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Date: Thu Oct 15 06:17:09 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. Mixed News by EUFA
2. ROY'S KEANE TO MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME
3. E-mail assitance
4. History of Manchester United Part 2 1894
5. UNCONVINCING ENGLAND FAIL TO SILENCE THE CRITICS
6. Info required on Sky subscription charges - important
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Daily RED Trivia Thu 15th October:
15th Oct 1892: Newton Heath register their first League victory in their history with a
crushing 10-1 win against Wolverhampton Wanderers at North Road watched by 4,000. Bob
Donaldson 3, Willie Stewart 3, Adam Carson, Alf Farman, James Hendry and
Billy Hood shared the goals. Team was: Warner, Mitchell, Clements, Perrins,
Stewart, Erentz, Farman, Hood, Donaldson, Carson, Hendry.
15th Oct 1971: Andy Cole born in Nottingham. Cole cost £7 Million from Newcastle United
and made his United debut against Blackburn Rovers in January 1995. He scored
5 goals in a game against Ipswich Town in March 1995. A prolific goalscorer,
he won Premiership medals in 1996 and 1997, and an FA Cup winners medal in
1996. Cole has scored 58 goals in 143 appearances for the Reds, and has won
2 caps for England.
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Barry Daily Comment:
David Beckham had a good comeback for England last night although
the team was lacking in firing power up front. Report follows.
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Next 4 games:
Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
Sat 17/10 Wimbledon (H) PL
Wed 21/10 Brondby (A) CL
Sat 24/10 Derby (A) PL
Wed 28/10 Bury (H) LC (Worthington Cup)
UNITED Stats v Wimbledon are here:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vswimbledon.htm
*** PL TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
Champions league: Next Match
Barcelona 2 Brondby 0 Brondby v Man Utd 21/10
Bayern Munich 2 Man Utd 2
GROUP D P W D L GF GA PTS
Barcelona 2 1 1 0 5 3 4
Brĝndby 2 1 0 1 2 3 3
ManUnited 2 0 2 0 5 5 2
BMünchen 2 0 1 1 3 4 1
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Thursday 15 October1998
Subject: Mixed News by EUFA
MANCHESTER UNITED have been given some mixed news by UEFA
ahead of their Champions League tie
with Brondby. United will be without midfielder
Nicky Butt for next week's clash in Denmark
after he was hit by a two-match ban, but
manager Alex Ferguson has escaped scot free
over his outburst against referee Stefano Braschi
following last month's draw against Barcelona.
Butt missed United's last match against Bayern
Munich following his red card for handball against
Barcelona and now UEFA has ruled that he is
suspended for another game. The Red Devils
are already without David Beckham, who is
also banned after picking up his second yellow
card, while goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel is
struggling to recover from a stomach muscle
injury. Ferguson could have been fined or hit
with a touchline ban after his verbal attack
on the Italian official, who awarded Barcelona
two penalties and sent off Butt, but the
disciplinary committee has decided not to take
any action against the Scot.
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Wednesday 14 October 1998
Subject: ROY'S KEANE TO MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME
Roy Keane has a chilling warning for the minnows of Malta ahead of their
Euro 2000 qualifier in Dublin. The Republic of Ireland and
Manchester United captain says: "I'm just about back to my best again -
but you haven't seen the best of this Irish side yet."
Keane, famed for his dynamic midfield qualities but infamous for a hot
temper that has landed him with a rash of red and yellow cards, insists
his wild days are behind him.
When he came back from nine months out with a severe knee injury caused
by his own reckless tackle in a Premiership clash with Leeds United,
he inspired the Republic to a glorious 2-0 win over World
Cup semi-finalists Croatia in the game of the European campaign a month
ago.
He was on target as well with the crucial second goal and was named man
of the match, but Keane said: "Even though people gave myself and Mark
Kinsella a lot of praise for our performance in midfield
, I thought it was just, well, all right.
"It was a great result but I know there's a lot of improvement to come
in the team because we gave Croatia too many chances which they might
have taken on another day.
"It was always going to take me a while to be back to full tilt after
the injury but I've spoken about it with Alex Ferguson and Brian Kidd at
Old Trafford and we felt it would be about October befor
e I was really back on my game. Hopefully, it is panning out that
way.
"Now I feel really fresh - especially after we had a week off when the game
in Yugoslavia was called off. "We were all looking forward to it
after beating Croatia but perhaps things have worked out in our favour.
"Hopefully, that game will go ahead next month and if things go to plan
we'll go into it with maximum points from the first two home games and
feeling even more confident."
Thurs morning 15/10 RESULT: Republic of Ireland 5 Malta 0
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Subject: E-mail assitance
Dear all
At the moment we need to get our message out to more people and get
more responses to our requests to send letters faxes etc etc.
All of you on the list below have either helped, offered to help, or
have made an indication by their postings to the list, that they want
to spend a little more time helping the campaign via the web. It would
be a help if each of you below could either subscribe to another club's
mail list or find a contact on that to put out our appeals for contact
(fax Mandelson, OFT, DTI) etc, to keep those supporters better informed
and to boost response.
At the moment for example we need to urge supporters from all all clubs
to contact their MP, Mandelson and the OFT (still) with their concerns
too.
I know 'joining' another club's list is a tough call(!) But to make
that burden a little easier, I know dan@u.washington.edu,Internet is a
Liverpool supporter and is on their List (Pause to allow abusive
"Charlie Charlie What's the score" type e-mails to be written!)
There are more than enough people to join the list of the Premiership's
clubs, as well as some first, second (City!) and Scottish clubs.
If anybody below has requisite language skills perhaps some European
clubs' lists can be joined.
If you are able to put the odd mail out on these lists then reply just
to me, and I'll assign a club - purely to keep things simple, if you
have a preference (eg you know a contact who can be relied on to
forward messages, language skills etc) then indicate that, and I will
do my best.
Then its just a case of forwarding on any information you think is
relevant together with the occasional "Call to arms" and update. Most
clubs have been helpful, so I doubt they'll be too many abusive replies.
We also need to get chapter and verse on how European clubs are run esp
Barca, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. This includes trying to find a
contact we can call/ e-mail/ telephone direct. There IS a reason for
this. Should anyone be able to spend a couple of hours surfing to this
end then go ahead....
I hope no-one sees this e-mail as me trying to boss people about.
Those on the list below (plus no doubt some others who I have missed)
have in some way offered to help. Managing the human Net resource is
something we've tried to steer clear of, for fear of looking like we're
giving orders. However enough people have said "I want to do something
more" or "We need leadership" to suggest offense won't be taken. If
commitmnents etc mean you are unable to contribute at the moment than
just ignore this mail, I will adjust the list accordingly. There are
other more specific and time consuming tasks that we need some help
with, again if you want to get involved with those then contact me or
Duncan direct.
The campaign is going very well, everybody is very confident that a
referral is imminent, provided pressure can be maintained.
Thanks for you help
Nick
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Subject: History of Manchester United Part 2 1894
1894 didn't bring much joy to the Club nicknamed the Heathens, after just
escaping relegation the previous season, there was to be no such luck in
1894. The club finished rock bottom of the league for the second season in
a row after only winning six of their 30 matches. Again the football
league operated a playoff to decide the relegation/promotion situation and
this time it was Liverpool who provided the opposition.
The Merseyside club had only been in existence for two years and that
year had topped the second Div without losing a single match. They were the
out and out favorites to win the match and true to form they ran out two
goal winners in a match played at Blackburn in front of 6,000 fans.
1894 was notable for one other important match in our history, it was the
first year the Manchester derby was played. It was not the first time the
two clubs had met however having played each other many times in Manchester
Cup and FA Cup ties, and even had faced each other in Football Alliance
league play, but this was to be the first official Football league meeting
of the two Manchester teams.
The match was played at Ardwick (Hyde Road) which was City's home
ground and drew a crowd of 15,000 which was the largest crowd to have
watched a match in Manchester (excepting the 1893 Cup final which had been
held at Fallowfield) The Heathens made short work of the City side and ran
away with a 5-2 victory, the return match Newton Heath beat City again 4-1.
The first match marked the debut of a player who was to go down in history
as one of the greatest player in both clubs history, Billy Meredith played
for City that day, but in later years he was to don the red shirt of
Manchester United and cover himself in glory.
To be continued
DA
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Subject: UNCONVINCING ENGLAND FAIL TO SILENCE THE CRITICS
GROUP 5: LUXEMBOURG 0 ENGLAND 3
P W D L F A Pts
Poland 2 2 0 0 6 0 6
Sweden 2 2 0 0 3 1 6
England 3 1 1 1 2 2 4
Bulgaria 3 0 1 2 0 4 1
Luxembourg 2 0 0 2 0 5 0
ENGLAND skipper Alan Shearer joined the country's
elite goalscorers in Luxembourg but that was about
the only thing the fans had to cheer on another
bitterly disappointing night. Although Glenn
Hoddle's side got the three points they desperately
needed, it was far from a convincing display and the
scoreline was only given a respectable look thanks
to Gareth Southgate's 87th minute goal.
Shearer made no mistake from the penalty spot six
minutes before half-time and his 22nd goal for
England took him to 10th place in the all-time list of
scorers, ahead of Kevin Keegan and Mick Channon.
But for long periods of the match, his team lacked
drive and urgency and the fans grew restless long
before the final whistle and made their feelings
clear with a chorus of boos and jeers.
Shearer's strike partner Michael Owen had broken
the deadlock after 19 minutes, but only after
England had been given a massive let-off after
when Danny Theis shot over the bar from the
penalty shot. Only five minutes and 17 seconds had
gone when Gareth Southgate tried to head a long
ball forward back to David Seaman but it fell
woefully short. Christophe Marcel pounced and
Seaman brought him down just inside the penalty
area as memories of the horror start in San Marino
came back to haunt England. Greek referee Sotiris
Vorgias pointed instantly to the spot but Theis
wasted his chance of glory by firing yards over the
bar.
England, predictably, had made most of the early
running and Luxembourg keeper Paul Koch needed
two attempts to hold onto a low drive from Darren
Anderton in the wet conditions. Anderton was
preferred in the wide role with Beckham playing
just inside him - the combination that had
performed so well in the latter stages of the World
Cup. And it was Beckham who had the first clear
chance for England when he picked up on a loose
ball and lashed it goalwards, only for Koch to turn it
away.
The Manchester United man's resultant corner was
headed across goal by Rio Ferdinand, who pushed
up into midfield after being unemployed in a back
three, but neither Southgate nor Owen were able
to apply the finishing touch. However, after 19
minutes England got the breakthrough they
desperately needed, courtesy of Owen.
Beckham and Anderton were involved in the
build-up before the latter threaded a pass into the
path of Owen. The Liverpool hitman coolly slipped
the ball past Koch before clipping home a
right-footed shot from a narrow angle for his fourth
goal for his country.
Just a minute later, Beckham marked his return
from suspension by picking up the first yellow card
of the game for handling the ball as he tried to go
past a Luxembourg defender. That sort of needless
caution will do nothing to endear the Old Trafford
star to his international manager.
But even after the initial breakthrough England
struggled to make much of an impact in front of
goal. Koch turned away a powerful cross from
Beckham at full stretch, Anderton sliced a shot well
wide and Beckham then curled a free-kick from a
promising position well over the bar.
Luxembourg were offering nothing as an attacking
threat, although Seaman made a hash of holding on
to a dipping 30-yard effort from Frank De Ville and
was relieved that no other home player was
following up. But England gave themselves some
much needed breathing space six minutes before
the interval through a penalty from Shearer, who
previously had not had a sniff of a chance.
Anderton's chip into the area was handled by Theis,
the player who had earlier missed his own spot kick.
There was no such disaster for Shearer who
stepped up confidently to drill his shot into the
left-hand corner of the net even though Koch
guessed the right way.
The second half began in quiet fashion with the
sting having been taken out of proceedings after
Shearer's goal just before the interval, although
there was a burst of action, albeit brief, when
Owen surged towards the Luxembourg box only to
be brought down on the edge by Strasser. But
Beckham again disappointed with the free-kick,
drilling his shot straight into the defensive wall.
In the 63rd minute, Hoddle made his first change of
the evening, bringing off Anderton, who again
looked less than fully fit, and replacing him with
Robert Lee. But still there was little to enthuse
about in England's performance despite all their
territorial advantage and they seemed content with
their two-goal lead while the fans spasmodically
chanted ''boring, boring, Hoddle''. Beckham got
into a threatening position on the right flank but
when his eventual cross found Shearer, his
downward header was comfortably saved by Koch.
Ian Wright was brought into the action 14 minutes
from time to try and inject some urgency into
England's play but the crowd were becoming
increasingly frustrated with the performance of
Hoddle's side. The play in Luxembourg, judging
from the chants in the terraces, had done little to
appease the supporters after Saturday's poor
showing against Bulgaria. The whole debacle was
epitomised by Beckham's corner three minutes
from time. It flew 20 yards up into the air and was
heading towards the far touchline when Neville
scrambled to keep it in play nearer the halfway line
than the goal. And Beckham is England's dead-ball
expert!
In injury time, England regained a little lost pride
with Southgate claiming his first international goal.
At last Neville delivered a quality centre from the
left, Southgate mistimed his header but the Aston
Villa defender made no mistake rifling home from
close range when the ball bounced backl off Sol
Campbell. Although that late goal makes the
scoreline look a little healthier it will have done
nothing to convince his doubters that Hoddle is on
the right road towards Euro 2000.
Luxembourg: Koch, Feron, Funck, L. Deville,
Strasser, Saibene, Theis (Holtz 60), F. Deville,
Christophe (Amodio), Cardoni, Posing. Subs not
used: Felgen, Beffort, Fernandes, Alverdi, Thill,
England: Seaman, Ferdinand, P. Neville, Batty,
Campbell, Southgate, Beckham, Anderton (Lee 63),
Shearer, Owen, Scholes (Wright 76). Subs not
used: Keown, Flowers, G. Neville, Butt, Dublin.
Referee: S Vorgias (Greece)
GROUP 5: BULGARIA 0 SWEDEN 1
Although England's unconvincing victory in
Luxembourg was not the scoreline the country
wanted last night, the worst result of the night for
Glenn Hoddle came in Bulgaria where Sweden won
1-0, thanks to 62nd minute goals from Celtic's
Henrik Larsson. His strike, set up by Arsenal's
Fredrik Ljungberg, allowed the Swedes to go level
with Poland as joint group leaders. Both sides have
won their opening two fixtures and lead England by
two points with a game in hand.
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Subject: Info required on Sky subscription charges - important
Please could anyone who has the details of the Sky TV subscription charges
for Live football post the information to this list. It is important as I
want to get the facts right.
This is my information but it may be slightly incorrect and I don't have any
dates (not essential):
When they first offered live League football it was free for Sky's
subscribers, as it had been previously on ITV/BBC. Then they charged 2.99
per month, then 7.99 and now you can only get the football as part of a
bundle for 30.00 per month - 360 pounds a year. This is 4 times your TV
license fee! How do you think they will treat football fans once they have
the monopoly ownership of their club?
Thanks for your cooperation.
Duncan
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