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MANUNITED.NETLANE.COM : TODAYS NEWS Date: Sat Mar 21 09:42:35 GMT+00:00 1998 Mail: firstname.lastname@example.org A complete weekend "no football" just what the doctor called for! We'll be back Greetings to REDS all over the world Keep the faith your editor Barry Leeming in Denmark the land of goalkeepers. This Issue: 1. Woodwork squeaks and out come the freaks 2. Edwards theory 3. MAN UTD news from TEAMTALK 4. Martin Edwards come on down!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5. Giggs's big goals this year 6. HUCKERBY 7. The New Manchester United Museum ++++++=========+++++++========+++++++++========++++++++ X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by internal-ns.businessobjects.com id NAA23377 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:42:58 +0100 Reply-To: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)"
Sender: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" From: Ian GRANT Subject: Woodwork squeaks and out come the freaks To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU I don't usually post newspaper articles to the list (I can never be sure if it's already been posted). But I'm posting this article from the Electronic Telegraph by Henry Winter because I think it highlights some critical points and home truths about the reality of our situation. I would encourage some list members to take special note. Espically the paragraph starting "Criticism cannot be levelled at Ferguson", I then hope they review the absolute crap they've sent to the list over the last couple of days. COUNTING THE COST. RIPPLES continued to spread across the well of Manchester United's despair yesterday. England, as well as United, were left to count the cost of Wednesday night's defeat to Monaco on away goals in the quarter-finals of the European Cup, writes Henry Winter. Glenn Hoddle's players gather at Bisham Abbey today to commence training for next week's friendly in Switzerland. The United contingent will be depleted: Paul Scholes, Gary and Phil Neville will not attend, and Andy Cole and Nicky Butt are doubtful, though David Beckham and Teddy Sheringham should be present. "We are aware of some injuries at Manchester United," David Davies, the Football Association's director of public affairs, said last night. "Alex Ferguson and Glenn will be talking again about the matter. Glenn selected a large squad to deal with all eventualities. I'm not aware of any plans for players to be called up." The real issue between Ferguson and Hoddle regards Scholes, who needs some foreign bodies washed out of a knee, a simple operation involving a three-week lay-off. But such are United's injury problems that Ferguson may decide to nurse Scholes through until the championship is settled; Scholes can play but not with 100 per cent movement. If Arsenal take United down to the wire, Scholes's operation would not be until May 11. England depart on their pre-France 98 tour 13 days later with the final squad to be announced by June 2. Time is tight. "We have been reviewing the Scholes situation today," said a United spokesman, "and Alex Ferguson and Glenn Hoddle are to discuss it further." Ferguson's responsibility lies with United, not England and, as he ponders the Scholes dilemma, his mind will doubtless turn ruefully to today's European Cup draw. The way the four semi-finalists used the winter transfer window may prove instructive to United. Real Madrid signed the Brazilian forward, Savio, and the skilful French midfielder, Christian Karembeu, both of whom started in Wednesday's 3-0 (4-1 aggregate) defeat of Bayer Leverkusen. Juventus, 4-1 winners over Dynamo Kiev (5-2 on aggregate), registered two young Uruguayans, Cesar Pellegrin and Marcelo Zalayeta, and most notably Edgar Davids, the dynamic Dutch international from A C Milan. Borussia Dortmund, who slipped past Bayern Munich 1-0 on the night and on aggregate, acted to cover the absence of Matthias Sammer by promoting Manfred Binz, a German international formerly with Brescia. Monaco's mid-season manoeuvring was less complicated, although still intriguing. Eric Di Meco, a veteran of Marseille's 1993 European Cup final success, had retired but remained registered and was given the No 26 shirt as cover for injuries. So while the four eventual semi-finalists were investing in players such as Karembeu, Davids and Binz, and dusting down old hands such as Di Meco, United were effectively standing still, even reducing their contingent by selling Karel Poborsky. UEFA's official note on Old Trafford's transfer-window activity reads: "Alex Ferguson made inquiries about several foreign players . . . but when the registration deadline arrived, he said 'I'm happy with what I've got'." Ferguson's view was understandable. United had just finished top of a group containing Juventus and were forging ahead domestically. Equally, Old Trafford takes great pride in the young players reared on Red traditions, such as Michael Clegg, a substitute against Monaco. But Ferguson's squad had become stretched, through the rigours of English competitions. The damage deepened. Already missing Roy Keane, United then lost Ryan Giggs, Gary Pallister and Peter Schmeichel. The latter pair, key defensive components, had been present for every second of United's six Group B games while Giggs started five of them. When United required winter reinforcements most, none had been made available. "We need strengthening, no question of that," Ferguson said in the wake of Wednesday's disappointment. "After we lost Keane with the injury, Scholes and Butt did really well immediately and that allowed me to think we could get through the season. But when it came to it we had to patch up the team." Criticism cannot be levelled at Ferguson. United's manager is regularly linked with overseas talent, such as Marcelo Salas or Gabriel Batistuta. His willingness to recruit is not at issue. Nor, really, is the fee; Ferguson, after all, spent £7 million on Andy Cole. The problem with foreigners such as Batistuta is the salary, substantially beyond the payslips of Ferguson's squad. Introducing a Batistuta into the dressing room would mean improving other players' wages or risking resentment. So Ferguson is left in a quandary. His other concern, one that affects all managers of plc-governed clubs, is whether such wages would be sanctioned by directors. If Ferguson had won the European Cup without significant outlay, it would have been a triumph for economical management. Yesterday morning United's stock market value fell by £26 million to £353.3 million. Despite Ajax's youth-driven success in 1995, the feeling persists that real investment is needed to compete in the Real world. ------------------------------------- Ian Grant, email@example.com ------------------------------------- X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:38:24 +0300 Reply-To: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" Sender: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" From: "Hamzah S.Hothaifa" Subject: Edwards theory To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU I think what Martin Edwards said about it being too late to sign new players is absolutely right for 3 reasons: 1-New players at this time of season will cost more money. 2-Those players will need time to blend in with the team. 3-We don't need new players to win the league, because the current team are the best in England by a mile. So when we win the league come the end of the season, we can start thinking about new players and I'm still sticking by my choice of Sol Campbell in defence, Spurs struggling does not mean he is not a good player, just go back to the England Italy game when he played a big role in England reaching the World cup finals and if you look back at our games this season and the one before you may notice that none of our centre forwards scored against Spurs so he must have been doing a good job, and besides Keane was signed from Forest after they were relegated, Pally was singed from Boro and Robson from WBA........get my point??! United we shall stand!..........regards / Hamzah X-Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:29:32 +0100 Reply-To: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" Sender: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" From: Helgi Adalsteinsson Subject: MAN UTD news from TEAMTALK To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eris.web-plus.dk id MAA14882 Schmeichel boost «« Peter Schmeichel is hopeful of making the next Premiership game - at home to Wimbledon a week on Saturday. The big Dane said: "I hope to be fit. I have never had an injury like this so you can never say. I don't know what the sickness I get from my injury is and what it means. "But I am confident that with all the possible treatment that's available, I have a chance." United late for dealing «« Manchester United chairman Martin Edwards has admitted that any attempt by manager Alex Ferguson to strengthen the United ranks could have come too late. The reigning English champions picked up several injury concerns during their elimination from the Champions League by Monaco on Wednesday evening. And with Arsenal closing the gap on them at the top of the Premiership, new faces are required to plug the gaps to help capture the League title for the third time in four years. However, transfer deadline day is fast approaching, leaving Ferguson little time to manoeuvre to wheel and deal in the domestic market. Supremo Edwards said: "When you leave it this late clubs are looking for championships and aren't going to sell players to you." There has been growing unrest amongst supporters about certain individuals. Teddy Sheringham isn't the fans' favourite at the moment by any means. And French striker Stephane Guivarc'h is starting to catch the attention of Britain's top clubs. The £5m-rated Auxerre star has scored 46 goals so far this season and could be the man on Ferguson's mind. Liverpool's Roy Evans watched the player in person on Tuesday evening. Elsewhere, hopes of bringing winger Keith Gillespie back to Old Trafford before the summer seem to be fading as Newcastle United start to become embroiled in a relegation dogfight. Greetings HELGI ADALSTEINSSON Aalborg University email@example.com http://www.business.auc.dk/~helgi X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 05:01:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" Sender: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" From: "Philip O'Brien" Subject: Martin Edwards come on down!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Wednesday night brought up a lot of talk amongst the gang that were in my local pub Wednesday night. It seems the general concencous, at least with any Man U fans I have talked to, that Martin Edwards and the PLC are money grabbing bastards. Edwards is someone that wont change the wage structure so we can buy big name players like Ronaldo, Batistuta, Maldini etc etc etc. He wont give the manager the money to buy players at the start of the season, yet when it comes to the end of the season and a week before the transfer deadline, Fergie can have a blank check and buy who he wants. I'd say Martin Edwards shit his pants when the stock dropped Thursday, and I for one am glad in a way. I hope he lost a fortune. The PLC and Edwards have far too much of a grip on Fergie. He is one of the top managers in the world, yet his wages are only average. I wouldnt be surprised if some Italian or Spanish club fancied their chances of luring him away. We all know that he desperately wants the Euro Cup added to his resume. What would happens if Lippi leaves Juventus next year and goes to Barcelona. Juventus beg Fergie to come to them, as they have before, and offer him everything he needs to make his dream come true. Hmmm everyone will be flaming me saying how could I say these things and call myself a United fan. Fergie leaving Old Trafford, never, he is too loyal. Well loyal to Old Trafford and United he may be, but I dont think he has any loyalties to Edwards and the PLC. Even with a blank cheque its near the end of the season in most countries. Teams are either fighting for survival at the bottom or battling for the top honours. I dont think any team is going to let their top players leave now. I would love to see Zidane at Old Trafford. But he is happy where he is, besides, can you imagine Lippi saying, yes we are in the semi final of the European Cup. Lets sell one of our best players. I dont think so. Man U....6 pts ahead....+35GD.....Possible 21pts Arsenal..6 pts behind. .+21GD.....Possible 30pts May 10th News Headlines Manchester United win 5th title in 6 years by 4 pts. X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:58:06 -0600 Reply-To: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" Sender: "Manchester United Football Club (soccer)" From: Mike Keeley Subject: Giggs's big goals this year To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU The argument has been raised that missing Cantona, and the way that he could turn a draw to a win, and a loss into a draw, is staggering to our cause this year. While I will not disagree at all with that, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this yet - there have been some matches this year that our own Wizard has done some fine result-turning of his own: -Juventus (H) 3-2 Giggs 90th minute cancelled out Zidane's FK moments later, ensured a ManU win -Aston Villa (H) 1-0 Giggs sent through wonderfully by Andy -Tottenham (H) 2-0 Giggs only two goals of match, brilliant performance -Derby (H) 2-0 Giggs goal and set up a D(e/i)nnnnis pennnnalty conversion. Since he's gone down, we've taken 4 out of 12 pts in the League, and been knocked out of the FA and European Cup. Here's to our squad getting healthy ASAP! P.S. My hat's off to the noisemakers at OT... came over the satellite loud and clear. Well done! P.P.S. Updated remaining fixtures at http://tekka.wwa.com/~mkeeley/remain.html ________________ Mike Keeley Personal: firstname.lastname@example.org Business: email@example.com X-Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:56:25 -0800 From: john kellett Subject: HUCKERBY X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eris.web-plus.dk id TAA26338 Friday, March 20, 1998 Manchester United are attempting to sign Coventry City's £5 million-rated forward Darren Huckerby before next Thursday's deadline. Old Trafford manager Alex Ferguson made his move after the European Champions League exit against Monaco. He believes England B and Under 21 cap Huckerby could give his faltering side extra impetus in their attempt to land a fifth Premiership title in six years. Huckerby, who is 21, was snatched from Newcastle United for just £1m in November 1996 and has scored a string of spectacular solo goals this season. One of them came in the final minute against United in December and condemned the champions to a 3-2 defeat at Highfield Road. The deal could hinge on Coventry being able to persuade Dion Dublin to sign a new contract, which would tie the former United player to Highfield Road for the rest of his career. -- John Kellett cheers from the West coast of OZZ http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/1084/ Manchester United http://www.omen.com.au/~kellett/mal.html Alaskan malamutes X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:57:41 -0800 From: Barry Leeming Subject: The New Manchester United Museum X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eris.web-plus.dk id TAA26400 About 120 years ago the Newton Heath Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Cricket and Football Club was formed. As most United fans are aware, from these humble beginings evolved the modern Manchester United (the old Newton Heath name was dropped in 1902). This spring a new £4m museum commemorating United's proud history will be opened in the North Stand. Almost every document and record of the club will be installed in an archive room which will be open to the public. There will also be the Man-U-Net, a revolutionary computer archive facility which will enable users to search for information on any player who has represented the club, conduct a United general knowledge test and even design their own United kit. Other displays, which are spread over a massive three floor area, include an exhibition of United kit throughout the ages, a trophy room and a special area devoted to United's supporters. There will also be a special area devoted to the Munich disaster. In view of the number of school parties visiting Old Trafford the museum will contain a dedicated Education room. The reason for the re-development was that the original museum, which was opened in 1986, had become a victim of its own success. In its first year it catered for 26,137 visitors; by 1996 this figure had increased to a massive 190,707 The club is always keen to hear from individuals who may have items relating to individual players' careers, pre World War Two first team and reserve programmes and youth team material. If you have any items which you would be willing to loan or donate contact either Mark Wylie or Zoe Makinson on 0161 930 2904. The museum will be official opened by Pele on 11th April and thereafter will be open every day from 9.30am to 9.00pm in the summer, and 9.30am to 5.00pm in the winter. Enquiries & Tours: 0161 877 4002 It's hard to believe that a players' strike over union membership threatened the whole future of Manchester United. Without a team to start the new season, the Club looked set to fold. At the last minute, the F.A. gave in, the players remained in the union and the Club moved into the new stadium at Old Trafford. The following season, 1910-11, we walked away with the League Championship. The rest, as they say, is history. At our new Museum and Tour Centre, you can discover how the hopes and dreams of countless players and fans have made the Club what it is today. On a behind-the-scenes tour, you'll see there's more to us than just football. Fans of all ages will relish the chance to sit in Giggs' seat in the dressing room, be dazzled by our vast trophy collection and soak up the atmosphere of the world's favourite football club. We're open every day from 11 April 1998, from 9.30am-9.00pm (last tour 4.30pm). Book now and see why Old Trafford is called the Theatre of Dreams. It's more than a day out, it's a trip to the heart of United. And these days, the only strikers you'll find are on the pitch. 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