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Date: Fri Dec 04 00:02:20 GMT+00:00 1998
Mail: barry@www.red11.org
This Issue:
1. GINOLA JOY FOR GEORGE
2. Bad News - Kiddo's Leaving
3. LATE STRIKE SPELLS DISASTER FOR JUVE - AND BAD NEWS FOR UNITED
4. Brian Kidd factfile
5. Another brick out of the wall
6. Soccer showcase-Villa seek memorable summit meeting with United
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Daily RED Trivia Fri 4th December:
4/12/1959: Paul McGrath born in Ealing, London. A tall commanding defender, McGrath
made his initial outing against Tottenham Hotspur in November 1982, and won an FA
Cup Winners medal in 1985. He made 198 appearances and scored 16 goals between
1982-89. 83 caps for the Republic of Ireland, and played in the World Cup Finals of
1990 and 1994. McGrath cost Aston Villa £450,000 in August 1989, and was
voted PFA Player of the Year in 1993, winning a League Cup winners medal
against United in 1994.
1991: United beat Oldham Athletic 2-0 at Old Trafford in the League Cup 4th
Round watched by 38,550. Brian McClair and Andrei Kanchelskis scored the
goals. Team was: Schmeichel, Parker, Irwin, Bruce, Webb, Pallister, Robson
(Ince), Kanchelskis, McClair, Hughes, Giggs (Blackmore).
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Barry Daily Comment:
A sad day as a long serving member of our team leaves the club.
I'm sure you all join me in wishing Brian all the very best in the future.
On the bright side? Could Choccy come back??
Remaining 1998 games:
ALL Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
Sat 5/12 Aston Villa (A) PL 15.00
Wed 9/12 Bayern Munich (H) CL 19.45
Sat 12/12 Tottenham (A) PL 15.00
Wed 16/12 Chelsea (H) PL sky sports time 20.00
Sat 19/12 Middlesbrough (H) PL 15.00
Sat 26/12 Nottm Forest (H) PL 15.00
Tue 29/12 Chelsea (A) PL sky sports time 19.45 UK
UNITED Stats v Aston Villa:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vsastonvilla.htm
*** TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
03/10/98 Southampton Away W 3-0 2 15,251
17/10/98 Wimbledon Home W 5-1 2 55,265
24/10/98 Derby County Away D 1-1 2 30,867
31/10/98 Everton Away W 4-1 2 40,079
08/11/98 Newcastle United Home D 0-0 3 55,174
14/11/98 Blackburn Rovers Home W 3-2 2 55,198
21/11/98 Sheffield Wednesday Away L 1-3 2 39,475
29/11/98 Leeds Home W 3-2 2 55,172
Prem Table 29/11:
Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Aston Villa 14 8 5 1 22 12 10 29
2 Manchester United 14 8 4 2 30 16 14 28
3 West Ham United 15 7 5 3 20 16 4 26
4 Arsenal 15 6 7 2 15 7 8 25
5 Chelsea 13 6 6 1 22 13 9 24
6 Leeds United 15 5 8 2 22 14 8 23
7 Middlesbrough 15 5 8 2 24 17 7 23
8 Liverpool 15 6 4 5 26 19 7 22
9 Derby County 15 5 6 4 15 14 1 21
10 Wimbledon 15 5 5 5 19 25 -6 20
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Champions League:
Group D P W D L F A Pts
Bayern Munich 5 3 1 1 8 5 10
Man United 5 2 3 0 19 10 9
Barcelona 5 1 2 32 9 9 5
Brondby 5 1 0 4 4 16 3
Sep 16 Brøndby 2-1 Bayern München
Sep 16 Man Utd 3-3 Barcelona
Sep 30 Barcelona 2-0 Brøndby
Sep 30 Bayern Munich 2-2 Man Utd
Oct 21 Brøndby 2-6 Man Utd
Oct 21 Bayern Munich 1-0 Barcelona
Nov 4 Barcelona 1-2 Bayern Munich
Nov 4 Man Utd 5-0 Brøndby
Nov 25 Barcelona 3-3 Man Utd
Nov 25 Bayern Munich 2-0 Brøndby
to play.....
Dec 9 Brøndby v Barcelona
Dec 9 Man Utd v Bayern Munich
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Subject: GINOLA JOY FOR GEORGE
TOTTENHAM 3 MANCHESTER UNITED 1
David Ginola capped a fine display with an
outstanding goal, his first of the season, as
Tottenham overcame a weakened Manchester
United side to reach the Worthington Cup
Semi-Finals. George Graham's side now face
Wimbledon across two legs, and must be favourites
to lift the trophy and qualify for Europe.
Chris Armstrong struck twice in seven minutes at
the start of the second half to put Spurs ahead. The
in-form striker scored with a pair of brilliant
headers. Although Teddy Sheringham pulled Alex
Ferguson's patch-work team of youth and
experience back into the match with another
powerful header with 20 minutes left - a goal he
celebrated with a defiant fist-clenching gesture to
the Tottenham fans who had jeered his every touch
- it was not enough to deny Graham's team.
Because with four minutes to go the mercurial
Ginola struck a sweet left-foot 25-yarder past
Raimond van der Gouw to clinch it.
The first period was disappointing, but the game
came to life after the interval. Allan Nielsen had
missed two decent first-half opportunities to turn
the tie Spurs' way but two minutes after the break
he chipped into the box from out on the left. Ruel
Fox, who had replaced Colin Calderwood in
midfield, helped the ball on for Armstrong to head
firmly past Van Der Gouw for his seventh goal of
the season and third in consecutive games.
United had an immediate chance to equalise when
Nicky Butt's pass found Phil Neville, whose shot was
only a yard wide of the target with goalkeeper Ian
Walker beaten. But in the 54th minute Armstrong
came up trumps again with his head. This time
Ginola teased and tormented Jon Greening out on
the left and whipped the ball over waist-high for
Armstrong to dive in front ahead of Ronny Johnsen
and defeat Van Der Gouw again.
The contest looked over but it could have been
different if Butt, put in by Greening, had not wasted
a golden opportunity in the 65th minute,
half-volleying wastefully over the bar. And Iversen
spurned the chance to wrap it up completely for
Spurs, stabbing wide from three yards after
Ginola's cross took out Johnsen and Henning Berg.
Tottenham were briefly on the back foot when
Sheringham converted Neville's left wing cross with
a decisive 70th minute header but then Ginola came
up with the finishing touch which boss Graham had
demanded he add to his silky skills and Spurs were
on their way to the last four. Ryan Giggs backed off
as the Frenchman picked up the ball 30 yards out.
Ginola stepped into the space and smacked a
wicked curling shot to confirm his
man-of-the-match status.

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Subject: Bad News - Kiddo's Leaving
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KIDD TAKES OVER AS BLACKBURN BOSS
By David Anderson, PA Sport
Brian Kidd has decided to succeed Roy Hodgson as manager of Premiership
strugglers Blackburn.
Kidd agreed to sign a contract that runs until June 2002 after holding talks
with Rovers owner Jack Walker at Ewood Park today.
He has been Alex Ferguson's number two at Old Trafford for seven years but
has now decided to strike out on his own.
Hodgson was dismissed in the wake of Blackburn's home defeat against
Southampton, which sent Rovers to the bottom of the Premiership.
© PA Sporting Life
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Kidd wants to be his own man
Brian Kidd is set to leave Manchester United and
become Blackburn's new boss because he wants to
manage his own Premiership club.
Kidd has been Alex Ferguson's right-hand man for
over seven years at Old Trafford, but United chief
executive Martin Edwards admits he wants to go it
alone.
United are desperate to keep Kidd and Edwards
claims his departure would be a big blow to the club.
United have reluctantly agreed to let Kidd speak to
Blackburn and he was due to have talks later today.
Edwards said: "He wants to progress his career and
he wants to have the chance of being a number one.
"He wants that opportunity to speak to them and so
reluctantly we have agreed to that.
"We have accepted the fact that he may want to
leave and Blackburn have been very good.
"They have been on to us and they have done it the
right way."
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Brian Kidd joins Blackburn as new manager
MANCHESTER, England, Dec 3 - Manchester United's assistant
manager Brian Kidd has joined English premier league side
Blackburn Rovers as
manager, Blackburn chairman Jack Walker said on Thursday.
Kidd, 49, will be introduced to Blackburn fans at Saturday's
league match against
Charlton. "I'm delighted Brian has decided to join is. He was
always our first
choice," Walker said.
Kidd, 49, played for Manchester United, Arsenal, Everton and
Bolton in a 15-year
career and has been part of Alex Ferguson's successful
management team at
Manchester United.
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Kidd says 'yes' to Rovers ««
Brian Kidd has accepted the offer to become the new manager of
Blackburn Rovers.
Kidd has signed a contract with Rovers until June 30 2002 and
will be paraded before the Ewood Park faithful prior to
Saturday's match with Charlton Athletic.
Rovers owner Jack Walker said of the appointment: "I'm
delighted Brian has chosen to join us - he was always our first
choice."
United now face the task of appointing a successor to Kidd, with
many names - including that of Brian McClair - already been
thrown into the ring.
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Subject: Brian Kidd factfile
MANCHESTER, England, Dec 3 - The following is a factfile on
Brian Kidd, who was appointed manager of English premier league club Blackburn
Rovers on Thursday.
Born: Manchester, May 29, 1949
Career:
1966 - Joined Manchester United as apprentice professional.
1967 - August 12 - Aged 18, made United debut in 3-3 draw with Tottenham Hotspur
in Charity Shield. One week later made league debut for United in 3-1 away defeat
at Everton, a club he later joined.
1968 - May 29 - On his 19th birthday scores Manchester United's third goal
in their 4-1 win over Benfica in the European Cup Final at Wembley Stadium
1974 - After total of 264 matches and 70 goals for United, joins Arsenal
for 110,000 pounds.
1976 - July -- Returned to Manchester, signing for City in 110,000 pounds
deal.
1979 - March -- Left City for Everton where he became one of the few
players to complete a rare trio of playing in a Manchester derby, a North London derby
and a Merseyside derby.
1980 - May -- After scoring 12 goals for Everton in 40 league matches,
joined Bolton scoring 14 goals in 43 league appearances before moving to the United
States in 1981.
1985 - Began managerial career as player-manager of non-league Barrow before
joining Preston as assistant manager.
1985 - December -- Appointed Preston manager
1986 - March -- Resigned as Preston manager
1989 - Returned to Manchester United as a coach
1991 - Appointed assistant manager by Alex Ferguson
1998 - Dec 3 -- Named as Blackburn Rovers manager
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BREAKING NEWS - Friday 04 December 1998
KIDD TAKES BLACKBURN JOB
Brian Kidd has decided to succeed Roy
Hodgson as manager of Premiership
strugglers Blackburn.
Kidd agreed to sign a contract that
runs until June 2002 after holding
talks with Rovers owner Jack Walker
at Ewood Park. He has been Alex
Ferguson's number two at Old Trafford
for seven years but has now decided
to strike out on his own.
Hodgson was dismissed in the wake of
Blackburn's home defeat against
Southampton, which sent Rovers to the
bottom of the Premiership. Blackburn
officials were locked in top level
negotiations with Kidd before Walker
emerged to say: "Brian was always our
first choice, and I am delighted he
has accepted."
Kidd will take a back seat for this
weekend's vital Premiership match at
home to Charlton, with caretaker boss
Tony Parkes remaining in charge.
A statement from Blackburn read:
"Following successful discussions
Brian Kidd has accepted the position
as manager here and has signed a
contract to June 30 2002."
Parkes will prepare the players and
select the side for the Charlton
match. Kidd will be introduced to the
crowd by Walker before the game.
United were desperate to keep Kidd
and only reluctantly agreed to let
him talk to Blackburn.
Now United must search for a new
number two to Ferguson with
Saturday's top-of-the-table clash
with Aston Villa and next Wednesday's
crucial Champions' League clash with
Bayern Munich looming large.
United chief executive Martin Edwards
admitted that Kidd's departure would
be a big blow to the club.
Only last week Edwards claimed the
only way Kidd would leave United
would be "over my dead body".
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Subject: LATE STRIKE SPELLS DISASTER FOR JUVE - AND BAD NEWS FOR UNITED
GALATASARAY 1 JUVENTUS 1
A DRAMATIC last-gasp goal from Suat Kaya dented
Manchester United's Champions League hopes -
and put last year's runners-up, Juventus, all but out
of the competition.
The Turkish side's late strike will be a
disappointment to Manchester United, who must
now win their last game at home to Bayern Munich
next week to guarantee a place in the last eight. A
win for Juventus would have meant Alex
Ferguson's men only needed to draw with the
Germans at Old Trafford to qualify as one of the
best runners-up - barring a mathematical miracle.
Galatasaray 5 2 2 1 8 7 8
Rosenborg 5 2 2 1 7 6 8
Juventus 5 0 5 0 5 5 5 ("I'll give it foive")
Ath Bilbao 5 0 3 2 4 6 3

"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"
Subject: Brian Kidd factfile
MANCHESTER, England, Dec 3 - The following is a factfile on
Brian Kidd, who was appointed manager of English premier league club Blackburn
Rovers on Thursday.
Born: Manchester, May 29, 1949
Career:
1966 - Joined Manchester United as apprentice professional.
1967 - August 12 - Aged 18, made United debut in 3-3 draw with Tottenham Hotspur
in Charity Shield. One week later made league debut for United in 3-1 away defeat
at Everton, a club he later joined.
1968 - May 29 - On his 19th birthday scores Manchester United's third goal in their
4-1 win over Benfica in the European Cup Final at Wembley Stadium
1974 - After total of 264 matches and 70 goals for United, joins Arsenal for 110,000
pounds.
1976 - July -- Returned to Manchester, signing for City in 110,000 pounds deal.
1979 - March -- Left City for Everton where he became one of the few players to
complete a rare trio of playing in a Manchester derby, a North London derby and a
Merseyside derby.
1980 - May -- After scoring 12 goals for Everton in 40 league matches, joined Bolton
scoring 14 goals in 43 league appearances before moving to the United States in
1981.
1985 - Began managerial career as player-manager of non-league Barrow before
joining Preston as assistant manager.
1985 - December -- Appointed Preston manager
1986 - March -- Resigned as Preston manager
1989 - Returned to Manchester United as a coach
1991 - Appointed assistant manager by Alex Ferguson
1998 - Dec 3 -- Named as Blackburn Rovers manager

"Peter Schmeichel's last season at OT" Click on image for more!"
From: Steve Edge
Subject: Another brick out of the wall
I am very sad that Kiddo has left us. He was a great Manchester United
player and coach. A Red through and through. Now he's gone. Money lured him
away. Good luck to him, though. Perhaps he will be back. (perhaps he'll do
a Steve Coppell when he realises what a crap club he's joined!)
This season has been very traumatic so far. We are still faced with the
appalling prospect of becoming a pawn in Murdoch's money game. Schmikes is
leaving us at the end of the season. Our European prospects continue to
teeter on the edge of calamity. We've been stuffed twice by the Arse. The
pitch has been ripped up and replaced by a new patchwork quilt. Injuries
continue to plague the club - thankfully, we have a bit more cover this
season. Becks is still pilloried. Stam is getting a lot more stick than he
deserves. Cole, too. We don't have a replacement for either Schmikes or
Kiddo. And Spurs are after Ole once more. It's time to circle the wagons
again.
So, where is the Bright Side of Life? Or should I say the Dwight side? (I
think there's a song in there ... !!)
Well, we're still in contention for a European Cup Quarter Final spot (it's
in our hands). We're handily placed in the league. We don't have to worry
about the Fizzy Beer Cup any more. Giggs, Johnsen and Sheringham appear to
be on the mend. We're playing quite well. Yorke is amazing! The prospects
are still good, it seems.
But it just doesn't feel right, does it? Perhaps Fergie's empire is
starting to crumble.
Steve Edge
Vancouver Red

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Subject: Soccer showcase-Villa seek memorable summit meeting with United
By Chris Moore
BIRMINGHAM, England, Dec 3 - Aston Villa and Manchester
United, currently first and second in the premier league, are two of the giants of
English soccer but have little in the way of traditional rivalry.
They have both won the European Cup, and both won the still rarely-achieved
English League and Cup double, as well, at different times, holding the record
number of wins in the F.A. Cup.
Villa had already won the league five times and the F.A. Cup four, including the
double in 1897, before United lifted their first piece of silverware in 1908.
Villa won the league again in 1910, and after being pipped by United by a point in
1911, had to wait another 70 years for their seventh title, in 1981.
Manchester United, meanwhile developed into Enland's most famous club, and went
on to overhaul Villa's old record of seven F.A. Cup victories, which has since also
been overtaken by Tottenham Hotspur.
During nearly a century of competing however, both clubs have concentrated their
rivalries elsewhere.
United fans scan the fixture list -- or used to -- for the derby with cross-town rivals
Manchester City and for the games against Liverpool.
Villa have been starved of local rivalry since the demise of Birmingham City and
West Bromwich Albion and have had to satisfy local pride by beating Coventry and
Leicester.
However, there are still one or two games between Villa and United that go down as
classics.
One came on January 10, 1948, in the third round of the F.A. Cup.
Villa went ahead after 13 seconds -- still the fastest ever F.A. Cup goal -- but by
halftime trailed 5-1.
A second half fightback brought them back into the match at back to 5-4 but United
scored again to win 6-4. They went on to win the Cup that year, beating first division
opponents in every round -- an achievement that has never been equalled.
Villa gained a measure of revenge in 1957 when they beat United 2-1 in the F.A.
Cup final -- ruining United's hopes of becoming the first club to do the double since
Villa in the previous century.
In the 1964-65 season United thrashed the Midlanders 7-0 at Old Trafford and the
following year walloped them 6-1.
A year later United won the league and went on to their greatest triumph, the
European Cup, in 1968.
Villa went the other way, suffering relegation in 1967 and slipping into the old third
division in 1970.
The two finally met again in the 1974-75 season after travelling in opposite directions
to the second division and both won promotion.
Villa then set about their climb to the pinacle of Europe, winning the championship
in 1981 and emulating United's 1968 European Cup success by winning the trophy
themselves in 1982.
United, finally, emerged as the dominant club in England in the 1990s but Villa
denied Alex Ferguson the chance of an historic treble in 1994 when they won the
League Cup final 3-1 at Wembley - under former United boss Ron Atkinson.
Villa lifted that trophy again two years as United won the League and F.A. Cup
double for a second time.
Now Villa are back in contention for the league title and know that Saturday's game
will go some way towards proving their credentials.
Defeat to Liverpool and a draw with Nottingham Forest have sharpened the pens of
the critics and allowed second-placed United to close to within a point.
But should Villa pull off the victory on Saturday, and go on to win the championship,
then this fixture may finally earn an historical significance -- at least on the Holte
End.

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