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Date: Tue Oct 13 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. Personal "The Trip Diary" Part one
2. Giggs out again for Wales ««
3. Takeover News
4. Peter Schmeichel New injury setback ««
5. BSkyB helpline
6. Beckham can Spice it up
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Daily RED Trivia Tues 13th October:
13th Oct 1934: United beat Oldham Athletic 4-0 at Old Trafford in a Division 2 game
watched by 29,143. Tom Manley 2, Bill McKay and George Mutch scored the
goals. Team was: Hacking, Griffiths, T.Jones, Robertson, Vose, Manley, TJ.Jones,
Mutch, Hine, McKay, Owen.
13th Oct 1984: United beat West Ham United 5-1 at Old Trafford with goals from Alan
Brazil, Mark Hughes, Gordon McQueen, Remi Moses and Gordon Strachan.
The Division 1 game was watched by 47,559. Team was: Bailey, Duxbury,
Albiston, Moses, McQueen, Hogg, Robson, Strachan, Hughes, Brazil, Olsen.
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Barry Daily Comment:
Our first article today recreates the atmosphere of visiting and supporting
the "REDS". Hope you enjoy it, part one, more to come, enjoy!
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Next 4 games:
Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
Sat 17/10 Wimbledon (H) PL
Wed 21/10 Brondby (A) CL
Sat 24/10 Derby (A) PL
Wed 28/10 Bury (H) LC (Worthington Cup)
UNITED Stats v Wimbledon are here:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vswimbledon.htm
*** PL TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
Champions league:
Barcelona 2 Brondby 0
Bayern Munich 2 Man Utd 2
GROUP D P W D L GF GA PTS
Barcelona 2 1 1 0 5 3 4
Brøndby 2 1 0 1 2 3 3
ManUnited 2 0 2 0 5 5 2
BMünchen 2 0 1 1 3 4 1
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:05:19 -0400
From: Sean Hennessey
Subject: Personal "The Trip Diary" Part one
This story can be seen in multi-media at
http://www.red11.org/mufc/sean98.htm
Hi Everybody,
This is rather long, but I wanted to include up to the match at Highbury
to have some serious United and list content. It also includes some
slightly related annecdotes, so be warned. I finally wrote something
sober, so it should make a little sense, but I mak-a no promises... :)
More to come later, but if the first three days is this long, this could
become a novel. Maybe I should ask Hoddle for some publishing tips? :) :)
tara - Sean
*****************Here lies the monster****************
I arrived in London about half 10, Thursday night, after over 12 spent in
transit (including the obligatory waits at airports for transfers, etc.),
nearly dead to the world. The previous night had been spent packing,
drinking in a pub with the flatmate ( his farewell present, why did
everyone expect me not to come back? :-) , and ultimately whiling the
entire night (and nerves) away playing Fifa '98, watching Super Friends on
the Cartoon Network, and drinking copious amounts of Belhaven. Never the
most g lorious of travellers, the nights awake (and pissed) had the proper
affect of making me sleep most of the trip - including before take-off and
to the gate from Boston to Newark.
After my usual session at Customs (this time a problem with the various
spellings of my surname on my official documents, I blame by
great-grandfather who spelled it Henisse to avoid Irish persecution over
here - it didn't work, and it made a nightmare fo r me and my dad, who
spell it sort of properly, but I digress), I made my way, via a quick and
desperate fag break (since when did they ban smoking on international
flights?!?), to Victoria Station, where I was met by two of my best
friends on the face, S ean 'Humph' Humphreys and fiancé Fiona 'Not that
one' Fullerton. Much ABU flew as the West Ham supporting (though she
doesn't really care - it's her birthright) Fi locked eyes on my Eric
tattoo. The frequent anti-United jokes aside, we had a rather unev entful
evening until I was unceremoniously deposited on an air mattress in their
sitting room, where I whiled the rest of the night sneaking out onto the
landing for ciggies, or being used as a brand new toy by their 3 cats,
none named Eric I was upset to discover...
Friday:
Looked about my old haunts with Humph, mainly guitar shops on
Denmark Street, a few record shops down Berwick St, and to a new
used-computer gear shop, where I finally purchased Premiership Manager 98
(I'm crap, Fergie, your job is safe) and Actua -Soccer 2. In between,
Humph graciously showed me to a nice footy gear place, where I had a
lovely chat with a man who was looking forward to his pay-packet so he
could buy his 150th jersey! And I thought I was bad! He explained to me
that he'd have to get the Newcastle as he liked the design, but would
never buy United because he thinks Umbro's designs are crap... Later that
evening Humph and Fi surprised me by bringing me to a photography exhibit
opening. Me - a blatant ignorant bastard, wearing my Keano/Guiness shirt,
covered in footy tattoos, and desperate for a proper piss-up, in a opening
surrounded by the cream of the artistic intellegencia! I spent my time
with my one Becks (the bar went dry as I went in search of a second)
looking about for someone famous, and trying to look intelligent. Humph
gave me one good tip - just talk rubbish and they'll take you seriously,
that's what they're all doing. So I spent my time practising talking
rubbish to the wall until we were kicked out and went to a pub, cue
serious drinking...
Saturday:
Watched the first two series of Game On between late Friday
night and today, a good accomplishment I'd say, then off to meet the first
of our United list members, Wendy Lyon, a lovely woman who'd been spending
her time in Scotland watching her other love, Celtic, before going to the
Barcelona match and eventually ending up in a pub with me, Humph and Fi.
Wendy was brilliant to talk football to - something I was seriously
missing staying with the footy-hating Humph - and was even kind enough to
bring me a Hibernian jersey. A few rounds preceded her arrival, many more
after, and upon closing the place, we went of on a trek to find a decent
club (all the one's I used to frequent are either closed or now doing posh
shite!) and a place to use the toilet. Finding both, in different
orders, we settled in the smallest 'indie' club in the world and preceded
to drink it dry. No Boddingtons, unfortunately, but there you are. After
eventually, and rather wobbly (I finally got pissed this night!) seeing
Wendy to her night bus, we buggered off to Humph's and I got the few hour
sleep on the air mattress before the 'Big Meet'.
Sunday: Got up with difficulty but woke up after the shower and I was off
to meet Paul Windridge at Holloway Road station. Got there a half an hour
early, so I spent the time reading, smoking many fags, and watching the
many slap-headed men walking about until one came on the horizon bobbling
up and down appropriately, and with my previous gen of Paul, I guessed
rightly that that was he. With him was Richard M., who was to drive us
back to Paul's later. Richard greeted me warmly and pissed off to meet
his girlfriend, so Paul and I took hold of his keys (or electronic things
as far as I could tell), and legged it off to his car to stash my
million-ton bag in the boot before we met up with Mick Meade and a couple
of friendly gooners at an Irish pub Mick quite likes.
I have to register my complaint at all of you lot having the indecency of
being so damn tall! Between Paul, Mick, and Richard, I was starting to
feel like Tattoo from Fantasy Island, and Mick's patting my on the gut and
asking where that came from (drink , where else you Big Daft Sod) didn't
help. Mick had previously given me the nickname (over the phone no less)
of the Ugly Fat Bastard, so I don't know where his surprise was from. The
truth hurts... I was quickly calmed when a pint of Boddingtons and my
match ticket was placed in my hands, and we passed an enjoyable pre-match
afternoon drinking and chattering about the state of football, the lunatic
known as Murdoch, just what in the hell a Yank like me was doing
supporting United, etc.
Eventually we made our way toward Highbury, with a quick stop at another
pub for a quick one and a rallying of the forces. Walking toward the
match I was slowly being overcome with the reality of my situation, that I
was finally back in England and on my way to support our lads. I was
literally shaking with nervous energy when Paul and Mick and I forced our
way inside, into the crammed toilets, and back out to name a corner for
meeting in at half time.
Mick and I found our seats, I can't remember the block, but to the left
side of the away section, a few seats in from the isle, and we stood there
for the remainder of the half. I can't describe what it was like watching
the lads come out to warm up, and it fully hit me when Keano ran towards
us. I can't describe what it was like when the song started up in full
voice. In fact, I can't describe the football at all in detail, as it all
just blurred into one awful and amazing grey. We were in great voice to
start, and the highlight of the songs being the new 'There's only one
Arsene Wenger' (to Walking in a Winter Wonderland):
There's only one Arsene Wenger x3
A packet of sweets and a cheeky smile
Wenger is a f**king pedophile
What little I can remember is that we looked awful. Later I would here
someone complain that he'd never seen us so bad, that we looked better in
the drubbing against Newcastle. I just blamed it on myself (and so did
Paul, calling me a jinx...:). Henning Berg looked awful, I hate to say,
our defence was shite. What I can remember is that Blomqvist looked ok,
running with the ball, but couldn't complete a proper cross, Becks looked
the only player really trying (he looked good really), and Giggsy was
absolutely out of place and ineffectual playing upfront. Sadly, this was to
be the last I saw of our Giggsy this trip...
At the half, we piled out, not quite beaten thoroughly yet, and I was
treated to meeting the infamous Alan Dobson (who was kind enough to keep
the sausages hidden and flatulance free), who was looking rather worse the
wear for what turned out to be a footy injury - he'd had his leg opened
up by someone's studs (the ones on the boots, so no sick comments). I met
a few others, but honestly I was so emotionally hyped up that I can't
remember the names, I'm sorry! After a chatter we made our way up to
where Paul was 'seated' and I was privilidged to meet the wonderful,
lovely Linda, not to mention the son and hier! Linda greeted me with a
hug which made me feel well and truly back at home, and we chatted until
the lads returned to the pitch. We'd decided to remain up with Linda and
Paul, so we turned our attention back to the match. Shortly after, Nicky
Butt was unlucky to get his second red card in two matches, this time for
what I will say from being right in front of him, was never a red card.
It almost looked like he tripped (though from subsequent video replays, I
will say he was going for it and probably deserved a yellow). This
created a stir from all the standing Reds (frankly, all of us) and the
entire crowd crushed forwards, all of us scream ing abuse at the ref, and
me being flung down a few steps, only remaining upright by holding onto,
and I think tearing, the shirt of another fellow list member who's name
I've lost again (I'm so sorry, bide with me, I've the recall of a piece of
wood).
The crush forward caught the attentions of the police who were walking up
and down the steps chucking out Reds and checking on tickets for seat
placements. We all crushed into the seats to avoid being checked, but I
wasn't able to get in far enough, and I was sent off to my proper seats
while Mick escaped notice (how they missed his giant bulk I'll never
know). So, I spent the remainder of the match, head firmly in hands, near
tears at times, by myself until just before time Mick came back to collect
me. By this point the Reds were deadly silent, and at the whistle, we
headed off.
Making our way out the ground we met up again with Dobson and a few
others, and eventually found ourselves outside and hollering abuse at the
people daft enough to try and drive through when they knew full well that
a big match was on. After we rounded the corner, it went off a bit,
though all I could see (Paul kept me back) was the police running forward,
as inneffectual as usual.
We made our way back to the Irish pub, where Paul, Richard and I parted
from Mick and his rather cheerful gooner mates and piled in the car for
the long trip back to Leamington Spa, where Paul lives and I was staying.
Emotion gave way to exhaustion, and I passed out in the car, waking just a
few minutes from Paul's. Once in, Paul fed me (my first food of the day),
and showed me to my room. After being introduced to Paul's lovely wife
Karen, some talk, a little telly, and a guided tour, I was off to bed ,
and dead to the world.
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Sean Hennessey, President of Boston Reds,
http://members.tripod.com/~boston_reds/
Member and co-admin of the Red Devils list: red-devils@pipeline.com
e-mail: suggs@tiac.net or giggs@tiac.net ICQ: 9288628
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Subject: Takeover News
I just spoke with the media relations officer of the PL and asked why we
had seen nothing in the media from the PL condemning the bid. The officer
(whose name I didn't get) said that you are partially correct, Adam. He
squirmed a lot and avoided a lot of questions but I kept it cordial and
spoke with him for 20 minutes or so. He said that the PL was a
representative of ALL the PL teams and United are one of the members. To
say that they were 100% against it, would therefore not be accurate! He did
concede though that you are right about not wanting to alienate United.
Anyway, they have submitted something to the OFT. He recommended that we,
the fans, fax/mail Peter Leaver telling him we are worried by his silence.
If he gets enough heat, maybe he will make some kind of statement. But
ultimately the PL does not claim to represent the fans, or even the good of
football, they merely represent their members. The fax number I was given
is different from the one Adam gives below. I do not know which is correct
but maybe one is to the PL and one is direct to Leaver's office. Anyway, I
was told to fax to 0171 298 1602. Anyone know how we email to this fax
number? I will try later to speak with Leaver himself.
It was good to see so many people today outside the BSkyB offices in
Manchester. I think we should have a symbolic gesture every day. Maybe a 24
hour protest outside OT on Friday or Saturday - with a large banner and all
that. More burning of offers, Effigies of Murdoch, sit ins, streakers, etc
etc etc.
Dave
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Subject: Peter Schmeichel New injury setback ««
Peter Schmeichel has reportedly flown back to Manchester with some bad news
for Alex Ferguson: the Great Dane is struggling to be fit for next week's
Champions' League clash with Brondby.
Schmeichel was hoping to make an earlier than expected comeback from his
stomach muscle injury when Denmark travel to Switzerland this Wednesday.
But, after watching from the sidelines as Denmark slumped to a shock 2-1
defeat to Wales on Saturday, he has been forced to return to Old Trafford
for further treatment.
Raimond van der Gouw could again be on call for the home match against
Wimbledon on Saturday while Schmeichel sets his sights on the return to his
former club Brondby four days later.
The 35-year-old Dane said: "I'm going back to Manchester to be treated by
the club. I doubt whether I can play at the weekend."
Brondby were the club which sold Schmeichel to United in 1991 and the
keeper still maintains strong links with them.
He is a regular guest at Brondby games whenever he is back in Denmark and
he played against them recently, during the club's recent pre-season tour
of Scandanavia.
He has said Brondby is one of the few Danish clubs he would consider
coaching if he was to turn to management at the end of his playing days.
Schmeichel and his family plan to settle in Denmark when he retires and he
says he would only consider a coaching position if it was with a club who
had a chance of playing in Europe regularly.
Giggs, Beckham back in action ««
Ryan Giggs and David Beckham return from their enforced international
breaks on Wednesday in another big night of European Championship
qualifying action.
Giggs is expected to play for Wales against Belarus after recovering from
the foot injury which kept him out for the last three weeks, perfect
build-up to the weekend and subsequent trip to Copenhagen in the Champions'
League.
Beckham returns after suspension for the trip to Luxembourg as beleagured
England coach pins his faith on a player who he reportedly belittled and
exposed during the World Cup.
Transfer round-up ««
United target Richard Cresswell gave watching scouts a five-star
performance to report as York City drew 3-3 with Luton on Saturday.
The 20-year-old striker grabbed two goals and set up another with a
cracking drive in a man-of-the-match performance.
Cresswell, a close friend of United's Jon Greening, has scored seven goals
so far this season which has alerted a host Premiership clubs - including
United.
Philip Mulryne has turned down the chance to go to Blackpool on loan in
order to stay at United and play in the Worthington Cup.
The young Northern Ireland midfielder attracted the interest of compatriot
Nigel Worthington who made an enquiry to ask if he could take the United
reserve on loan.
However, Mulryne wants to play in the Worthington Cup clash with Bury later
this month and stake a claim for a first-team call-up.
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Subject: BSkyB helpline
BSkyB have put up a helpline for shareholders who are not sure how to accept
the offer. Unsurprisingly there does not seem to be any mention of the fact
that you can, and should (IMHO), reject this offer by ignoring it.
I have tried to phone them on their freephone number on numerous occasions
but have been unable to get through so far.
If anyone else would like to call them on 0800 783 9323 I'm sure they'd be
delighted to hear from (all of ) you. I've tried faxing them on this number
too but it doesn't seem to have fax recognition software on this line -
still it may work for you and they have been kind enough to supply a toll
free number haven't they. Maybe this is a sign of the caring new owner we'll
have if the bid goes through ;-)
Maybe they'll start reducing prices for tickets and Sky TV subscriptions and
start taking money out of other businesses and putting it into Utd's
transfer fund and supporter facilities etc.
And maybe politicians will stop lying, the Pope will become a protestant and
bears will start using public lavatories instead of messing up our
woodlands. Ooh look - there's an aeropig.
If you can't get through now you can always try later - or over the next few
days.
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Subject: Beckham can Spice it up
David Beckham returns to the international stage this
week for the first time since his World Cup
sending-off with England crying out for inspiration
from midfield after the woeful performance against
Bulgaria.
After their defeat in Sweden last month, Glenn
Hoddle's side simply have to win their next fixture in
Luxembourg on Wednesday to revive their fading
chances of qualifying for the Euro 2000 finals.
Tony Adams, who missed the match against Bulgaria
with a back injury, will not be travelling with the side
today as he has not recovered in time.
Creativity
Andy Hinchcliffe is also doubtful with a groin injury,
while Paul Ince is still suspended after his red card in
Sweden and now Jamie Redknapp has become the
latest player to pick up a ban after his second yellow
card of the campaign at Wembley.
Yet at least Beckham is available for selection again
after serving his own two-match suspension for
kicking Diego Simeone during the World Cup defeat
against Argentina.
And he could offer the creativity from midfield that
was so patently lacking on Saturday.
Hoddle said: "Jamie is now suspended but David
comes back into the frame and his talents have been
missed.
"However, Saturday's match was not about the
players missing it was about the players out there and
we didn't deserve to win the game on the
performance."
Hoddle admits that England cannot now afford to
lose another qualifying game, with Poland topping the
group with six points after defeating Luxembourg 3-0
on Saturday night, and Sweden now travelling to
Bulgaria.
Yet he insists he is relishing the chance for the team
to bounce back immediately against Luxembourg, a
side largely made up of amateurs that have won just
three times in 63 matches since 1985.
"Sometimes it's been a concern when you've had five
or six weeks before the next game yet this time we
can bounce back quicker," said Hoddle, his positive
outlook as strongly entrenched as ever.
He added: "There's still enough time and matches to
qualify from this group.
"I understand there's going to be criticism when we
don't win matches, it was fully justified against
Bulgaria without a doubt, we're not hiding from that
fact."
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