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Date: Mon/Tue Jul 06/07 07:44:12 GMT+00:00 1998
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Draw for the preliminary rounds for the Champions League:
First round: 22/7 and 29/7
Second round: 12/8 and 26/8
LKS Lodz, Polen - Kapaz, Azerbadjan
(winner meets MANCHESTER UNITED)
MANCHESTER UNITED CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 1998:
Preliminary round August 12th (home) & 26th (away)
Champions league September 16 & 30,
October21, November 4 & 25, December 9.
Sir Bobby Shocked: Charlton in bad books 32 years on
Wednesday, July 1, 1998
Sir Bobby Charlton has discovered that he did receive a booking during
his England career - though he didn't know it at the time.
Sir Bobby always believed he had won 106 caps, scoring a record 49
goals, without so much as a caution. But FIFA have revealed that he
and brother Jack were booked during the infamous 1966 World Cup
quarter-final against Argentina at Wembley.
German referee Rudolf Kreitlein could not speak English and such was
the confusion as the match disintegrated into a running battle that
neither Charlton realised he had been booked.
Sir Bobby, cautioned once during his League career - for preventing a
free-kick being taken quickly - discovered the news during FIFA
research into the match last year.
FIFA's communications director Keith Cooper said: 'I think Bobby was
trying to play peacemaker and his intervention was misunderstood.'
FOOTNOTE from Mike Dobbin:
I find it mystifying that FIFA have just "discovered" that Bobby Charlton was
booked in the 1966 World Cup game against Argentina. The official Football
Association book "World Cup Report 1966", published by Heinemann, contains as
an appendix the decisions of the FIFA disciplinary committee, in which it is
quite clearly stated with reference to that match that "Cautions to Robert
Charlton and John Charlton (England) were confirmed". This book has been
sitting on my bookshelf for over 30 years, and I would happily have allowed
FIFA, the FA, or Bobby Charlton access to it since none of them seem to have
retained their own record of this event!
Mike Dobbin
MESSAGE FROM: "Sam" our graphics man at Simplenet:
DAVID BECKHAM "CAPTIONS" PLEASE?
I am going to get a black T-shirt done to support David Beckham.
UK tv poll asked "should he be forgiven" the result was
28,000 people called 60% yes 40% no
We need "SUPPORT DAVID BECKHAM"
Please send them to SAM'S guestbook at
http://www.crack.force9.co.uk/guestbook.html
and Sam will use the most original for the t-shirt.
This Issue:
1. PALLISTER MOVING BACK TO BORO (Sporting Life)
2. Dennis Viollet
3. Beckham Articles (football 365)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:16:34 +0200
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Subject: PALLISTER MOVING BACK TO BORO (Sporting Life)
PALLISTER MOVING BACK TO BORO
Manchester United defender Gary Pallister will rejoin Middlesbrough this
week in a deal worth around £2million.
And Boro boss Bryan Robson is also set to sign Crystal Palace full-back
Dean Gordon for £900,000.
Pallister, 33, will take over at the heart of defence from Nigel Pearson,
who left Boro at the end of last season, after nine years of success at Old
Trafford following his £2.3million move from Middlesbrough in 1989.
Former Old Trafford skipper Robson is convinced that Pallister will be an
asset on his return to the North-East.
Robson said: "People talk of his injury problems but Pallister missed only
five United games last season through injury.
"I know all about his drive and commitment. As a former Boro player, he
knows what the fans will expect from him.
"Middlesbrough have reached cup finals over the past two seasons but we
want to win trophies and qualify for Europe.
"Pallister has tremendous experience and will relish the challenge. I need
competition at the heart of defence."
Robson will stiffen his defence following promotion back to the Premiership
by also buying 25-year-old Gordon from Palace.
The former England under-21 international full-back, who Robson nearly
bought for £2million four years ago, is expected to sign at the Riverside
this week following a medical.
"Gordon is strong and powerful with Premier League experience," said
Robson. "In the top flight we need strength in depth and Gordon will
provide competition as a central defender and a full-back."
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Subject: Dennis Viollet
To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
While I was over in the US recently I had the pleasure of meeting Dennis
and Helen Viollet.
I had arranged the meeting through Helen and had originally planned to meet
in an English pub that Dennis wanted to visit near St Augustine, but had to
re-arrange because was at physiotherapy that morning. Helen then asked us
to come over to the house in Jacksonville so Karen, myself and the two kids
arrived about an hour before Dennis was brought back.
Helen was at pains to point out Dennis' condition but also said he was
making progress but we were to make allowances.
Dennis arrived in his wheelchair, brought in by John who always takes him
to physio - nice bloke. He was greeted by Gina who immediately gave him a
hug and a kiss. She's a little Red is Gina and one day will know the
significance of that hug.
Dennis finds it difficult to react to anything on his left side so we sat
to his right and chatted about the days before Munich. He says that things
were never the same after the crash. He loved the club but the family he
had known were gone. It had devastated everyone who was left and they found
it difficult to cope because so many friends had died.
He didn't want to leave United but one day, right out of the blue Tony
Waddington rang him from Stoke City and introduced himself as his new
manager. Dennis was devastated and felt let down by Sir Matt and it is no
coincidence that United paid Torino a record fee that summer for Dennis
Law. They had needed to sell in order to buy - nothing changes then!
He had five great years at Stoke and enjoyed every moment. Helen didn't
know him when he was at United so is very affectionate towards Stoke.
I asked helen about the Testimonial game and apparently the money which has
so far been paid in for tickets is held by the Prefessional Footballers
Association and is gaining interest along the way, but Dennis is aware that
the fans have paid this money and he doesn't want them to pay for
everything. He would like the club to give all their profits for the game
and associated souvenirs over to the fund. Let's hope he gets his wish.
They have reservations about how long it may take for the money to actually
get through to the people concerned because now that there seems to be a
pot of money becoming available everyone wants some. Helen said that even
Captain Thain's brother is expecting his cut.
Having talked with Helen I am aware that they are facing huge medical
expenses and I get the impression that it is by no means easy so let's hope
they realise a fair proportion of money raised because they deserve a
break.
Dennis has poor short term memory, but remembers things from long ago with
relative ease although he tired quite quickly. His tumour seems to have
developed from an injury he received in the crash. When Harry Gregg pulled
him out of the wreckage he had a gaping wound over his right ear and this
is where the tumour resulted and is why he has problems with his left side.
It all started last year. Just before the European Cup Final reunion he had
had a couple of dizzy spells and moments of deja-vu and had been very busy
with his coaching in Jacksonville. He was in two minds whether to go to
Munich but was eventually persuaded to go. When they were on their way back
he disappeared in the airport and didn't know where he was. He was rushed
home and into hospital and you know the rest.
The thing that struck me about Dennis was that he may look different
facially because of the operation, but his body is still the same as I
remember when he played for United. His forearms were still as strong and
you could imagine him gliding gracefully over the pitch and hitting a low
shot into the corner of the net past the goalkeeper's despairing dive.
There was one story that amused him greatly while we were there, it was
about our son Alex and his eating habits. That very morning Alex had
managed to consume a gross amount of donuts for breakfast. We had stayed in
a hotel which had been the one pre-booked night of our trip. Helen had
arranged it as they were friends with the manager. It was more up market
than we were used to and therefore offered more choice than the usual
coffee, donuts or toast for breakfast, and more variety of donuts into the
bargain. Alex had decided he would try each variety in turn and ended up
eating six, so he says - I think it was five, but who cares, he still
pushed donut eating into the realms of belly-aching piggery! This brought a
knowing smile to Dennis's face.
So we left the house after half an hour and as I shook his hand I wished
him good luck and he wished us a safe journey and asked us to return.
Dennis may never be able to walk unaided again and certainly won't be able
to play football but he is still a United legend and it was one of the
greatest thrills of my life to spend time in his company and I hope the
pleasure will be repeated.
I have lodged a jpeg with Barry for his site, it isn't a photo taken whilst
we were there but a signed photo of Dennis as he would prefer to be
remembered.
Copyright Paul Windridge 1998
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From: Robert Gaunt
Subject: 2 Beckham Articles (football 365)
To: MUFC@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
FERGUSON: 'ENOUGH IS ENOUGH'
United Boss Pleads For An End
To Beckham Hate Campaign
MANCHESTER UNITED manager Alex Ferguson has fired back at the snipers
who have made David Beckham public enemy number one following his
sending-off against Argentina. The 23-year-old midfielder has been
made the scapegoat for England's World Cup exit after being dismissed
early in the second half for his retaliatory kick at Diego Simeone.
Despite pleas from England coach Glenn Hoddle for the player not to be
targeted by Premiership crowds, he can expect stick wherever he goes.
Ferguson feels Beckham ''could hardly have been more vilified if he
had committed murder or high treason,'' adding, ''you would think he
was guilty of a greater crime against the country than Lord Haw-Haw.''
So concerned is the United boss for his star's safety that former SAS
soldier Ned Kelly has been put on round-the-clock protection duties.
Beckham will be unable to make a single move without his new shadow
until Kelly and the club are sure the fans' fury has quietened down.
Kelly became famous as Eric Cantona's bodyguard after the Frenchman's
kung-fu kick at a Crystal Palace fan and is well used to dealing with
public anger, although Ferguson is convinced such spite would not have
been directed Beckham's way if he had not been such a high-profile
celebrity.
''What David did was foolish and unprofessional,'' admitted the Old
Trafford chief. ''He has to live with the damage his action did to
England's chances of reaching the quarter-finals. But I was sickened
by much of the cruel nonsense produced last week. There was a
vindictiveness in many of the comments that made it obvious he was
paying yet again for being more of a celebrity than any other
footballer in Britain. If David Batty had committed precisely the same
foul, with the same results, there would never have been such a
feeding frenzy.''
United are known to have thought about pulling Beckham out of their
early Premiership games - their first away match is at West Ham of all
places - in order to spare him the jeers of opposition fans, and even
the possibility of a physical attack. Ferguson has promised his young
star he will receive help when he reports back for training later this
month, but says that he must learn from what happened.
"We have made it clear to him that he has to deal with his problem,"
he said. "I have tried to ram it home to him that it's a physical game
where players of talent will always be singled out for a hard time. I
have told him that the only way to get back at opponents who do that
is by showing he is better with the ball than they are. But, in the
heat of the contest, he doesn't always keep control.''
Speaking in The Sunday Times, Ferguson added: ''He can rely on a lot
more help with getting over his depression when he reports for
training on July 13.''
However, if the pressure gets too much for Beckham, the Scot has
privately admitted that he may have to sell the midfielder to a
foreign club, even though he has publicly said that "Manchester United
will not give in to mob rule. We look after all our players at Old
Trafford."
IT'S OUR DUTY
TO TAUNT HIM
By Philip Cornwall
IT'S OUR DUTY TO TAUNT HIM
GLENN HODDLE, Gareth Southgate, Alex Ferguson, Chris Eubank - they
have all called for crowds to lay off David Beckham when he takes to
the field for Manchester United next season. Yet surely that is the
last thing we should do.
Beckham was sent off because he was unable to deal with provocation.
Fouled by Simeone, he'd heard the whistle go, he knew he was getting
the free-kick. His team had got as much out of the situation as
possible. Yet he was too temperamental, too self-centred, to think of
the good of the team. All he thought about was himself. Just as Paul
Gascoigne's tears in Turin in 1990 were over his own booking, so
Beckham's tantrum was about his own all-too-easily-bruised ego.
Gascoigne never grew up. Beckham must.
Hoddle pointed out the midfielder's instability after the Tournoi last
year. Yet Beckham's persistent petulance over the last year has
brought no condemnation from his club boss. Indeed, Ferguson regularly
criticised opposing supporters for taunting him. Yet clearly, we did
not taunt him enough. Had Beckham, week in, week out been subjected to
the kind of abuse that surely awaits him next season, then he would
have been hardened against it. He has admitted that it was actually
the patronising attention of Simeone after the foul, rather than the
tackle itself, which caused him to retaliate.
Now, if we assist him, Beckham can emerge from this affair a stronger,
maturer player. It is our patriotic duty to give him hell verbally
next season. Relentlessly.
Of course, we need to demonstrate some imagination. There is no point
in just booing him all the time. He will soon get used to that. So,
sometimes we need a slow hand clap. On other occasions, whistles. Or
deadly silence - not a murmur from the home crowd when he is
possession. If he scores a consolation goal for United, say to make it
3-1, then just carry on chanting "3-0, 3-0," making it clear that
Beckham is a non-person, his strike a non-goal. When he can cope with
all this, and not run whinging to his manager or agent, or Italy, then
we will know that he is up to wearing the Three Lions once more.
Beckham, like Gascoigne before him, is the most talented midfielder we
have. He is also the dumbest. But he is only 23. With our help, he can
learn.
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