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www.red11.org DAILY NEWS
Date: Mon Oct 12 07:58:27 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org

This Issue:
1. Survey Results from www.red11.org / ** IMPORTANT: NEW URL **
2. Dwight Yorke "speaks out"
3. Manchester United are being linked with Everton fullback Michael Ball.
4. Share Offer Rejection "Meeting"  outside BSkyB's offices 
6. Sir Matt Busby "Reminders Of A Great Man"
7. Manchester United goalie to miss upcoming Switzerland match
8. England look to Beckham for salvation 


Daily RED Trivia  Mon 12th October:

12th Oct 1907: George Stacey made his debut against Newcastle United. The powerful Full-back
was signed from Barnsley for £200 and in his first season won a League Championship
medal. Another followed in 1911 and he also won an FA Cup Winners medal in 1909.
267 appearances and 9 goals between 1907-19.

12th Oct 1985: United beat Queens Park Rangers 2-0 at Old Trafford in a Division 1 game
watched by 48,845. Mark Hughes and Jesper Olsen scored for the Reds. Team was:
Bailey, Duxbury, Albiston, Whiteside, McGrath, Moran, Robson, Olsen, Hughes,
Stapleton, Barnes.

Barry Daily Comment:  	NEWSPAPERS!

Saturday Headline:
Time for Redknapp to strike and leave Beckham eating his heart
                                       SoccerNet 01:10 10-Oct-98 
Sunday Headline!
England look to Beckham for salvation  SportsWeb 12:15 11-Oct-98 

Next 4 games: 
Result/Fixture Index:

Sat 17/10 Wimbledon   (H) PL
Wed 21/10 Brondby     (A) CL
Sat 24/10 Derby       (A) PL
Wed 28/10 Bury        (H) LC (Worthington Cup)

UNITED Stats v Wimbledon are here:


Date        Opposition                        Score   Pos.   Attend.
15/08/98    Leicester City           Home     D  2-2    11    55,052
22/08/98    West Ham United          Away     D  0-0    11    26,039
09/09/98    Charlton Athletic        Home     W  4-1     9    55,147
12/09/98    Coventry City            Home     W  2-0     5    55,193
20/09/98    Arsenal                  Away     L  0-3    10    38,142
24/09/98    Liverpool                Home     W  2-0     3    55,181
03/10/98    Southampton              Away     W  3-0     2    15,251

Champions league:
Barcelona     2 Brondby 0
Bayern Munich 2 Man Utd 2

Barcelona   2 1 1 0  5  3     4
Brøndby     2 1 0 1  2  3     3
ManUnited   2 0 2 0  5  5     2
BMünchen    2 0 1 1  3  4     1


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Subject: Survey Results from www.red11.org / ** IMPORTANT: NEW URL ** Results from www.red11.org Survey #21: ------------------------------------------- Q: Which trophy are UNITED most likely to win this season? European Cup: 24 20% FA Cup: 11 9% League Cup: 6 5% Premiership 80 66% * Total: 121 voted Barry Comment: A clear message from 121 REDS, Manchester Ubnited are perhaps good enough to win the Premiership as a massive 66% voted for a home victory. Only 20% voted for the BIG ONE. The European Cup must now be Alex Ferguson's priority as it is 30 years ago that the club last won this coveted trophy. I say personally fingers crossed ...IF we can pass the preliminary task of this 3 B's Super Group: "Bayern Barcelona Brondby" then we can go all the way! :) New Survey Question: **IMPORTANT** NEW URL: please vote here http://www.red11.org/miva/survey.mv ------------------------------------------ Q: IF UNITED buy a long term replacement for Schmeichel, which keeper would you prefer? Mark Bosnich (Aston Villa) Mark Schwarzer (Middlesbrough) Richard Wright (Ipswich) Other
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Subject: Dwight Yorke "speaks out" MANCHESTER UNITED striker Dwight Yorke has spoken of the ''disappointment'' he felt when he read the comments of former boss John Gregory after his £12.6million switch from Aston Villa. Yorke said: "When I read in the papers the next day that if he'd had a gun he would have shot me, I was stunned. My decision was nothing to do with the new manager, his personality or his coaching style. It was just the way I felt, and I did have an agreement with Brian Little,''
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Subject: Manchester United are being linked with Everton fullback Michael Ball. United to play Ball? «« Manchester United are being linked with a move for young Everton fullback Michael Ball. The England under 21 international has impressed since breaking into the Toffee's first team but Alex Ferguson could face a battle with Arsenal. Ball, 19, would be seen as an ideal replacement for Nigel Winterburn as Arsene Wenger begins to think about overhauling his ageing defence.
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Subject: Share Offer Rejection "Meeting" outside BSkyB's offices Monday 12.00 Whitworth St West There will be a Share Offer Rejection "Meeting" outside BSkyB's offices on Monday at 12.00 noon in Whitworth St West. There is some dispute abot the number but it's either 35 - 37 or 43 - 47 Whitworth St. West in central Manchester. I can't find them in the phone book so I can't check this now - however I know others on the lists have the correct info so please post it here. You'll be able find it anyway - they'll be a group of reprobates gathered round an upturned Sky satellite dish on legs! Now what use could that be put too? The meeting is a press photo opportunity to push home the message that you do not have to sell your shares. The offer document states only 3 options are open to you - all of these entail giving up your shares. It is very important that all shareholders understand they can reject the offer and keep their shares by just ignoring it. You could of course put the freepost envelope to good use if there is any message or anything you wish to send back to them - within the law of course. Anyone who has a share offer document from BSkyB who wishes to register their feelings should turn up with it. Even if you don't have one, many have been handed in already for this ceremony so if you want to help or just get your mug in the papers / TV get yourself down there. Duncan Duncan Drasdo (These are my own opinions - I am not an official spokesperson for IMUSA) IMUSA - Independent Manchester United Supporters Association - opposes the BSkyB takeover of MUFC IMUSA website - www.imusa.org IMUSA discussion mailing list To subscribe, send a message to imusa-subscribe@egroups.com or go to the home page at http://www.eGroups.com/list/imusa or www.imusa.org Virtual Manchester -www.manchester.com - sign the email petition Try this if you need a laugh: http://www.urban75.com/Punch/murdoch.html
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Subject: UNITED OPPOSITION STARTS TO GROW For information: copied without permission from the Sunday Independent 11 October 1998 UNITED OPPOSITION STARTS TO GROW A broad front against Edwards' expansionist plans is emerging. by Tim Collings Manchester united and the media have always danced happily together. But not any more. rupert Murdoch's takeover bid and the club's possible move to join Media Partners' planned European Football League threaten to turn the Theatre of Dreams into a venue for the worst of futuristic footballing nightmares. Just picture it: a club with few traditional loyal supporters regularly playing over-exposed foreign rivals in an empty stadium for the benefit of pay-per-view armchair viewers with no allegience to the history, passion or traditions of United. That, in part at least, is the bleak vision according both to United shareholders and fans working to block BSkyB's £623m bid and also many Premiership clubs, who are growing tired of the United boardroom's perceived disdainful arrogance towards them. As the latest chapters in what now threatens to become an epic tale of ambition, chicanery, greed and sheer folly unfolded in Lisbon and London last week, it was the Football Association who made the most decisive move by urging the Office of Fair Trading to block the Murdoch bid. The FA's letter, revealed by chairman Keith Wiseman the day after UEFA announced their plans for a revamped 32 club Champions' League next year, was oone of the 350 submissions by the OFT who have extended, until 2 November, their deadline for their review of the case. Then they will report their findings to Peter Mandelson, the Secretary of Sate at the Department of Trade and Industry. "I can't understand it all," Wiseman said, "Football and television have been getting closer. But you cannot see these media organisations acting in the interests of the game. That is our job at the FA. "They are there to make money. I think Manchester United are nothing without the clubs they play against. The strength of other clubs has to be kept to a reasonable level. If Manchester united beat everyone 10-0 every weekend, it wouldn't be long before nobody turned out to watch." The FA blow was well-aimed. Encouraged by it, the Shareholders United Against Murdoch group followed up with another designed to delay the bid's progress further. All this at a time when the club's chairman Martin Edwards was again being closely linked with the Media Partners' proposals, supported by Real Madrid and, it is understood, possibly five other leading European clubs. No sooner had Media Partners' president Rodolfo Hecht said on Thursday that he expected "both Manchester United and Arsenal to be back in our project very soon" than SUAM were claiming on Friday that BSkyB's offer docum,ent was incomprehensible, misleading and in need of an overhaul under instruction from the Takeover Panel. "Many shareholders were misled into thinking they had only three options - all of which involved selling their shares to BSKYB," said SUAM's spokesman, Professor Jonathan Michie. "Shareholders have evry right to keep their shares in Manchester United and there is no reason at all why they should hand the club over to BSkyB." BSkyB dismissed the criticisms. "All these publications are goverenedf by strict rules which we have to comply," said the spokesman. "There is no suggestion that we have not. It is a document offering to buy something - someone's shares. That is the whole basis of it." United stretched on all fronts from Murdoch to Munich, have every reason to ask for a breather. But they are unlikely to get one until all is finally resolved by Mandelson and the next meeting of the UEFA task force scheduled for Jerusalem on 10 December. This last will see European football's governing body finally reveal their hand on detailed income proposals to the biggest clubs in the new Champions' League. If they pale against those on offer from Milan, United could follow Ajax, Bayern Munich and the rest into the 21st century techno-league. The worst possible scenario from a traditionalis'a point of view, could see United taken over 100 percent by Murdoch's BSkyB (a 90 percent takeover, the least of SUAM's ambitions, would allow 10 percent of rebel shareholders to retain some nuisance value), then buy the best players available and seek to win the inaugural EFL in 2000-01. In the best possible scenario, from the same viewpoint, SUAM will drag the takeover out to the point at which it fails to go through and United stay in the Premiership instead of asa Sheffield Wednesday's secretary Graham Mackrell put it, "ending up playing Bayern Munich and Co every other week". Many Premiership clubs preferred not to comment on the record when asked if United's latest moves had put them beyond the pale, but Mackrell was forthright and provocative. "I think the takeover will go through, but it will leave the club facing a very delicate situation when it comes to negotiations that relate to television. A fine line will have to be drawn between the plc ownership and the club's interests," he said. "And don't forget, their representative will sit down with those of 19 other clubs. There will have to be some clarification."
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Subject: Sir Matt Busby "Reminders Of A Great Man" League Champions 1964-65 http://www.red11.org/mufc/images/player/team64.jpg (Signed) http://www.red11.org/mufc/busby.htm Sir Matt Poem by Ethan Fry Back in the days, when we were just another side, and victory was just a daunting task Sir Matt came to us, beaming with pride, and gave us more than we could ask. But on a snowy strip in Munich, many hearts were broken, and we were reluctantly shot back in to the past. Sir Matt, Sir Matt, you're a hero to us all, You always knew what winning really meant; Sir Matt, Sir Matt, you're a hero to us all, Sorrow was the mood here when you went. And on the Wembley ground, in 1968, you raised the cup with great delight; Just ten years prior, your hopes were dashed, forced to realise the horrid, ultimate plight. Sir Matt, Sir Matt, you're a hero to us all, You'll always be a red to us and them; Sir Matt, Sir Matt, you're a hero to us all, We'll play in your defence, just tell us when. __________________ The story by Pete Hargreaves http://www.personal.u-net.com/~cheswem/united~1.htm The Busby Babes http://www.red11.org/mufc/flower.htm http://www.red11.org/mufc/munich.htm http://www.red11.org/mufc/muw.htm In Memory of Munich,6th February 1958 The Flowers of Manchester One cold and bitter Thursday in Munich, Germany, Eight great football stalwarts conceded victory. Eight men will never play again, who met destruction there, The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester. Matt Busby's boys were flying, returning from Belgrade, This great United family all masters of their trade. The pilot of the aircraft, the skipper Captain Thain, Three times they tried to take off and twice turned back again. The third time down the runway disaster followed close, There was slush upon that runway and the aircraft never rose. It ploughed into the marshy ground, it broke, it overturned. And eight of that team were killed when the blazing wreckage burned. Roger Byrne and Tommy Taylor, who were capped for England's side, And Ireland's Billy Whelan and England's Geoff Bent died. Mark Jones and Eddie Coleman and David Pegg also, They all lost their lives as it ploughed on through the snow. Big Duncan he went too, with an injury to his brain, And Ireland's brave Jack Blanchflower will never play again. The great Matt Busby lay there, the father of this team, Three long months passed by before he saw his team again. The trainer, coach and secretary and a member of the crew, Eight great sporting journalists who with United flew, And one of them was Big Swifty who we will ne'er forget, The finest English 'keeper that ever graced a net. Oh England's finest football team it's record truly great, It's proud successes mocked by a cruel turn of fate. Eight men will never play again who met destruction there, The flowers of English football, the flowers of Manchester. MUFC Hon. Executive CP Cheah Webmasters: Barry Leeming & Bill McArthur Graphics: Sam Hayward Stats: Paul Hinson Site Design Diana Low Webmaster Mail: barry@www.red11.org Url: http://www.red11.org World of Manchester United Football Club.
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Subject: Manchester United goalie to miss upcoming Switzerland match Copyright © 1998 Nando Media COPENHAGEN (Oct 10, 1998 - 23:14 EDT) - Manchester United goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel, who missed Denmark's 2-1 Euro 2000 qualifying home defeat by Wales on Saturday, will also sit out Wednesday's clash with Switzerland in Zurich. Schmeichel aggravated a stomach muscle injury suffered in the summer during United's Champions' League match in Munich last month and he said he expected to be out of action for at least another week. "I'm still not better and I doubt very much if I'll be able to play with my club next weekend," he told Danish television. Mogens Krogh of Brondby replaced Schmeichel for the Wales match where the Danes, the 1992 European champions, were sunk by a late goal from Craig Bellamy, who came on as sub in the 69th minute. Soren Frederiksen had put the Danes in front on 57 minutes but Adrian Williams scored almost straight from the restart and the Danes, who could only draw with Belarus in their first match, never recovered. Before the match, former Denmark and Liverpool star Jan Molby slammed the national team as the worst Danish side in 25 years, a comment that outraged Schmeichel. Wales' win, which could save under-fire coach Bobby Gould, was its first on their travels in a competitive match since a 1985 World Cup qualifier against Scotland "It was a magnificent performance," said a proud Gould afterward. "We believed there was a victory there for the taking and the commitment and pride the players showed was all I could have asked for." "They were all heroes."
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Subject: England look to Beckham for salvation By Robert Woodward LONDON, Oct 11 - After a depressing 0-0 draw with Bulgaria devoid of invention, England will welcome back their World Cup pariah David Beckham with open arms for Wednesday's European championship qualifier against Luxembourg. Bulgaria's nine-man defence snuffed out England's much- vaunted strike pair Alan Shearer and Michael Owen on Saturday and a midfield packed with attacking players buzzed ineffectually for 90 minutes trying to find a way through. Despite having possession for 75 percent of the game, England did not manage one shot on goal in the second half and were booed off at the end by the 73,000 Wembley crowd. "We are not happy with the way we performed and we don't want to play like that again," said Hoddle, calling it the worst performance at Wembley in his 26 games in charge. The draw increased the pressure on Hoddle who has been heavily criticised for off-field activities, including his reliance on a faith-healer, since England's World Cup defeat by Argentina. After their 2-1 defeat by Sweden, England have only one point from two games, like Bulgaria, and Hoddle is already watering down his qualification hopes. Poland have six points, after their 3-0 win on Saturday, from two games and Sweden three from one. "Two points have slipped by. We've still got time and we still feel we can qualify either as winners or second," Hoddle said. England need to find a midfield general and a cutting edge up front before the game in Luxembourg, where a hatful of goals would improve morale and their chances of making it to the finals in Belgium and the Netherlands. "Their defence got the better of us and we must look at whether it was due to lack of movement or poor passing," said Shearer. "Sometimes you have to say 'well done' to the opposition because they cancelled us out." Midfielder Beckham missed the Bulgarian and Sweden games through suspension after being sent off against Argentina, a dismissal which turned him into a hate figure overnight in England, but his passing ability was sorely missed down the right at Wembley. "Our main problem was midfield, we never really won the ball and we were very slow in our build-up," Hoddle said. "We waited for things to happen rather than make them happen." England channelled everything down the left through Graeme Le Saux and Sol Campbell, but Shearer and Owen were followed every step of the way by Rossen Kirilov and Ivailo Yordanov and the final ball was almost always delivered too late. With Paul Ince also missing aftr being sent off against Sweden, there was no player with the natural ability or arrogance to drop a shoulder and attack the Bulgarian defence head-on. Beckham has both qualities, and should be given his head against Luxembourg, but Hoddle may well decide to do the unthinkable and drop Owen for Teddy Sheringham as the Owen/ Shearer partnership is yet to gel. For Bulgaria, one point was what they came for after the humiliating 3-0 home defeat by Poland which triggered the sacking of Hristo Bonev. Successor Dimitar Dimitrov revamped the team and was rewarded with a whole-hearted performance. "Even though we had a lot of young and new players they showed lots of character and I'm very pleased with them," Dimitrov said. "We tried to close the defensive gaps, our tactic was to neutralise Shearer and Owen. I expected a little more pressure in our half but our players approached the game very well tactically." While Bulgaria's defence was superb, their attack looked lightweight despite the efforts of hefty striker Marian Hristov and the skills of ageing captain Hristo Stoichkov. Home fans will expect more thrust in the home game against Sweden on Wednesday. A smiling Dimitrov offered Hoddle his best wishes for the future. "England are a fantastic team. They have a long time to correct their bad results and they can qualify."
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Subject: BECKHAM RETURN WILL LIFT THE DOOM AND GLOOM Gary Neville believes the return of David Beckham can help lift the doom and gloom surrounding Glenn Hoddle and England after the woeful goalless draw with Bulgaria and the defeat by Sweden in the opening qualifier; the two games the World Cup villain has missed. Neville admitted that England had 'let the nation down' with their performance against the side that had been walloped 3-0 at home by Poland in their opening group match. But he's confident that Hoddle's wounded army can rally in Luxembourg on Wednesday. And he feels Manchester United colleague Beckham is the man to provide the creativity in midfield and the chances for Alan Shearer and Michael Owen that were patently lacking against Bulgaria and Sweden. Beckham knows he owes England something special after his red card against Argentine in France and Neville says: ''It's up to Glenn Hoddle whether David plays but he is a quality player and having him available for selection puts the manager in a stronger position. "David will be itching to be involved after missing the last two games and he'll be keen to get out there and create chances, perhaps take the odd one himself and generally impose his quality on the game." England coach Hoddle, meanwhile, has told Beckham he has 'nothing to prove' when he returns from suspension this week. But that advice only applies to his footballing ability. When it comes to his temperament, Hoddle still has some nagging doubts. Beckham's red card for kicking out at Argentina's Diego Simeone saw the 23-year-old widely condemned for his fit of temper as England went out of the competition on penalties and only an unblemished performance in Luxembourg will keep the critics from the door; for now. Hoddle has paid careful attention to how Beckham has coped with the pressures on him since his return from France and has been impressed with his performances and his attitude. But the coach is forced to admit that a question mark remains over Beckham's self-discipline on the pitch. ''He hasn't got to prove anything to anybody in terms of his performances,'' Hoddle said. ''What he has to prove maybe is if that situation (against Argentina) happened again, he's learned from it and he doesn't react in the same way. That's all he's got to prove - nothing about his performances, they've been spot on. I would say 95% of the time (this season), I've seen him cope with a lot of situations that in the past could have flared up. He's learning very quickly. ''He's a determined character, and you have to channel that in the right way. He's trying to do that. All the young Manchester United players get stuck in and as long as it's channelled right, which David's is at the moment, that's when you have a good modern day midfield player. ''He's a talented lad. If we can guide him in the right way, and he can learn from his adversity then he's going to get better and better.'' TEAM TOTALS ENGLAND v BULGARIA Shot on Target 1 2 Shot off Target 7 1 Blocked Shot 1 1 England (0) 0 Bulgaria (0) 0 England: Seaman, Neville**, Hinchcliffe (Le Saux 35), Lee, Campbell, Southgate, Anderton (Batty 67), Redknapp, Shearer, Owen, Scholes** (Sheringham 76**) Subs Not Used: Keown, Martyn, Butt, Wright Booked: Anderton, Redknapp Bulgaria: Zdravkov, Kichichev, Zagorchich, Naidenov, Jordanov, Iankov, Kirilov, Stoichkov (Batchev 60), Hristov (G Ivanov 90), Petkov, Iliev (Gruev 63) Subs Not Used: Ivankov, Trendapilov, V Ivanov Booked: Kichichev Att: 72,974 Ref: Laszlo Vagner (Hungary)
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