Everton (A) 2-3 2-0 (Cruyff, Greening)
Thu 17 BIRMINGHAM CITY (H) 2-0 3-2 (Sheringham 2, Cruyff)
Fri 25 Liverpool (A) 2-2 2-0 (Notman, Cruyff)
OCTOBER
Thu 1 NOTTINGHAM FOREST (H) 1-1 1-0 (Cooke)
Wed 14 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H) 2-2 3-2 (Greening 2, Wilson)
NOVEMBER
Tue 3 STOKE CITY (H) 4-2 4-1 (Notman, Wilson, Greening, Wood)
Mon 16 Leicester City (A) - 6-2 (Scorers update next week)
DECEMBER
Wed 2 Leeds United (A) 0-3
Mon 14 Sunderland (A) -
JANUARY
Wed 6 Aston Villa (A) 1-0
Wed 27 DERBY COUNTY (H) 2-1
FEBRUARY
Wed 3 Birmingham City (A) 2-0
Mon 8 Preston North End (A) 6-1
Tue 23 Nottingham Forest (A) 1-0
MARCH
Wed 3 LIVERPOOL (H) 0-1
Mon 15 Blackburn Rovers (A) 1-3
Mon 22 Stoke City (A) 2-1
Sat 27 EVERTON (H) 7-0
APRIL
Wed 14 LEICESTER CITY (H) -
Wed 28 LEEDS UNITED (H) 1-1
TBA PRESTON NORTH END (H) 5-2
TBA Derby County (A) 4-0
First 3 and last 3 Home fixtures at Old Trafford,
Kick-off 7pm.
Remainder at Gigg Lane, Bury, Kick-off 7.30.
All Saturday fixtures Kick-off 2pm.
Fixtures subject to alteration.
Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 03/11/98)
Henning BERG 1 0
Russell BEST 0+1 0
Jesper BLOMQVIST 3 0
Wes BROWN 2 0
Nicky BUTT 2 0
Chris CASPER 2 0
Michael CLEGG 8 0
Andy COLE 1 0
Terry COOKE 6+1 1
Jordi CRUYFF 5 3
Nick CULKIN 1 0
John CURTIS 5 0
Ryan FORD 1+1 0
Jonathan GREENING 6+1 5
Paul GIBSON 3 0
David HEALY 0+2 0
Danny HIGGINBOTHAM 3 0
Ronny JOHNSEN 1 0
David MAY 5 0
Philip MULRYNE 4 0
Erik NEVLAND 2+2 0
Alex NOTMAN 4 2
John O'SHEA 1 0
Lee ROCHE 0+1 0
Teddy SHERINGHAM 1 2
Dominic STUDLEY 1 0
Paul TEATHER 2+2 0
Raimond VAN DER GOUW 4 0
Ronnie WALLWORK 5+1 0
Richard WELLENS 2+1 0
Mark WILSON 7+1 4
Jamie WOOD 0+3 1
Jaszczun (Aston Villa) 1 og
Pontins League Premier Division
Results from last week:
No fixtures played
All facts and figures updated by
Paul Hinson P.L.Hinson@ais.salford.ac.uk
Webmaster barry@www.red11.org
PONTINS PREMIER LEAGUE
P W D L F A Pts
UNITED (2) 8 7 1 019 5 22
Sunderland (-) 8 5 2 115 6 17
Everton (7) 8 4 2 210 8 14
Blackburn Rovers (3) 9 4 2 313 12 14
Birmingham City (5) 10 3 4 313 11 13
Aston Villa (4) 8 3 1 412 12 10
Preston North End (9) 7 2 2 36 10 8
Leicester City (-) 8 2 2 48 14 8
Leeds United (1) 6 2 1 37 11 7
Liverpool (10) 4 2 0 26 7 6
Nottingham Forest (11) 7 1 3 36 7 6
Derby County (8) 8 1 3 46 10 6
Stoke City (6) 7 1 1 56 14 4
Last seasons position in brackets
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Manchester Senior Cup
JANUARY
Tue 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H)
FEBRUARY
Thu 11 BURY (H)
MARCH
Wed 10 Oldham Athletic (A)
Wed 31 Bury (A)
APRIL
Tue 6 Manchester City (A)
Wed 21 OLDHAM ATHLETIC (H)
Venues/Kick-off times to be decided.
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Manchester United FA Premier Academy U-19
SEPTEMBER
Sep 5 West Ham United (A) 0-3
Sat 12 DERBY COUNTY (H) 1-1 (Healy)
Sat 19 WATFORD (H) 2-4 (O'Shea, Chadwick)
Sat 26 WIMBLEDON (H) 4-0 (Healy 3, Chadwick)
OCTOBER
Sat 3 FULHAM (H) 4-0 (Healy 3, Evans)
Sat 17 Manchester City (A) 4-1 (Evans, Healy, Clegg, Daly og)
Sat 24 EVERTON (A) 1-0 (Knowles og)
Sat 31 LIVERPOOL (H) 1-1 (Healy)
NOVEMBER
Sat 7 Bolton Wanderers (A) 2-1 (Wheatcroft, Ryan)
Sat 14 Blackburn Rovers (A)
Sat 21 ASTON VILLA (H)
Sat 28 CREWE ALEXANDRA (H)
DECEMBER
Sat 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H)
Sat 19 Everton (H)
JANUARY
Sat 16 Liverpool (A)
Sat 30 BOLTON WANDERERS (H)
FEBRUARY
Sat 13 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H)
Sat 20 Aston Villa (A)
Sat 27 Crewe Alexandra (A)
MARCH
Sat 6 Crystal Palace (A)
Sat 20 BRISTOL CITY (H)
Sat 27 Sheffield Wednesday (A)
Home fixtures played at the Cliff, Lower Broughton, Salford
Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 07/11/98)
Luke CHADWICK 8+1 2
George CLEGG 4+2 1
Stephen COSGROVE 2 0
Wayne EVANS 4+3 2
Ian FITZPATRICK 6+1 0
David HEALY 5 9
Jason HICKSON 0+2 0
Kirk HILTON 2+1 0
Joshua HOWARD 1 0
John O'SHEA 7+1 1
Paul RACHUBKA 9 0
Lee ROCHE 9 0
Stephen ROSE 7 0
Michael RYAN 5 1
Michael STEWART 8 0
Dominic STUDLEY 6+2 0
John THORRINGTON 5 0
Richard WELLENS 2 0
Paul WHEATCROFT 5+1 1
Lee WHITELEY 0+1 0
Daly (Manchester City) 1 og
Knowles (Everton) 1 og
Top of Group A (up to and including 02/11/98)
FA Premier Academy League Under-19
P W D L F A Pts
Crewe Alexandra 7 5 2 1 16 8 17
Everton 8 5 1 2 13 11 16
UNITED 8 4 2 2 17 10 14
Aston Villa 8 3 2 3 19 20 11
Liverpool 6 2 3 1 10 5 9
Bolton Wanderers7 2 1 4 11 18 7
Blackburn Rovers7 2 0 5 6 12 6
Manchester City 7 1 2 4 5 12 5
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Manchester United FA Premier Academy U-17
SEPTEMBER
Sep 5 West Ham United (A) 2-1 (Walker, Webber)
Sat 12 DERBY COUNTY (H) 4-0 (Szmid, Muirhead, Rose, McDermott)
Sat 19 WATFORD (H) 2-1 (Wood, Muirhead)
Sat 26 WIMBLEDON (H) 5-0 (Webber, Grogan, Wood, Lynch, Davis)
OCTOBER
Sat 3 FULHAM (H) 9-0 (Webber 5,Davis,McDermott,Lynch,Whiteman)
Sat 17 Manchester City (A) 2-0 (Davis, Webber)
Sat 24 EVERTON (H) 3-2 (Webber, McDermott, Davis)
Sat 31 LIVERPOOL (H) 2-2 (Lynch, Molloy)
NOVEMBER
Sat 7 WIMBLEDON (A) 1-1 (Webber)
Sat 14 Blackburn Rovers (A)
Sat 21 ASTON VILLA (H)
Sat 28 CREWE ALEXANDRA (H)
DECEMBER
Sat 12 MANCHESTER CITY (H)
Sat 19 Everton (A)
JANUARY
Sat 16 Liverpool (A)
Sat 30 Tottenham Hotspur (A)
FEBRUARY
Sat 13 BLACKBURN ROVERS (H)
Sat 20 Aston Villa (A)
Sat 27 Crewe Alexandra (A)
MARCH
Sat 6 Crystal Palace (H)
Sat 20 BRISTOL CITY (H)
Sat 27 Sheffield Wednesday (A)
Home fixtures played at Littleton Road, Salford
Appearances and Goals 1998-99 (up to and including 07/11/98)
James DAVIS 5+1 4
Ashley DODD 1 0
Kevin GROGAN 3+2 1
Mark LYNCH 9 3
Alan MCDERMOTT 8 3
Allan MARSH 1 0
Eric MOLLOY 4+2 1
MORAN 8 0
Ben MUIRHEAD 7 2
Michael ROSE 9 1
Mark STUDLEY 9 0
Gareth STRANGE 8 0
Marek SZMID 9 1
Joshua WALKER 5+1 1
Danny WEBBER 7 10
Marc WHITEMAN 2+2 1
WILLIAMS 0+2 0
Neil WOOD 4+1 2
Top of Group A (up to and including 02/11/98)
FA Premier Academy League Under-17
table: P W D L F A Pts
1st UNITED 8 7 1 0 29 6 22
2 Blackburn Rovers
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