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Date: Thurs Oct 1st GMT+00:00 1998
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This Issue:
1. Bayern and United draw 2-2 in emotional encounter
2. Match Report from Munchen Bayern Munich v Manchester United 2-2
3. SCHMEICHEL LETS IN BAYERN
4. Late strike denies United
5. Munich - United TV report
6. news KIDD'S WORLD LEAGUE VISION
7. NEW! Soccer Boards
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Daily RED Trivia Thurs 1st October:
1892: Billy Hood made his debut at West Bromwich Albion. A versatile player,
Hood scored twice in his first appearance in the Football Alliance, a 10-1 win
against Lincoln City in November 1891. He made 38 appearances between 1892-94,
scoring 6 goals.
1997: United beat Juventus 3-2 at Old Trafford in a Champions League game
watched by 53,429. Teddy Sheringham, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs scored for
the Reds. Team was: Schmeichel, G.Neville, Irwin, Berg, Johnsen, Pallister,
Beckham, Butt (Scholes), Solskjaer (P.Neville),Sheringham, Giggs.
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Next 4 games:
Result/Fixture Index:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/fix9899z.htm
Sat 3/10 Southampton (A) PL
Sat 17/10 Wimbledon (H) PL
Wed 21/10 Brondby (A) CL
Sat 24/10 Derby (A) PL
UNITED Stats v Southampton are here:
http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/vssouthampton.htm
*** PL TEAM RESULTS - MANCHESTER UNITED ***
Date Opposition Score Pos. Attend.
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15/08/98 Leicester City Home D 2-2 11 55,052
22/08/98 West Ham United Away D 0-0 11 26,039
09/09/98 Charlton Athletic Home W 4-1 9 55,147
12/09/98 Coventry City Home W 2-0 5 55,193
20/09/98 Arsenal Away L 0-3 10 38,142
24/09/98 Liverpool Home W 2-0 3 55,181
*** RESULTS AND ATTENDANCES ON 28/09/98 ***
West Ham United 1-0 Southampton 23,153
*** CONDENSED LEAGUE TABLE AS AT 28/09/98 ***
Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
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1 Aston Villa 7 5 2 0 8 1 7 17
2 Derby County 7 3 3 1 6 3 3 12
3 West Ham United 7 3 3 1 7 5 2 12
4 Wimbledon 7 3 3 1 11 9 2 12
5 Newcastle United 7 3 2 2 13 7 6 11
6 Leeds United 7 2 5 0 8 4 4 11
7 Manchester United 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11
8 Chelsea 6 3 2 1 10 7 3 11
9 Liverpool 7 3 2 2 12 9 3 11
10 Arsenal 7 2 4 1 6 3 3 10
11 Sheffield Wednesday 7 3 0 4 8 5 3 9
12 Middlesbrough 7 2 3 2 8 8 0 9
13 Tottenham Hotspur 7 2 2 3 8 14 -6 8
14 Charlton Athletic 7 1 4 2 11 10 1 7
15 Everton 7 1 4 2 4 5 -1 7
16 Nottingham Forest 7 2 1 4 5 9 -4 7
17 Leicester City 7 1 3 3 6 8 -2 6
18 Blackburn Rovers 7 1 2 4 5 10 -5 5
19 Coventry City 7 1 2 4 4 12 -8 5
20 Southampton 7 0 1 6 3 18 -15 1
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Subject: Bayern and United draw 2-2 in emotional encounter
MUNICH, Sept 30 - A late goal by Brazilian striker Giovane Elber
allowed Bayern Munich to snatch a 2-2 draw at home to Manchester United in their
Champions' League group D match on Wednesday.
A minute's silence was observed before kickoff in tribute to the eight United players
and 15 others who died in 1958 in Munich when the plane carrying the team home
from a European quarter-final against Red Star Belgrade crashed on take-off after
refuelling.
United were heading for a win when Elber, who had already scored his side's
opening goal, struck from close range in the dying seconds.
Elber put Bayern in front in the 11th minute, beating United 'keeper Peter
Schmeichel after a clever combination between Croatian midfielder Hasan
Salihamidzic and striker Carsten Jancker.
The vistors levelled on the half hour when David Beckham exploited a blunder by
Lothar Matthaeus and hit a cross for Dwight Yorke to head home.
Another mistake by a shaky Matthaeus allowed Yorke to feed Paul Scholes who
gave United a 2-1 lead from inside the penalty area in the 49th minute.
United and Bayern, two of Europe's top clubs, have jointly played over 450 matches
in continental club competitions but had never met each other until Wednesday.
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Thursday 01 October 1998
Subject: SCHMEICHEL LETS IN BAYERN
Peter Schmeichel produced an uncharacteristic blunder in the final
minute to deny Manchester United all three priceless Champions' League
points against Bayern Munich in the Olympic Stadium.
United goalkeeper Schmeichel came for and missed Bixente Lizarazu's
throw-in from the left and Brazilian Giovane Elber nodded in for his
second goal of the night, although Teddy Sheringham appeared t
o get the final touch, allowing the game to end 2-2.
Victory would have put United in a commanding position in Group D - the
so-called 'Group of Death' - but now Barcelona are setting the pace after
a 2-0 win against Brondby. The Bundesliga side have scored an
incredible 14 goals in their three home games this season and after 11
minutes they increased that tally to 15 against the run of play.
United's pressure was rewarded with an equaliser on 29 minutes with a
goal created by Beckham.
United, who had opened their campaign with a 3-3 draw at home to Barcelona,
stunned Bayern when Paul Scholes put them ahead in the 48th minute.
Then came the equaliser with just six seconds of normal time left - yet
there was still time for Sheringham to almost snatch a winner for United
when his header was well saved.
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Subject: Late strike denies United
David Lacey in Munich sees Elber snatch a vital point for
Champions League: Bayern Munich 2 - 2 Manchester United
Thursday October 1, 1998
An exceptional goal from Paul Scholes punished some
muddled defending as Manchester United recovered bravely
from conceding an early goal in the Olympic Stadium. But the
lead that United staunchly defended for almost all the second
half vanished in the 90th minute when Bayern's striker Giovane
Elber equalised with his second goal of the night.
The United goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel made a hash of a
long throw-in from Bixente Lizarazu on the left and the
Brazilian was at the far post to force the ball in. Then, just to
add to the drama, in the dying seconds Teddy Sheringham had
a point-blank header superbly saved by Oliver Kahn.
Dwight Yorke had headed United level on the half-hour in a
match not notable for efficient covering by either team.
Alex Ferguson's decision to recall Sheringham as an attacking
partner for Yorke was partly motivated by a desire for
flexibility up front but was also prompted by an awareness of
Bayern's strength in the air at free-kicks and corners.
Sheringham was an extra counter to the threat of Stefan
Effenberg and Carsten Jancker.
From the start Jaap Stam found himself looking up to Jancker,
who towered above everybody, although the German striker's
first meaningful touch was a quick pass which sent Elber
dashing at the United cover.
An early break on the left by Jesper Blomqvist, playing instead
of the injured Ryan Giggs, suggested that United would not be
reluctant to spread their wings. But within 10 minutes Bayern
had seized the initiative by practically walking through the
United defence to score.
A 40-yard pass from Effenberg found Elber in space on the
left but with plenty of defenders barring the way to goal. Then,
as the ball was fed in to Hasan Salihamidzic, United froze and
allowed the Bosnian to touch a pass to Jancker who then
turned to give Elber, now in front of goal, the simplest of
chances.
Four minutes later Sheringham rose well to meet David
Beckham's free-kick and head the ball just wide of the far
post. Bayern, however, had started to take a relaxed control
with Effenberg and Jens Jeremies pressing forward from
midfield to link up with the strikers.
But United refused to take a back seat. Midway through the
first half Beckham directed a corner from the right low to
Sheringham, waiting on the near side of the penalty area, and
his first-time shot was blocked by Lizarazu when for a moment
it looked like an equaliser.
United did not have to wait long for a goal. After 29 minutes
one of Sheringham's cleverly-angled cushioned passes found
Beckham clear and onside and from his centre, with the
Bayern defence completely exposed, the unmarked Yorke
headed the scores level.
Now it was the turn of Bayern to look a trifle wan. It was a
bad goal to give away as Beckham's headed interception of a
clearance by Lothar Matthaus had caught them moving upfield,
giving Sheringham time and space to set up Beckham for the
cross.
Matthaus, already on a yellow card in this tournament, had just
received another for bringing down Blomqvist. As a result the
former Germany captain will miss Bayern's next Champions
League game at home to Barcelona.
Sadly for United, though, Beckham will also be suspended for
their next match at home to Brondby. It was the familiar story
of rashness over reason. Beckham's foul on Effenberg was
gratuitous, his second card as foregone a conclusion as his first
had been for a similarly reckless tackle weeks ago in Lodz.
Yet Bayern looked distinctly more vulnerable at the back and
three minutes into the second half Scholes cracked open their
defence with a remarkable piece of individual strength and
persistence. Collecting the ball from Yorke's header, Scholes
simply brushed Matthaus and Markus Babbel aside as he
surged through the middle.
Kahn still blocked Scholes's path but failed to stop him despite
two attempts. Scholes then ran the ball over the line as Bayern
gawped.
Bayern Munich (3-4-3): Kahn; Babbel, Matthaus, Linke;
Strunz, Jeremies, Effenberg, Lizarazu; Elber, Jancker,
Salihamidzic.
Manchester United: Schmeichel; P Neville, Stam, G Neville,
Irwin; Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Blomqvist; Sheringham,
Yorke.
Referee: M Batta (France)
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From: Terry Dale
Subject: Munich - United TV report
At the end of this game everybody on the pitch appeared to be totally
pissed off with the result, and I suspect all the fans were as well.
Bayern needed to win this one whereas we should have won it. It was
Barcelona all over again.
The first surprise was the inclusion of Sherri and it turned out to be an
inspired choice. While not exactly dominating the game, he played his part
and put in quite a solid performance. Gazza and Stam were again very
effective partners at the back along with Phil and Dinnniz. In midfield,
Keane, Scholes and Becks all had good first-halfs. Dwight and Jesper were
patchy. Schmikes was outstanding for 89 minutes and 59 seconds.
We were playing in white again. Footballers are superstitious creatures
and I can imagine them thinking that these white shirts might be
spooked if we should lose yet another lead while wearing them. Bayern were
in their Gestapo uniforms as usual. Maybe I've been watching too many
World War 2 movies but those dark shirts with the red armband and football
logo look suspiciously like something Hermann Goering might have put on to
attend one of his Nazi rallies. But I digress.
Before the kick-off there was a minute's silence for the Munich victims of
'58, and it was pretty well observed by everyone, which is more than could
have been said if this game had been held at Elland Road in front of the
country's most shameless scum.
We had a good opening 10 minutes, passing the ball around nicely and
looking as if we were there to win, not just to scrape a draw. Just as I
was starting to feel a little more confident, Dwight lost possession
(not for the first or last time), the ball was swept down the field, and
in a series of three passes within our penalty area, all three of them
apparently offside, Bayern put the ball in the net against the run of
play. Two questions arise. Will that linesman's bank balance shortly be
boosted by lots of Deutschmarks, and how the hell could we have allowed
them to make three passes, offside or otherwise, in our own area? That old
Euro feeling ... another game to chase ... came flooding back.
We fought back well and didn't lose our composure. Sherri had a header and
shot blocked in quick succession, and then on 29 minutes Yorke headed in
the equalizer. Becks had made it by intercepting a pass from the poisonous
dwarf, Lothar Mattaeus, doing a neat one-two with Sherri, and then
crossing an inch-perfect ball for Yorke to make his major contribution of
the evening. We were certainly well worth the goal. Sadly, Becks was later
booked for what was, I think, his first foul of the game and so we'll be
missing his creativity for the Brondby game.
The last few minutes of the first half added ten years to my life. (The
last ten minutes of the second half added another ten. But the good news
is I must now be old enough to qualify for an old-age pension.)
Somehow, we managed to survive a series of corners and went in deservedly
on level terms. At that stage, it was impossible to say who would end up
winners. If we could keep the same momentum up front going and if Jaap
could continue to be as dominating as he was, a draw was the least we
could hope for.
The teams came out again to fine Manchester weather. It was pouring down,
but the Reds in the crowd were still in fine voice. You can't beat a good
downpour for cheering up a Mancunian. Scholes certainly thought so. Within
4 minutes of the re-start we were in front. A cross from Gazza (I think)
found Yorke's head and from there it fell to Scholes. There was a
suspicion of handball as he went past the defender but his determination
brought about the goal.
>From now on, it was white-knuckle time. I seemed to be counting the
minutes down one by one as Bayern started to press. Stam and Gazza were
brilliant. I wonder if Fergie will give this partnership a chance to
solidify even after Ronny recovers? While we looked fairly strong at the
back at this stage, we were losing it in midfield, and almost nonexistent
in attack. Dwight and Sherri were increasingly marginalised as Bayern took
charge. The introduction of Jordi for Blomqvist looked odd at the time but
Jordi once again did well showing determination and good dribbling skills.
What a shocker as Jesper went off: with wet hair he looks just like Glenda
Hoddle. Poor kid. Meanwhile, Dwight was looking decidely lightweight up
front and his collection and distribution of the ball were disappointing.
Still, he had scored one and had made the other so perhaps does not
deserve too much criticism.
For the last 20 minutes, Bayern had several gilt-edged chances but could
not put any away. Apart from the incompetence of Elber and his mates in
front of goal, Schmikes was another reason why we managed to keep them
out. On 84 minutes, after another certain Bayern goal had been fluffed, I
seriously considered leaving the room and coming back when it was all
over. Then, what we all thought was inevitable finally happened, but I
would never have suspected that Schmikes would be the cause. As we moved
into injury time, the ball was thrown into the area and Schmikes,
obviously feeling invincible with only seconds remaining, charged out to
punch the ball away. He came nowhere near the ball which landed, it seemed
to me, on Sherri's head and popped into the net. Elber claimed it, and
Sherri will probably be grateful for that.
Even after that, we still might have won it as their goalie made a good
save from Sherri's header in the 92nd minute.
Before the game, we all might have welcomed a draw. But having been so
close to all three points yet again, the result is as disappointing as the
Barca result. We should be at the top of the group with six points.
Instead, we trail in third place with just two points out of six, and we
still have the daunting task of visiting Barcelona. At this stage
Barca look the most likely group winners but let's hope we can turn that
around in the next two games against Brondby while Munich and Barcelona
draw both their games.
We ain't out of it yet, but the task hasn't got any easier either.
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Terry
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Subject: news KIDD'S WORLD LEAGUE VISION
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Wednesday 30 September 1998
Subject: KIDD'S WORLD LEAGUE VISION
Manchester United assistant manager Brian Kidd insists there will not be a
European Super League for the foreseeable future - but reckons a World
League could be set up before the end of the century.
Kidd came out in favour of a re-structuring of international club
competitions in an interview with Match of the Day magazine.
He said: "I don't think there will be a European Super League in my
lifetime. What you will get is a World club league, and that will come in
within two years."
He added: "Of course, the attraction of a Champions' League would be the
huge revenue and you can see the attraction - which fans wouldn't pay to
watch United take on the giants of Europe?
"Even pay-per-view is attractive if it's pitched right, but then so is
United v Arsenal, and those games have history behind them as well."
Kidd also offered his opinion on the long-running England and Eileen
Drewery saga.
"I'm a religious person, I go to church every week," he said. "But I'm not
going to ram it down people's throats. It's a private thing, an individual
belief.
"But that's how I've been brought up - there are more important things than
money, like playing well and having a good team spirit. Football's a team
game after all."
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